How NASCAR Will Fare?

[Joel]

I know how you feel. To see such a over hyped product shoved down our throats on an channel that used to be about racing of all forms is really sad. And yeah I'm not going to lie. I'm going to take the COT for a spin on Monaco just to see how cumbersome it would be.

do you honestly give a 🤬 about ratings? What kind of racing gets the most ratings in the US? F1? JGTC? WRC? Nope. NASCAR does!

 

[Northstar]

When the personalities become more important than the racing what does that say about the racing? Personally I could care less what driver pisses off who. As long as the racing is good.

If you ever have watched a NASCAR race it obviously wasn't at a short track. Rivalries make the racing way better, driverw will push their cars harder if they are trying to pass someone they are rivals with.

 

[Demon Drone]

do you honestly give a 🤬 about ratings? What kind of racing gets the most ratings in the US? F1? JGTC? WRC? Nope. NASCAR does!

Well they don't get ratings from the other series because THEY NEVER SHOW THEM!!!

 

[Demon Drone]

If you ever have watched a NASCAR race it obviously wasn't at a short track. Rivalries make the racing way better, driverw will push their cars harder if they are trying to pass someone they are rivals with.

Like I said as long as the racing is better. But like another person said it seems so fake anymore. I've tried watching it I really have ever since Winston left. But I just can't. The announcers, the boring cars, and the bastardization of it. I'd rather watch V8 Supercar. I wish they'd show it again!

 

[Strittan]

I saw in another thread that you mentioned NASCAR 2003. Do you have that sim? If so you know exacly how PD should model the draft.

Yes I have it, and I love it! Daytona and Talladega would be my favorite tracks. Closer racing than restrictor plate racing in NR2003 doesn't excist. You and 41 other cars are just inches from each other at speeds of 190mph. It's just awesome. 👍

I really hope PD could make the NASCAR races in GT5 to feel similar to NR2003...

 

[regoon]

Don't the Ford GT and Z06 go over 205+ mph with draft?
I really hope with draft the stock cars go over 220+.

It would be a bummer to see a production/super car beat a race car around Daytona.

 

[Joel]

Well, the NASCAR Sprin Cup cars are restricted at Daytona, giving hem about the same power as the GT and Z06

 

[Peter]

Anyone has thought about the online leaderboards for NASCAR? How will this work out? There will just be the same lap time about 20 times until you go a thousand of a second more.

 

[corporatesteve]

Nascar will be a great addition to GT, it will increase sales for GT by its southern US popularity which in result will have more funding for polyphony for GT6....

 

[matski]

When the personalities become more important than the racing what does that say about the racing? Personally I could care less what driver pisses off who. As long as the racing is good.

I never said it was more important, and if you think the racing in F1 is good then I think you are wrong, the driving maybe top line, but it's still a procession.

Back on Topic:

I think NASCAR will fair well in GT5. If raced properly I think it will work well, but as somebody else above stated, if a road car can beat a race car, it just won't be right, they must get the physics right.. aero and tyres, and not allow driver aids!! Either way, it will look fantastic, and it can't be any worse than previous NASCAR games.

 

[Lucas]

Anyone has thought about the online leaderboards for NASCAR? How will this work out? There will just be the same lap time about 20 times until you go a thousand of a second more.

"If you can't do the same lap time twice in a row, it means nothing."

I would say yes to your question. I have been thinking that those thousands of a second make the difference between a good driver and a bad one. But what matters is consistency. That's what oval racing is all about, in my opinion that is

 

[FoolKiller]

Anyone has thought about the online leaderboards for NASCAR? How will this work out? There will just be the same lap time about 20 times until you go a thousand of a second more.

Probably similar to the single car leaderboards on Prologue for the Daytona Oval now.

 

[Tenacious D]

I'm a non-NASCAR fan. Yes, I think going in a circle turning left for three hours is kind of boring, and I miss the real Speed Channel. But racing it is much more fun. Just remember, you aren't going to be watching, but participating in it.

 

[Grand Prix]

I'm a non-NASCAR fan. Yes, I think going in a circle turning left for three hours is kind of boring, and I miss the real Speed Channel. But racing it is much more fun. Just remember, you aren't going to be watching, but participating in it.

I think that's true for all sports, especially video game versions, hehe. I'll definitely give it a go online. The more variety the better.

 

[Masi_23]

I just hope PD gets the physics right with these heavy cars. Would be really great if we could get a proper short track and a medium speedway.

Bristol
Lowe's
Daytona

That would be enough. Along with Twin Motegi, Sears Point, and Watkins Glen 👍

 

[JohnBM01]

As I've said in the past (and not to impose anything or show disrespect to anyone), but can you really trust a Japanese company to properly capture all the insanity and soul of NASCAR? Most people see NASCAR as a regional sport since it's big in the American Southeast and not much bigger in most other places. I would be more like... skeptical. The AI plays a big part in this as well as trying to translate NASCAR's insanity into Gran Turismo 5. I'm more skeptical. But then again, I won't be playing GT5 just to race the daylights out of NASCAR.

 

[Zuel]

but can you really trust a Japanese company to properly capture all the insanity and soul of NASCAR? Most people see NASCAR as a regional sport since it's big in the American Southeast and not much bigger in most other places. The AI plays a big part in this as well as trying to translate NASCAR's insanity into Gran Turismo 5.

You have a good point.

