How is Assetto Corsa to play?

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GT absolutely does NOT have the optimal default setting for the controller. The triggers or right stick are MILES ahead of the buttons for precision.

The triggers/button thing is another issue, I was talking about the joystick and its precision/optimisation for the steering sensitivity. GT5 was off mostly (understeer everywhere) But I think GT6 is so damn good in this regard, spot on.

Regardless of what drivers are available, I think you will find that almost all recent racing simulators are now made with at least a decent wheel as the users primary input device.

Try them with a wheel my friend, and I think you will see for yourself how the once loved GT just cannot meet the standards that are now being set by far superior games/sims.
I want to get a good wheel as soon as I have some money to spend. I want to get a wheel that will be compatible with PS3, PS4 and PC, I dont have a clue which one will be so.
 
I want to get a good wheel as soon as I have some money to spend. I want to get a wheel that will be compatible with PS3, PS4 and PC, I dont have a clue which one will be so.

Sounds like a good decision, NixxxoN. :)

Here are some relevant links regarding mostly Logitech wheels.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/will-the-logitech-wheel-work-on-ps4.275120/page-2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=124896335&postcount=107

And from the horses' mouths (regarding Thrustmaster wheels):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...55477061.47379.177715455589531&type=1&theater
http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=3&fid=15&pid=375&cid=15
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

Conclusion: Looks like your best bets are T300RS and T500RS.
 
Hey guys i've been playing this game for just a month now, it's just completely blew me away. Can't seem to go back to GT after playing this for quite a while, especially all the mods are starting to get in full swing. Thee only criticism i can make to AC is the clutch. Quite weird really when i know you can't really stall the car when driving manual :/
 
Hey guys i've been playing this game for just a month now, it's just completely blew me away. Can't seem to go back to GT after playing this for quite a while, especially all the mods are starting to get in full swing. Thee only criticism i can make to AC is the clutch. Quite weird really when i know you can't really stall the car when driving manual :/
Um, I think you mean you can't stall the car when driving an auto.
 
especially all the mods are starting to get in full swing

Tell me about it, I've got over 60 tracks already and loving all the country/mountain roads that are being made too. Same with the car and sound mods, and the fact you can easily mod the cars yourself to your heart's content in notepad (power and power curve, turbo lag, tyre width and radius, engine limiter, drivetrain swaps etc).
 
Um, I think you mean you can't stall the car when driving an auto.
Of course not. I use pro aids all the time. Yes it can stall but as far as i know the engine doesn't really cut off, there's no ignition button in the game. You can put the gear in first, release the clutch without giving it throttle, the engine will cut off but it set off anyway the moment you press the accel pedal. Same goes when drifting, pull the handbrake, lock the wheel, don't hold the clutch, nothing really happening. That's the only complain i have for AC, or is it just me? i have turned everything off, but it still do that.
 
Of course not. I use pro aids all the time. Yes it can stall but as far as i know the engine doesn't really cut off, there's no ignition button in the game. You can put the gear in first, release the clutch without giving it throttle, the engine will cut off but it set off anyway the moment you press the accel pedal. Same goes when drifting, pull the handbrake, lock the wheel, don't hold the clutch, nothing really happening. That's the only complain i have for AC, or is it just me? i have turned everything off, but it still do that.

Kunos previous sim, NKpro, was like this, you could stall the engine and you had to manually start it again, you could press a button on the keyboard or wheel, or you could move the cursor over the ignition switch or button in the 3d cockpit, press it and start the engine.
 
Call me lazy, I dont care. GT has the contollers with automatic optimal setup by default; so I dont understand why other games cant do the same. It's not the player's fault, we should not be forced to configure every little detail. I'm a player not a device input technician.
Because on pc not everyone has the same gamepad, so developers let the users doing it by themselves for their hardware.
Console is "turn on / play / turn off".
PC is "tweaks / test / more tweaks / more test / finally find settings that works great for you".
Two different worlds, they booth has pros and cons.
 
Of course not. I use pro aids all the time. Yes it can stall but as far as i know the engine doesn't really cut off, there's no ignition button in the game. You can put the gear in first, release the clutch without giving it throttle, the engine will cut off but it set off anyway the moment you press the accel pedal. Same goes when drifting, pull the handbrake, lock the wheel, don't hold the clutch, nothing really happening. That's the only complain i have for AC, or is it just me? i have turned everything off, but it still do that.
You know what. You are right, I have noticed that too.

