Hybrids and Electrics aka Hippie cars

[Sam48]

The Teslas and Fiskers will be awesome to drive and all, but I don't give a crap for saving virtual trees while racing my prius. That's not what GT is about. So I hope the inclusion of electric and hybrid cars wasn't done to push that stupid "green" agenda.

 

[homeforsummer]

That is his problem! He thinks Top Gear is a factual show

Lets not put words into peoples' mouths...

 

[Sam48]

Everyone who drives a hybrid is a dirty, tree-hugging, hippie. Right, and a cleaner and more efficient car that can in some cases can keep pace with cars having much larger engine displacement/spewing CO2 into the air your breathing are "horrible machines" and EVs are just stupid because they aren't bellowing out at 120 decibals. How did you come to your coclusions? Did watching public media teach you this? Did reading Top Gear and hanging on Clarkson's every opinionated word influence this well thought out argument?

CO2 cools the atmosphere, yes it's a fact.

I have to agree with Heath_1.

You apparently live in a place with filtered media.

 

[SETWAVE]

Tesla is a terrible car, but i'm looking forward to trying an Audi Etron.

 

[Dan_]

Any new car included in GT is good enough for me, because they can make the dream of "The car encyclopedia" a little bit more possible.

The Tesla Roadster S has a tuned version which has a V8 sound played by the sound system, that was made by a german tuning firm, but I can't recall the name now. Anyway, the sound it's like the soul of the car ( as the styling is, of course ), so the standard Teslas must be boring to drive, you can say that just by hearing the unique note from the Carrera GT 5.7 liter V10 you can't compare the passion and soul built within each one of these two cars, but we wouldn't will get CGT in GT so hand me over the Tesla technofreak keys( if it has keys...)....

Note: A hippie has nothing to do with a electric car, they're mostly suited for capitalists who have good jobs, good education and money to pay their environmental concerns. Anyway, I was just wondering if the batteries the EVs carry (with all of those heavy elements) are even hazardous to the planet than the petrol engines.

 

[Micdog49]

Bugger the Tesla Roadster its rubbish. I don't care how fast it is, part of what makes a car exciting to drive is hearing the sound of the engine, hearing the revs. Listening to silence is just boring.

Since your an Aussie, and an Adelaide resident at that, I have a distinct feeling that you are a fan of big, clunky commodore bogan mobiles that do nothing except make a very loud V8-like drone that produce smoke from the tires just like the other zillion-or-so commodores in SA.

You are forgetting to recognise that, whilst it may be only a temporary fix, hybrids/electric vehicles are the way of the future and pretty soon that VP of yours is gunna get taxed for being, and there is no other word for it, dumb.

I agree and disagree. No, I do not particulary want a Prius in GT5. As mentioned before, you drive it once and it gathers dust in your bottomless garage until one day you scroll down the dark alley of desertion to find it and go 'I remember this'! Then you proceed to keep scrolling or sell it.

What I don't think is appropriate is your hate of all things electric. In the (possibly thread ending) end, What is the difference between an electric car and a Fiesta Econetic?

It makes noise, It goes just as fast as a Hybrid and it sips 3.7L/100km.

 

[Heath_1]

The Tesla Roadster S has a tuned version which has a V8 sound played by the sound system

Oh my.. are you serious? Does it come with a bumper sticker saying "When I grow up, I want to be a real V8"

 

[sumbrownkid]

bring it.

Goddamn.

 

[brainfade]

This goes right up there with the tree thread...

 

[Heath_1]

Tesla is a terrible car, but i'm looking forward to trying an Audi Etron.

I missed this post. That car has 4500 nm!! Should be interesting to try that car but I still don't like them lol.

 

[vaioleto]

lolwat, how nerdy is it to hate something for being in a videogame.

Personally, I don't care, I like driving diff cars, yes, even a prius.

P.S. that Porsche thing is a horrible looking abomination.

 

[CoolColJ]

for drag racing the electric cars would blitz off the line!

 

[Rykon Zero]

I think racing a Chevy Volt will be hilarious, you'll give it dozens of upgrades, and it'll turn out that it does NOTHING!

 

[Northstar]

So, the game will have the newest Tree hugging hippie cars.what are your thoughts on these horrible machines being in the game?

Do you like it? Will you drive any of them apart from when you have to?

Personally I hate them. Stupid cars but will make the game a bit interesting.

hmmmm..........Is this Eric Cartman?

 

[Lain]

I've just had a thought. What if you're using it for an endurance race. As in GT4 when it runs out of fuel, you simply pit in and get more. I wonder if they've thought of a plan for when the electric cars run out of power? I know some have petrol engine as back up, so maybe that will kick in but it's an interesting thought.

Well, the plan for quick "refueling" of electric vehicles is battery swapping...

 

[Raitziger]

Remember that GT has always served also as test drive system for car buyers. Im sure quite many people now thinking of buying hybrid or even full electric cars as they slowly break trough next year.

 

[McLaren]

Remember that GT has always served also as test drive system for car buyers. Im sure quite many people now thinking of buying hybrid or even full electric cars as they slowly break trough next year.

I think that's stretching the truth quite a bit. For some, maybe, but I don't think GT has always served that kind of purpose, seeing as most people don't rely on video games to tell them what cars are worth looking at.

 

[WolfRacer543]

Remember that GT has always served also as test drive system for car buyers.

