Honda GTP Integra World Championship - Season II Champion: NEPALII

  • Thread starter Müle
  • 972 comments
  • 37,406 views

Grand Finale: Nurb 24H or Spa?

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
RIP_Welsh_Don
Good racing out there today guys. Special mention to Wii for the win and an apology to Wardez for leaving him alone after my school boy error!! Then made an even more stupid error trying to work with Nepal, so eventful is an understatement! I just think I'm rubbish at running with someone as a team, I always seem to make silly mistakes :D

Sucks that Wardez got kicked, he had great pace and consistency. Good battle with Nastra, Bdub and Nepal at the end which was fun on worn tyres! :)
Click to expand...

Just finished the Corvette race. I'm not in good enough shape right now to run two of these back to back! :crazy:

I had a good start and the front pack was five or six cars strong. There was something stuck under my foot and I picked a stupid time to try and grab it, which resulted in me in the sand. I managed to recover from this decently and caught back up with some people. Unfortunately, I went in to the second last corner at the end of the back straight with too much speed due to drafting, caught some grass, and spun out. At this point I though my race was done for sure and I was pretty pissed at myself.

I hooked up with bdub after that during the first stint and we shared 5th and 6th place. He was super cool and a good partner for bump drafting. Nice work bdub.

After the first pit stop, bdub and I eventually caught GTP_Welsh, who was in 4th. The three of us battled it out for 4th for many, many laps. This was awesome fun, as we had a good balance of working as a team by bump drafting and battling each other for the position. I didn't think we would catch anyone so I was just enjoying the battle we were having. Our three way battle lasted well into the third stint. I was actually laughing out loud after the three of us had to dodge Jedi_Joe rejoining the track for the second time in our battle! I think we spit him both times, with some cars going high and others going low. It was a miracle that none of us hit him and it didn't slow us down too much. We must have exchanged position a dozen times before Welsh and I eventually pulled away from bdub.

I don't remember how Welsh and I got into 3rd and 4th place, but we did. Welsh was a VERY good teammate. He did something that I would like to point out: he switched places with me every few laps! This might seem like common sense when two people are trying to work together to catch a group in front of them but you might be surprised how often one car stays behind another car and pushes them along without ever attempting to take the lead for a while. It is very frustrating to bump draft with a car that only stays behind you and pushes you along on the straights, most likely with the aim of conserving their own tires while leaching off your draft. Welsh, on the other hand, switched places with about ever two laps. Thanks to our cooperation we caught up to second place, and had a blast doing it.

Amazingly, Welsh and I caught up to Nepalii on turn 5 or 6 of the final lap! Unfortunately, Welsh and I got tangled up in the excitement; contact was made and Welsh caught a bit of sand. Not sure who's fault it was (could have been mine). At the time I didn't feel I was at fault so I pressed on to close the remaining gap between me and Nepalii. About half way through the lap I was right on his tail. (Welsh wasn't too far back and I could see him gaining again in my mirror.) I planned to pass Nepalii on the back straight, so I carefully distanced myself behind him approaching the spoon curves to line him up for the pass. I took the spoon curves about as good as I could have and slingshot towards him. Due to some interesting blocking techniques, I wasn't able to make the pass on the straight and Welsh caught up to us. I took the inside through turn 15 at the end of the back straight and going into the casino triangle curves Nepalii and I were side-by-side. Somehow I squeaked through. Welsh was up my tail pipe as I crossed the line a hair ahead of Nepalii. If the finish line was a bit further ahead Welsh would have overtaken both of us for sure.

This race was a lot of fun. I was very rusty at the beginning and forgot that these races are more about consistency and not falling off the track then then laying down blistering laps. I'll try my best not to make any big errors next race. Sorry if my spin out caused any of you trouble (GV27 namely). Congratulations to WiiFreak on his first win of the season. I hope I can challenge him next race! Thanks to Mule for hosting the race and to everyone else for participating.

See you all next week.
 