You can cut the engine off, but then just accelarate with no clutch, and the car just takes off. Weird.
 
To be honest, I'm still struggling to enjoy AC even after adjusting my T500RS after @FishforRent given the tips. I do not have any real track experience or much car mechanics knowledge so I cannot say how much the physics of AC felt lifelike as some of you people like to call it.

AC's demand on PC specs is huge as well. You need something pretty powerful as my PC (Core i7 & Radeon 7750 w/2GB), is on medium low settings to just have consistent average 45fps gameplay which greatly affects the visual quality to a point where it's much worst that GT series on PS3. Don't get me wrong, AC graphics are stunning as I curiously tried to max everything out just for the sake of it. It's absolutely gorgeous just my graphics card couldn't sustain it when visuals are in motion. It's like less than 15fps. :lol:

Can someone provide feedback of AC v PCARS? And their thoughts whether to wait for PCARS instead of buying AC. And all the comparisons of these two sims as opposed to a real sim (AC) to a "simcade" (GT6)? :bowdown: :cheers:

First I agree that AC and PCARS är hardware hogs. It's also important to realize that you need a balance between CPU and GPU. It's also hard to judge if your framerate sucks unless we know more about the specifics. (Track, how many AI and settings). I've adjusted the gfx a little bit and it's rock solid most of the time (except starts) @ 60fps and looks better than GT6. The sound are a different thing, but that was expected. :)
I own a AMD 965 and a Radeon 290 and let me tell you, AC and CARS eats GPU cards for breakfast.

I have them both (AC & CARS) and they have different strengths and flaws.

GFX= CARS
Physics= sort of equal perhaps with an edge to AC. Very dependent on the car.
FFB and feedback = AC

CARS is droolworthy in the gfx department.
 
I have come over to the darkside and bought AC when I saw it on sale this weekend:D Exceptional really, most connected I've ever felt to a car or track with my G27. I've only got enough power to run 60fps in solo at fairly low settings but it's good enough for me at the moment just for the pure joy of driving.
 
I have come over to the darkside and bought AC when I saw it on sale this weekend:D Exceptional really, most connected I've ever felt to a car or track with my G27. I've only got enough power to run 60fps in solo at fairly low settings but it's good enough for me at the moment just for the pure joy of driving.
Welcome Johnny.

It is a great sim.

Do yourself a favor and download the Shelby Cobra and the Longford '67 track, they go hand in hand. I can lap that track in that car for hours on end.
 
I have come over to the darkside and bought AC when I saw it on sale this weekend:D Exceptional really, most connected I've ever felt to a car or track with my G27. I've only got enough power to run 60fps in solo at fairly low settings but it's good enough for me at the moment just for the pure joy of driving.

Good to finally see you over this side.

Once you've started downloading all the car and track mods, prepare to enter a time lapse where hours pass by like minutes. Don't make any plans in advance for the day when you boot the game up :sly: Give us a shout if you want help with finding some awesome mods, there's at least 50 decent tracks out there on the internet.

Then when you get bored of that, if that's even possible, your can start making you own mods.
 
I have come over to the darkside and bought AC when I saw it on sale this weekend:D Exceptional really, most connected I've ever felt to a car or track with my G27. I've only got enough power to run 60fps in solo at fairly low settings but it's good enough for me at the moment just for the pure joy of driving.
Welcome to AC! :)
Have you got that new (old) computer you were talking about? What are the specs?
 
missed the sale but that did not stop me from buying. Has been hours since i first started. great game. how do you check what frame rate ? i have more questions but will save for another time.
 
missed the sale but that did not stop me from buying. Has been hours since i first started. great game. how do you check what frame rate ? i have more questions but will save for another time.


When you are on the track, whether in a race, hotlap session or replay, move you mouse cursor to the right to display the list of in game apps. You see the button below the highlighted "onboard settings" one in the picture, which is a monitor that says 60fps, click on that to display your frame rate.

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missed the sale but that did not stop me from buying. Has been hours since i first started. great game. how do you check what frame rate ? i have more questions but will save for another time.

Fraps or Render Stats, also.

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Welcome to AC! :)
Have you got that new (old) computer you were talking about? What are the specs?
Thanks.

