I feel GT6 will be a disappointment.

[ShiftingGears]

Everyone wants this game to be perfect but you can not get it perfect. For example look at the world now and you see that it is not perfect.

I don't expect perfection, but I do expect that a company with the resources PD has to fix gameplay issues that have been problematic for over ten years. Likewise I expect that PD includes features that other game series seem to have little problem implementing correctly. That isn't perfection, that is simply matching what your competition can achieve.

So please do what I will do go and buy GT6 when it comes and enjoy it.

If a large number of people continue to slavishly buy GT games regardless of whether they are good or bad, don't expect the quality of subsequent games to improve in any meaningful way.

 

[VBR]

@ White & Nerdy - Great post, if only PD would listen to the general common sense advice given by the GT Planet community.


👍

 

[TokoTurismo]

Have low expectations then you won't be disappointed

Wow thats a great idea!

Well yeah, of course it is haha. I mean, my expectations is only the course maker, everything else I have low for.

 

[HKS racer]

Well yeah, of course it is haha. I mean, my expectations is only the course maker, everything else I have low for.

So you are telling people to keep low expectations and still spend 60 bucks for it.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[VolkswagenX]

So you are telling people to keep low expectations and still spend 60 bucks for it.

Sounds like a plan.

I'm expecting the full game to have 20 cars and 4 tracks and I expect that the game will cost € 120,- on release. That way I will be amazed when It comes out being only € 60,- and having 1200 cars. Glad I'm this stupid

 

[TokoTurismo]

So you are telling people to keep low expectations and still spend 60 bucks for it.

Sounds like a plan.

Well not excatly, but if you want to, be my guess. Just be careful that you'll be disappointed in the end which I'm sure will happen.

 

[MXH]

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[CBH]

I don't expect perfection, but I do expect that a company with the resources PD has to fix gameplay issues that have been problematic for over ten years. Likewise I expect that PD includes features that other game series seem to have little problem implementing correctly. That isn't perfection, that is simply matching what your competition can achieve.



If a large number of people continue to slavishly buy GT games regardless of whether they are good or bad, don't expect the quality of subsequent games to improve in any meaningful way.

If you want PD to fix gameplay issues e-mail PD what do you think.

 

[Ryanswannell]

What I think the Gran Turismo series would benefit from is some competition. As far as I know, there is no other racer out there available on the PS3/PS4 which aims to compete directly against GT by delivering high end graphics, realistic physics, a huge car list and a competitive racing experience etc.
If a new racer was to emerge for the next-gen (exclusive to the PS4 or not) aiming to deliver the above, it would surely force PD to improve their game, such as adding things that would get people to buy their games to avoid the competition gaining a majority of gamers in the market, and they would most likely have to do this by listening to the community.
This would be win-win for us as we would either have an improved GT, or a game delivering more of what we want compared to what GT would be offering at that time. It also means that PD will need to pick up the pace to release their game, rather than dawdling about pushing their release dates back as we experienced with GT5.

 

[Streeto]

I do agree that GT5 seems to be biased with the type of cars they choose.
I don't need 25 variants for every Nissan or Toyota. I think it should be a little more fair to every car manufacturer. Forza seems to have it right. If there was a choice between Forza 4 and GT5 for my PS3, I would go with Forza.

EDIT: I was looking at Forza's website, and they have SO many more american and french and italian cars it's amazing. Some I'd point out are the AMC Javelin, '65 Mustang coupe, all kinds that GT never had.

Well now you're just showing your personal biased taste in cars when mentioning the Forza website, which is irrelevant to argument, as PD can't meet the requests of every single persons "favourite" cars.

Most people agree (me included) that there are a stupid amount of variants for SOME cars (and maybe not enough for others), but that's how it's always been if you actually played through the series.

There's not a whole lot we can do about that unfortunately, kaz tends to do what he wants to do.

Although, for your original argument, I would take sim physics over arcade physics any day, so the car list doesn't really factor in for most avid car fans like me.

We want the realism.

 

[Imari]

What I think the Gran Turismo series would benefit from is some competition. As far as I know, there is no other racer out there available on the PS3/PS4 which aims to compete directly against GT by delivering high end graphics, realistic physics, a huge car list and a competitive racing experience etc.

No one game will compete in all these areas, if only because being able to afford the licencing fees on 1200 cars only comes after you've had a couple of wildly successful games already.

There are debatably games out there that compete in the other areas, and there's one due soon that should compete strongly in all areas apart from car count.

 

[Ryanswannell]

There are debatably games out there that compete in the other areas, and there's one due soon that should compete strongly in all areas apart from car count.

What game is that? I'm not too clued up on my new releases at the moment.

 

[MeanElf]

What game is that? I'm not too clued up on my new releases at the moment.

Try looking up DriveClub and Project Cars.

I can't say that I agree with the logic though - PD don't really pay attention to other games and what they do.

 

[Johnnypenso]

What I think the Gran Turismo series would benefit from is some competition. As far as I know, there is no other racer out there available on the PS3/PS4 which aims to compete directly against GT by delivering high end graphics, realistic physics, a huge car list and a competitive racing experience etc.

You my friend have hit the proverbial nail on the head!!! I've said this many times, PD operates in a vacuum (and programs some of their car sounds accordingly) They have no real competition on the PS platform. Forza doesn't count as competition really because for the most part, it's two different customers. Some crossover for sure, but most platforms have their own customer base.

Competition breeds innovation. You can't churn out an inferior product, relative to your competition, and hope to succeed for long. If PD had another PS3 direct competitor gunning for the same market share, you'd see all the changes and improvements we desire, and more, but it won't happen as long as they have a virtual monopoly. They'll do the minimum they can get away with and no more, because they don't have to. Only significantly declining sales will bring about any change, and I doubt that will happen with this version of GT.