Really? I'd never ever in my wildest dreams use video game impressions to influence my real life car buying decisions. There's nothing a video game can reliably tell you that should be serving as a test drive.

 

[homeforsummer]

CO2 cools the atmosphere, yes it's a fact.

Interesting. You'd better have a pretty good source for that "fact". Care to provide one?

Tesla is a terrible car

Why? What exactly makes it a "terrible" car?

 

[TouringDevotee]

Interesting. You'd better have a pretty good source for that "fact". Care to provide one?

I'd love to see several sources. CO2 cools the upper atmosphere, but it still warms the lower. Though even without all of that, whatever happened to the old adage of "better to err on the side of caution."

The cars: I'd just love to see their interiors from the cockpit view.

 

[novcze]

I understand the sentiment for high performance petrol engines, but everyday driving in real life doesn`t require that. If we are talking about game then yes, electric cars aren`t necessary, but in real life I`d love to drive car like Tesla.

I live in the city and my avarage daily distance traveled by car is around 20km, we have speed limit of a 50 kmph and only way how you can show off power of your car is acceleration. But when you get into car with petrol engine, especially in winter, the engine is cold and it takes time to get the car into right temperature. And even then, excessive revving isn`t good for the engine, then transmission and clutch are also under heavy load, etc. With electric car you don`t have to care about these things and you have lot of torque available.

 

[SETWAVE]

Why? What exactly makes it a "terrible" car?

Because the Elise which it is based on is 3 times cheaper and better performing.

 

[the Interceptor]

Because the Elise which it is based on is 3 times cheaper and better performing.

So you're basically saying that we should ditch the electric car if we can't make the first production models better than the petrol cars we have, despite knowing that petrol will run out?

We've got to start somewhere, and the first steps will be shaky. But that shouldn't keep us from trying, should it?

 

[red7]

CO2 cools the atmosphere, yes it's a fact.

I have to agree with Heath_1.

You apparently live in a place with filtered media.

Not sure that I ever even mentioned how CO2 affects atmospheric temperature or greenhouse gases did I? I did however mention that as CO2 continues to increase with our use of fossil fuels we are breathing the stuff. Yeah we breathe a percentage of CO2 but increased levels upset a balance and cause some nasty side-effects.
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/197162.html

That being said your opinion is your own and you can agree with whomever you like, but if you fire back with half-baked info you're just making yourself look silly.

 

[Dan_]

Oh my.. are you serious? Does it come with a bumper sticker saying "When I grow up, I want to be a real V8"

When it comes to torque no V8 can be compared to an electric powertrain, also, the torque curve is totally plane on a EV( 100% of torque available all the time). It might not sound good as your beloved V8 but certainly no V8 gives you such acceleration power.

I understand your point, sound is soul and this car hasn't one...

Brabus it's the author of the artificially recreated sound of the tesla roadster S, here's the pic:

 

[WolfRacer543]

CO2 cools the atmosphere, yes it's a fact.

I have to agree with Heath_1.

You apparently live in a place with filtered media.

Ummm, doesn't CO2 cool the upper atmosphere and make the lower atmosphere hotter? That was my understanding.

Any predictions on climate are extremely dodgy though. Too many variables for anyone to know what's going to happen.

 

[homeforsummer]

Because the Elise which it is based on is 3 times cheaper and better performing.

Completely irrelevant.

If that were the logic being used then any brand new car is "rubbish" because you can get more performance for less money by going second hand.

As Interceptor says, for a technology that hasn't undergone continuous development in road cars unlike the hundred plus years of development the ICE has seen, and companies like Tesla are still able to produce a car that outperforms a large proportion of ICE road cars whilst giving it a pretty good range (150-200 miles in normal use, over 300 on an eco run, and as much as 80 when used completely flat out - not bad when many electric cars don't manage that in gentle use).

 

[SETWAVE]

So you're basically saying that we should ditch the electric car if we can't make the first production models better than the petrol cars we have, despite knowing that petrol will run out?

We've got to start somewhere, and the first steps will be shaky. But that shouldn't keep us from trying, should it?

They should not be on sale to the public until they are better in all respects, manufacturers can research and develop them as much as they like until that time.
Petrol is not due to run out for at least another 500 years, based on oil resources, but it will get more expensive. As soon as battery technology is replaced with something else then electric cars should be very good. I look forward to an electric Elise type car that is lighter than 800kgs.

 

[SETWAVE]

Completely irrelevant.

If that were the logic being used then any brand new car is "rubbish" because you can get more performance for less money by going second hand.

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This is correct and that is why i will never buy a new car and i think anyone that does is insane, financially speaking. But the point remains that irrespective of price the Tesla fails miserably against petrol in performance terms.
A racing driver would never wish to get in it if there was petrol engined competitor.

 

[Sam48]

Interesting. You'd better have a pretty good source for that "fact". Care to provide one?

Co2 cools the atmosphere because co2 is heavier than oxogen. So when a car emits co2, the co2 simply stays on the earth. When the sun's rays penetrate the atmosphere, the rays themselves hit the oxygen(plus other atmospheric chemicals) first, then as the rays get closer to the earth, the rays hit the co2, which effectively slows down the rays (because co2, like I stated before, is heavier and denser than oxygen), and in the process doesn't allow the full blast of the suns rays to get to the ground. This is why co2 cools the earth.

But all this aside, I don't look at the whole "global warming" thing from a scientific stand point, I look at it from a business stand point. It's a form of TAXATION. Follow the money.