Last edited:
Don't worry, Nastra, it's all well 👍 . That's part of racing anyway, and to be honest my pace was not that of a front-runner, so it didn't change that much the picture of my race!! Around 6 seconds only, I'd guess (because of the damage that lasts for a short while), and 6 seconds in such a long race would have been almost nothing anyway, on my positions.

But I would have loved to do some laps behind you, to learn and all that :D
 
My race started out about as poorly as it could have. I qualified 6th so I was thinking I had a chance to get away with the fast group, stay clean, and put in some solid laps. That all changed after the green flag waved. For whatever reason I clicked into second gear right away, and dogged like crazy off the line, so from the 6th spot, I went into the first corner in last place. From then on I just wanted to stay out of trouble and put in 34clean laps. After the first couple laps, I made my way up to 6th or 7th place, but the front runners were already + 15 on me. Then, coming around the back stretch, I saw Nas slowly getting going before the hairpin. This was what I needed!! I thought. A front runner(he does have that #1 for a reason :) It took him a lap or two to get around the pack that was just behind me, but after he did, we started working together and clicking off some fast laps. After Welsh joined our little duo, we really started clicking. Top 5 for me was a great result, only 29 seconds behind the leader, which was a huge improvement from last season, where I ended up being more than two minutes behind the leaders. Had a tough time in the slower corners though, my car just didnt turn as well after my tires had some laps on them.

I want to thank Nas and Welsh for a great race, it was a lot fun running with you guys.
 
Ok I just have to say this to Nastra. First of all, I didnt even take you out, I didnt even touch your car! You hit me on the chicane and took my place! So if you dont get a penalty for that, and I get a penalty for blocking(not dangerous blocking) something's wrong. Just saying. You got your 2nd place and you still threw me down to 4th. You must feel very happy dont you?

Edit: Not trying to start a war here, just trying to wake up some people.
 
Your post is perfectly suited for a nice PM between Nastra, Mule, and yourself. Don't know what the idea was posting it here because it only makes the series look bad. Try again please.
 
Unfortunately, you are right Wardez. Sorry wont happen again. It's just that what Nastra did isn't right. He pushed me aside on the last turn and nothing for him.
 
I'll fire up the replay and look at it again. It wasn't reported to me, so I didn't bother taking a good look at it. I'll take this as your appeal?
 
The reason why I didnt report it to you Mule is because it was something small, a little tap. Not a big deal, as with my blocking. I think both incidents arent worth of a penalty, but since I got one then Im bringing up the other incident. Last lap, S turn before the final straight. I respect your decisions, but I dont agree with all of them. We have different views and that's fine. 👍 So yes, it's my appeal. Oh and no hard feelings, not hating on anyone including Nastra. Just discussing that's all. :)
 
Well, honestly, it wasn't the block that was bad. Just the fact that you did it twice.
 
Mule i accept my warning what happened from my point of view was i missed my braking point and went off in the chicane i had full brakes on and knew i wasnt going to be able to stop fully and there for would have went back on the track unwillingly but i thought if pulled the hambrake to get my car more straight compaired the corner and GV27 and Syjones cars there would have been space to avoid me or hoped theyd be past by then it was all a blur really but i felt really bad that i caused a stupid accident that i just stayed half throttle down the straight to let GV27 past and keep Syjones infront. again really sorry i think that was my first incident ever.......
anyway roll on Nurburg GP/D :D
 
I didnt know blocks are reportable, man do I have a list! lol Maybe next time Ill report blocks done on me.
 
The rule is that you can only block intentionally once per lap or pit straight.
 
PM box cleared. Sorry about that.

Let's all just cool our jets. There is no need to litter the race thread with arguments. Once the matter has been reviewed and a decision has been made THEN we should discuss it as a group if we feel the decision impacts driving habits.

BlackIce90
I didnt know blocks are reportable, man do I have a list! lol Maybe next time Ill report blocks done on me.
Click to expand...

Blocking is allowed. See the GTPlanet OLR Rules & Guidelines for more info.