And no, neither Drive Club nor PCars are direct competition at this stage. DC is point to point on a different console with a small car list and PCars is also not available on PS3.

 

[Johnnypenso]

*accidental double post*

 

[HAL20XX]

Let me see if I've got this right: Keep expectations low for what many claim to be the best-in-class console sim-racer?

That makes absolutely NO sense.

Edit: Maybe that's why they didn't release it on the PS4 since that doesn't match their "Greatness Awaits" tagline

 

[Imari]

What game is that? I'm not too clued up on my new releases at the moment.

Project CARS was what I was referring to. Due some time early next year, still to be decided whether it'll be on PS4/XB1 or PS3/X360 or both.

It'd take a major company's worth of backing to go head to head against GT right now though. I could see someone deciding it might be a good idea around GT8 if the releases keep being uninspired, but the brand name of GT is a real powerhouse to go against.

 

[Ryanswannell]

Try looking up DriveClub and Project Cars.

I can't say that I agree with the logic though - PD don't really pay attention to other games and what they do.

O.k, I could be incorrect in saying that PD would change their ways if there was competition, but the only reason that they are not paying attention to other games at the moment or in the past is because that competition hasn't been there. EA (or whoever) tried with the shift series, but they didn't get close as at moments it was unplayable due to one bug or another, and even so the 'feel' of the game whilst driving was nothing like PD's efforts due to input lag and slightly arcady physics. The GRID series was also o.k but ultimately (more so with GRID 2) they were arcade racers.

Originally I thought that Project Cars was a PC sim, but after looking around it seems that I am incorrect. If this game does live up to it's billing, then maybe we will see PD pull their finger out with regards to community feedback, as Project Cars is going to include numerous things that people on this very forum are asking for from GT, and you cant argue that things such as night/day and weather cycles on all 35 tracks and a livery editor wouldn't make the GT series much better for a start.

Driveclub to me looks more online oriented like a social network racer than a racing sim to me, so I wouldn't really class that in the same category as GT, but I could be wrong:tup:.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere PCars is not coming out on PS3 but that may have been faulty intel. When both games are on the same console, and if PCars can live up to it's hype. that'll be a different story.

 

[hogger129]

OK. After playing the demo a little bit, if GT6 is going to be anything like this, I am selling my PS3, getting an XBOX One and the next Forza.

 

[Ryanswannell]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere PCars is not coming out on PS3 but that may have been faulty intel.

On their website it still has the current gen console's logo's on the banner, so maybe it will do. 2014 seems a bit late for a current gen release though?

http://www.wmdportal.com/projects/cars/

 

[Johnnypenso]

On their website it still has the current gen console's logo's on the banner, so maybe it will do. 2014 seems a bit late for a current gen release though?

http://www.wmdportal.com/projects/cars/

I scanned through the GTP thread and it looks like it's still up in the air, but if I can read through the gobbledygook correctly, my bet is on PS4 as I don't think the money is there to do both and I don't think the game will crossover to PS3's lack of firepower very well.

Once the two games are on the same console, the competition between the 2 will begin.

 

[Imari]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere PCars is not coming out on PS3 but that may have been faulty intel. When both games are on the same console, and if PCars can live up to it's hype. that'll be a different story.

Not true. At the moment it is under discussion which platforms the game should release for, and it will end with a vote by all members of the project and the developers.

But this is getting somewhat off topic.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Not true. At the moment it is under discussion which platforms the game should release for, and it will end with a vote by all members of the project and the developers.

But this is getting somewhat off topic.

100% true actually, it is what I read and it was faulty intel. Someone jumped the gun. As to your point though, it will end with a vote of whomever controls the money and where the most potential is for profit...but I digress.

 

[Terronium-12]

Either discuss GT6 or nothing at all.

This thread has nothing to do with the Xbox One, Forza Motorsport 5, or your distaste for either of the two.

 

[McLOVIN5489]

Try looking up DriveClub and Project Cars.

I can't say that I agree with the logic though - PD don't really pay attention to other games and what they do.

As they shouldn't.....Everyone wants this, or that, or the other. Heck, I'd like a few things myself that in an average gamers mind "should be an easy fix"....but you have to look at the series as any other innovative franchise whether it be games, tv, food, cars, etc...ESPECIALLY when the original creator is still involved directly. That is to say that when you create something so unique and as special as GT, you would never want to soil its roots by biting from another.... You stick to what got you there and you stick to the crowd who put you there....physics, gameplay, realism, etc. For the true racing crowd. (How many of you are actually DOING GT academy this year?). This is partially why you have so many nissans.. Nissan has been close to Kaz since day 1. naturally, there will be a healthy dose of their products...call Kaz "old school" in a sense when it comes to sticking to your own

 

[Tenacious D]

Either discuss GT6 or nothing at all.

This thread has nothing to do with the Xbox One, Forza Motorsport 5, or your distaste for either of the two.

Yeah, guess this is swinging pretty far OT...

 

[Johnnypenso]

Yeah, guess this is swinging pretty far OT...

Timely delete...lol...👍

 

[mister dog]

I got a bit more optimistic after the demo; i like the way they improved the circuit detail, how they are gonna implement day and weather changes and also the new physics model impressed me. I feel more in touch with the car then with GT5 or with FM for that matter.

If they manage to not screw up again on the AI (hope the demo one was just for the demo's sake), sounds and make the race formulas exciting again; i might just return to the GT camp after taking a sabbatical

Let's await judgement day tough, reviews will be critical for my decision.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I wonder if the PD crew actually gave themselves a pat on the back after another release with sterile races and utterly useless AI.

If you want PD to fix gameplay issues e-mail PD what do you think.

So naive of you. They know what the issues are, if they pay the slightest bit of attention to the online community. I'll vote with my wallet.