AMD A10-5800K APU 3.8ghz Quad Core
8 gigs ram
AMD Radeon HD7570 graphics card
 
The good news is that it probably won't cost you an arm and a leg to get a better experience. But for now just enjoy the most important aspect of AC, which is in your wheel. :)
 
That GPU is a real bottle neck. You'd only need to spend about $100-$120 to get a GPU with 3-4x the power. It would be the difference between running solo at 60fps/low settings to running 75fps at high settings with 20+ other cars on track.
I have a 7750 and barely running mid settings averaging 45-50fps. At $100-$120 range, which GC would you recommend that would run AC 75fps at high settings?
 
I have a 7750 and barely running mid settings averaging 45-50fps. At $100-$120 range, which GC would you recommend that would run AC 75fps at high settings?

For that price you can pick up something between an Nvidia 750Ti to an AMD HD7850. Newegg were selling some HD7850's for $120 but are out of stock. You can still pick up used ones on Amazon for $100, and they were one of the best overclocking cards out there as well as price/performance ratio, which is why I bought one some time back.

Essentially it's pretty much the same GPU as what's in the PS4 right now with most cards being able to overclock by 30-40% with ease (from 1.8Tf to 2.4Tf).
 
For that price you can pick up something between an Nvidia 750Ti to an AMD HD7850. Newegg were selling some HD7850's for $120 but are out of stock. You can still pick up used ones on Amazon for $100, and they were one of the best overclocking cards out there as well as price/performance ratio, which is why I bought one some time back.

Essentially it's pretty much the same GPU as what's in the PS4 right now with most cards being able to overclock by 30-40% with ease (from 1.8Tf to 2.4Tf).
That was my question, what card to buy. I was going to start from scratch at some point but if I can make significant gains at this point by adding better quality parts I'll do that. I'm completely computer illiterate though, I'll have to ask someone to install it for me most likely. I'm also going to be getting PCars and as I understand it the AMD cards are not quite as optimized as the NVidia so would it be best to stick to NVidia at this point? How do I know if my computer is upgradable? It's an HP Pavillion.

EDIT: If I already have an HD7570 I suppose that indicates the card is upgradable?
 
That was my question, what card to buy. I was going to start from scratch at some point but if I can make significant gains at this point by adding better quality parts I'll do that. I'm completely computer illiterate though, I'll have to ask someone to install it for me most likely. I'm also going to be getting PCars and as I understand it the AMD cards are not quite as optimized as the NVidia so would it be best to stick to NVidia at this point? How do I know if my computer is upgradable? It's an HP Pavillion.

EDIT: If I already have an HD7570 I suppose that indicates the card is upgradable?
I think you'll have to list the entire model name. Some manufacturers make their computers very upgradable and some don't. Not sure about HP, I don't have much experience with them. Yes, the 7570 is a discrete card so it can be upgraded.

I do believe most web stores that sell computers have the possibility to customize them, so that you yourself can select which components (from a list) you want inside your computer. That would be a good alternative (and not too pricey) if you don't want to build yourself. Either way I'm sure there are tons of people here that can help you build/select whatever you choose to do. You will not be left unattended. :)

nVidia vs. AMD: I honestly think you will be happy regardless of which one you choose. I have owned several of both, and the difference can seldom be seen on screen, it can in most cases just be measured. :) Some games favor Radeons and some GeForces. Not sure which is most optimized for AC and/or PCARS. Maybe we should start a benchmark thread over at the official AC forums.
 
I think you'll have to list the entire model name. Some manufacturers make their computers very upgradable and some don't. Not sure about HP, I don't have much experience with them. Yes, the 7570 is a discrete card so it can be upgraded.

I do believe most web stores that sell computers have the possibility to customize them, so that you yourself can select which components (from a list) you want inside your computer. That would be a good alternative (and not too pricey) if you don't want to build yourself. Either way I'm sure there are tons of people here that can help you build/select whatever you choose to do. You will not be left unattended. :)

nVidia vs. AMD: I honestly think you will be happy regardless of which one you choose. I have owned several of both, and the difference can seldom be seen on screen, it can in most cases just be measured. :) Some games favor Radeons and some GeForces. Not sure which is most optimized for AC and/or PCARS. Maybe we should start a benchmark thread over at the official AC forums.

Link to my computer specs. If I upgrade the graphics card at what point will the CPU become the bottleneck? Will I need a better power supply with a new card?
 
Link to my computer specs. If I upgrade the graphics card at what point will the CPU become the bottleneck? Will I need a better power supply with a new card?