*****************************************
*********** BACK ON TOPIC ****************
*****************************************

Did anyone else notice that the draft is considerably less strong compared to last season? I know some people on the forums were saying 1.11 (or 1.12) dialed down the drafting strength but I wasn't sure if they were right until this race. I think having less draft makes our races more exciting. When the draft was stronger there was almost no way of pulling away from someone once they were in your draft, but now it is much easier to break the draft and lose them if they make a small mistake. This makes following much more intense than it was last season. It also better rewards the drivers who put the hours in each week getting their lap times down.
 
Last edited:
^ I still felt the draft was pretty damn strong, to be honest. I don't know if less strong compared to last season because I wasn't there so I can't compare, but... I felt I could stay for a while with people who were faster than me, thanks to draft, and I would find it hard to lose someone like syjones who was savind the tyres a bit, yet still being very close to me, even ahead of me at times!
 
Didn't notice a difference in draft at all in the four races I had this past weekend.
 
Nastradamus87
Blocking is allowed. See the GTPlanet OLR Rules & Guidelines for more info.
Click to expand...

Just to add a little balance here... blocking is not allowed. (10A of OLR)

Defensive driving is moving over once, taking a defensive line (either to the inside or outside). LEGAL

Blocking is moving over once and as soon as the attacking car moves to the opposite side to overtake, you move over a 2nd time causing the block. ILLEGAL

Please don't confuse blocking with defensive driving.


Now we can go back on topic...

Sorry I missed the race on Sunday but I won't be racing if the race starts at anything close to 10 pm BST. Hopefully with a qualifying deadline this week we will be able to start on time at 9 pm. Or is it that the room opens at 9 pm BST?
 
Aderrrm
Just to add a little balance here... blocking is not allowed. (10A of OLR)

Defensive driving is moving over once, taking a defensive line (either to the inside or outside). LEGAL

Blocking is moving over once and as soon as the attacking car moves to the opposite side to overtake, you move over a 2nd time causing the block. ILLEGAL

Please don't confuse blocking with defensive driving.

<Cut>
Click to expand...

Actually, you raise a good point. The following is from the OLR:

10: Defensive Driving:

A:
Leading cars have the right to choose their own line down a straight. They can change their racing line once while driving down a straight (Move from the outside line to the inside, or vice versa). As they approach the next corner, they can return to the racing line of their choice. However, they're not allowed to change their line when the behind driver is directly behind and changes his line to try and make a pass. If your movement causes an accident, you're responsible.

B:
Leading cars have the right to take their line of choice through corners. I.e. they may drive a defensive line around the inside of a corner to protect their position, thereby forcing an attacking driver to try to pass around the outside. This is not blocking and is part of normal racing etiquette. In fact, apart from the restrictions of rule 10:A, a leading driver can drive any line which they feel is the most inconvenient for any following car to try to pass them.

C:
Drivers that are about to get lapped have to make sure not to interfere with the lapping cars. Slow down on the straights on either side of the track or maintain the outside line during cornering. If for whatever reason you happen to be on the inside line when being overtaken, stay on the inside line until all drivers that were about to lap you have passed. You are not allowed to deliberately block the lapping cars.
Click to expand...


Does anyone care to interpret the part highlighted in red for me. It seems to say that even if the leading car has not made any changes in their racing line on a given straight they are not allowed to move over to block the following car if the following car pulls out from behind the leading cars draft to make a pass. Am I understanding this correctly?

Also, Wardez mentioned that you can only block intentionally once per lap or pit straight. On a track that has two straights, like Suzuka, does that mean you can change your racing line once on only one of the two straights per lap.

Blocking almost never happens in GTP races, so it is not an urgent issue to address, but I would still like to know the rule properly.