 

[EERS4YEARS]

First- NASCAR uses carburetors, PRO ATV's have far superior technology when it comes to engines, and they have had factory support for less than 10 years. Having safety technology is a must or guys will die, but my point is that NASCAR doesnt offer anything to Ford, or Chevy except brand exposure. This is one thing F1 (and every other race series) has on NASCAR. Thats my biggest problem with NASCAR.

And for the people saying open wheel guys arent good with these cars... did anyone mention Tony Stewart? If Juan Montoya was in a Hendrick car...

 

[Lucas]

But racing it is much more fun. Just remember, you aren't going to be watching, but participating in it.

I will give a step ahead and say "I get bored if I watch any kind of cars racing." I won't lie, the only moment I get excited is when watching cars crashing. It's just that I don't know who to support, and it kinda takes away the point, since it's more like rolling a dice, with nothing to win or to lose, since I'm not participating in the race, with each of the drivers being a different face of the dice... I may sound like an idiot to you. Then I am. But watching racing for me is boring. Participating is where the fun's at.

 

[WolfRacer543]

I'm a non-NASCAR fan. Yes, I think going in a circle turning left for three hours is kind of boring, and I miss the real Speed Channel. But racing it is much more fun. Just remember, you aren't going to be watching, but participating in it.

NASCAR is one thing I find more entertaining to watch than play

but my point is that NASCAR doesnt offer anything to Ford, or Chevy except brand exposure. This is one thing F1 (and every other race series) has on NASCAR. Thats my biggest problem with NASCAR.

What does F1 and other race series offer to their respective manufacturers other than exposure?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Just thought I would point out that I did a couple races at Daytona tonight, and cannot wait to take a stockcar around that track. I never really liked the EA NASCAR games, so having the physics and graphics from GT will be amazing for the NASCAR series.

 

[Dbo129]

For me personally NASCAR is a bad inclusion in the game, their isn't much skill required to drive around in circles and it's going to get extremely boring.

I beg to differ my friend. Driving at a high rate of speed on any race track takes skill and many hours of seat time. Driving any race car into a corner that physically wants to drive straight is a challenge at a high rate of speed. Turning left, knowing when to ease of the throttle/apply brake and wether you stomp the throttle or egg shell it and mind you the handling changes rapidly more so at some tracks with rough racing surfaces. Saying NASCAR takes no skill doesn't make sense. Watching NASCAR can get boring. It is what it is.

 

[Dbo129]

Thank God EA is not doing NASCAR anymore.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Who says that? I think everyone seems to forget that we wont get the whole NASCAR series in GT5...

 

[Dbo129]

True GT isn't going all out on a complete NASCAR game, however EA still isn't making NASCAR games anymore. I could only dream of a NASCAR game/sim that PD would produce.

 

[RACECAR]

And for the people saying open wheel guys arent good with these cars... did anyone mention Tony Stewart? If Juan Montoya was in a Hendrick car...

Who said open wheel guys weren't good? Drivers like Montoya are an example of how "easy" driving a stock car is as people continuely make unproven assumptions that Nascar requires no skill. The only reason Stewart is doing well is because he has had alot more seat time (like at least 13 years worth) while the other guys are on only on there 2nd or 3rd year.
Until you have had any seat time and any race car, you can't prove what requires no skill.

 

[2JZFAN]

I will still take what PD has to offer but I have no interest whatsoever in driving around in a CoT.. On the other hand just before the 24hrs started M$ and T10 dropped some nice shots of Le Mans. IMO this all has to do with T10 doing a better job marketing their series and keeping in touch with the current motorsports community. Nascar is popular in the US but really has no place IMO in a game from PD. Yes it's great to see what they can do woohoo but seriously.. It upsets me to consider they've wasted time modeling the CoT. I'll always purchase a GT title but this news didn't help anything IMO.

M$ continues to do a better job marketing then Sony.. 👎
T10 continues to do a better job marketing then PD.. 👎

It's sad but true.. and yes I played Le Mans in GT before but T10 is just better about getting the hype up. I wish PD had a blog, an official forum, and a community manager who interacted with the community. Instead we get press releases about how the game is complete but they're still working on it...

Personally Forza continues to get my attention as they add more customization options.. I am hoping for more from PD but I'm begginning to doubt them on deliving the level I need from my SIM.

 

[IsmokeGT]

The only reason Stewart is doing well is because he has had alot more seat time (like at least 13 years worth)

Stewart is doing good because he is in a Hendrick car. 👍

 

[Lucas]

Nascar is popular in the US but really has no place IMO in a game from PD.

Exactly why doesn't it belong to GT5?

 

[2JZFAN]

Exactly why doesn't it belong to GT5?

Well because it just has no base.. I feel it was added for the wow factor more then anything. While PD has always had a few race cars most vehicles are based on road going platforms.. What does the Nascar CoT have to do with that? My major issues are simply that I don't see a CoT motoring around Le Mans none the less mixing it up with a Z06 or GTR.. I just don't condone the addition as it does nothing but take focus away from the bigger picture of Gran Turismo..

I would prefer something more cohesive.. My personal choice would have been focusing on both the ALMS and ELMS. There are a number of racing series that deserve attention that would have been a better fit IMO..

Gran-am - KONI/Rolex, SCCA - World Challenge GT/World Challenge Touring Car, and any NASA competion class for that matter.. British GT, WTCC, FIA-GT & GT3, and DTM.. or even V8 Supercars..

I'd gladly take any of those series over NASCAR.. Any of those series would blend effortlessly if nothing else MUCH MUCH better with GT5 than NASCAR. It's clear to me it was more for the wow factor then anything else..

Shoot I'd be more excited about MotoGP as a non-cohesive addition then NASCAR.