Hi!

The biggest bottleneck with your PC is the PSU, according to HP link, it has a 300W PSU (it doesn't mention the wattage the 12v supports, which is the real important thing), which is pretty low, if you want to avoid problems or change the PSU you want a card that consumes 100W or less. Your CPU is also a bottleneck, I wouldn't recommend anything higher than a GTX760 or a R270 for a PC with that CPU. Considering your CPU and PSU bottlenecks IMO the best card for your PC is a Nvidia GTX750Ti it consumes max 60W (70W if it's OC) which is slightly higher than the HD7570 you currently have and it has 3/4 the power of a GTX760.
 
Agree with KingPing. And even a 750Ti is pushing it, with that PSU. Throw your specs into here: http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/PSUEngine2 (you have to select mini-atx even though you have uatx/micro-atx) and you will see it recommends minimum 278W. That doesn't leave a lot of headroom.

There aren't a lot of benchmarks out there for your CPU, but I found this one: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a10_5800k_review_apu,20.html. They're using a GTX580 here. As you can see your CPU is holding it back.

Short run:
Alt 1: Enjoy your computer for what it is and play AC with low settings.
Alt 2: Upgrade the graphics card (GPU). I am not sure how much more fps you will get in AC though, because of that limiting CPU. This system will be bottlenecked.

Long run:
Alt 1: (if you didn't upgrade the GPU): Buy a rig where you can select the components yourself, and have the web store build it for you. It should come with a warranty.
Alt 2: (if you upgraded the GPU): Build yourself. Buy new case, power supply, motherboard and CPU. Take the harddisk, GPU and memory out of your HP and put it into the new build.

There may be plenty other alternatives as well. :)
 
Agree with KingPing. And even a 750Ti is pushing it, with that PSU. Throw your specs into here: http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/PSUEngine2 (you have to select mini-atx even though you have uatx/micro-atx) and you will see it recommends minimum 278W. That doesn't leave a lot of headroom.

There aren't a lot of benchmarks out there for your CPU, but I found this one: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_a10_5800k_review_apu,20.html. They're using a GTX580 here. As you can see your CPU is holding it back.

Short run:
Alt 1: Enjoy your computer for what it is and play AC with low settings.
Alt 2: Upgrade the graphics card (GPU). I am not sure how much more fps you will get in AC though, because of that limiting CPU. This system will be bottlenecked.

Long run:
Alt 1: (if you didn't upgrade the GPU): Buy a rig where you can select the components yourself, and have the web store build it for you. It should come with a warranty.
Alt 2: (if you upgraded the GPU): Build yourself. Buy new case, power supply, motherboard and CPU. Take the harddisk, GPU and memory out of your HP and put it into the new build.

There may be plenty other alternatives as well. :)
What about a Short Run Alt 3: Upgrade the CPU to an i5, GPU to R9 270 or equivalent, better power supply and cooling, same tower, RAM, harddisk.
 
What about a Short Run Alt 3: Upgrade the CPU to an i5, GPU to R9 270 or equivalent, better power supply and cooling, same tower, RAM, harddisk.
To change the CPU it would require a new motherboard. So effectively you are buying a new CPU, new Motherboard, new Power Supply, new GPU, new RAM. In other words, a new system..

I don't recommend upgrading a Hewlett Packard motherboard, they don't always work with different graphics cards. I'd play as it is, save and then build a new machine from scratch.
 
What about a Short Run Alt 3: Upgrade the CPU to an i5, GPU to R9 270 or equivalent, better power supply and cooling, same tower, RAM, harddisk.

I would keep your PC as it is, add the GTX750Ti enjoy for a year, then buy a new PC. why?

Your PC with a GTX750Ti won't max out AC or pCARS, etc, but a R9 270 won't max them out either. I have a R280X and i can't, but i buy it long ago so i don't care. You will be buying a new PC that won't max the game out. If you wait 6 months or 1 year (obviously the more the better) for the same money you will buy twice the power or more.

Also i (i like all my PCs operational:D, i can't see PC parts unused:guilty:) would buy all new, and keep that HP as a backup/server/HTPC.

PS: when i said GTX750ti consumes 60W-70W max, that's it's absolute max consumption while running a burning app like furmark, under normal real usage it draw 10W-15W less, IMO your current PSU can perfectly deal with this.
 
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