**************************************************
As for the qualifying deadline, I personally like to qualify on the day of the race because it can be hard to make time for GT5 on both Saturday and Sunday. I would qualify during the week but I just can't bring myself to qualify when there are hours of practice time still sitting on the table. If we aren't careful WiiFreak is going to run away with the championship. :scared:
 
Nastradamus87
Does anyone care to interpret the part highlighted in red for me. It seems to say that even if the leading car has not made any changes in their racing line on a given straight they are not allowed to move over to block the following car if the following car pulls out from behind the leading cars draft to make a pass. Am I understanding this correctly?

Also, Wardez mentioned that you can only block intentionally once per lap or pit straight. On a track that has two straights, like Suzuka, does that mean you can change your racing line once on only one of the two straights per lap.
Click to expand...

The bit in red for me is describing blocking. It's saying when the attacking car is directly behind the defending car and is about to take a different line (move out of the slipstream), the defending car can not move over to that same line.

It's basically saying the defending car can take a defensive line, as long as the car isn't directly behind you - you should take a defensive line in good time as the attacking car is approaching.

Seeing as Wardez is using the word 'block' I'm not sure what he's trying to say. It's more than okay to take a defensive line into every corner (although it's not really appropriate if you're not on the last lap, for example) as long as you're not making more than 2 moves across the track or taking such a line that the other car has to react to avoid you.

GV27
Races start at 10pm GMT+1, so that means 9pm BST, Aderrrm. :)
Click to expand...

GMT+1 is BST. So the race starts at 9pm BST. (Just read the OP again, room opens at 8:30pm BST, gridding starts at 8:55pm BST).
 
I mistook "BST" as "British Standard Time" and not "British Summer Time", so my mistake came from there!

I should have said "10pm in Spain, which means 9pm in the UK" instead... Wouldn't have made a fool out of myself!
 
A defensive line is basically a racing line that makes any other racing line inconvenient for other drivers. Normally the inside line is the best line because you can go through the turn faster then the outside line so if you take the inside line of a turn, your in a defensive racing line because the other driver is forced to take the outside line which wont allow him to pass so basically in a way you blocked him without being in his racing line which is legal.

Illegal blocking is when you are physically in his racing line and purposely becoming an obstacle for him/her. Think of it this way, a defensive block is like creating a detour for other drivers (making them take a longer way around which ultimately slows them down), and an illegal block is like creating a wall so they cant get where they need to go. So with defensive driving, the other drivers still have a chance at getting where they want to be but it reduces their chances greatly.

Hope this helps in understanding the difference.
 
Has anyone been putting some laps in at GP-D??? I ran a few this morning with paulmac. (Sorry about hijacking your room Paul haha) but I was running some laps in the mid 34's, felt there was room for improvement though.
 
I have a best lap which I think is improveable, too. I'm not satisfied with it because I think it's not really really fast. And I know that, after I exchange my soul for an improvement, the fast guys here will come and be 1.XXX seconds faster than me per lap. Can be depressing, sometimes.
 
GV27
I have a best lap which I think is improveable, too. I'm not satisfied with it because I think it's not really really fast. And I know that, after I exchange my soul for an improvement, the fast guys here will come and be 1.XXX seconds faster than me per lap. Can be depressing, sometimes.
Click to expand...

Don't feel too bad I can't go 5 laps after the green flag without coursing out.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

The359
TPC Karting Extravaganza 2024
Replies
4
Views
636
GOTMAXPOWER
GOTMAXPOWER
RacingGrandpa
MiTo Exhibition World Tour
Replies
15
Views
1K
The_Tullster
The_Tullster
Jimlaad43
Formula 1 MSC Cruises Gran Premio del Made in Italy E Dell'Emilia-Romagna 2024
2 3 4
Replies
94
Views
5K
toastet
toastet
P
*Special Event* ARL Super Formula '23 @ Tokyo South Counterclockwise
Replies
4
Views
2K
PApunk924
P
Pigems
Pop Up Daytona 250, Camaro ZL1, Heavy Boost, Heavy Slip, + Cautions, Tonight at 9pm EST
Replies
0
Views
634
Pigems
Pigems

Latest Posts

Back