If you want to talk to other FM3 players just goto www.forzacentral.com. Great guys, I haven't gone there in a while though 
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I just traded in my PS3 + GT5 for an XBOX360 + Forza 3.
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This. I like cars. I own many games, almost all of them racing games. I also own both a PS3 and an X-Box 360, both the latest versions of each console. I have GT5 and Forza 3. Forza 3 gets 90% of the play time as it is in depth, the cars are generally a joy to drive and modify and most importantly of all, they sound right. You cannot imagine my disappointment when I got my first 200k in GT5, bought a big ass 10' Camaro and modded the hell out of it. It sounded like a poorly sampled RB26.
Compare that to a cammed, turboed Vette in Forza 3 and tell me which one you prefer.
I never get this. The cars either have too much grip in Forza or too little. You GT fanboys really need to make your mind up because otherwise you just look silly. 'Floaty physics' isn't what I feel, I feel a car I can balance, control and car that genuinley feels in contact with the road. GT5... Nah, it's not real, not even close. There are serious holes where things are simply ignored, cars will stick like baby sick to a blanket, and refuse to be upset by lumps in the track. I don't know if you've noticed, but rally (any, tarmac/dirt/snow) is like racing on oiled carpet. Ultra smooth, just with a different colour of ugly, blocky spray/dust being thrown up.
Lighting yeah it ain't the best, but to be frank I'd rather have FM3s graphical model with it's ultra smooth frame rate and full models than GT5s terrible hash up compromise thing. I mean have you noticed that all the flags are blowing around (looking like something out of an 80s cg film in the process) yet none of the trees are? I remember a bullpie reason for a delay being for Kaz' not liking how the blades of grass looked, where as what he should have done was stepped back and looked at the rest of his game, which looked like a car crash. Rather ironic, considering there isn't any damage. Yeah, the premium cars look ok, but there are too few and the standards are horrible. The rally looks and drives awful, the Nascar is pointless (and that's coming from a massive fan of the series) and the extremely limited modding is just a turn off.
As for the roads being flat in FM3, well tell that to the front end of my poor CTS-V coupe which was just sent into the barriers under braking by a rather brutal lump on the 'Ring. I also like the way the AI in Forza has been lumped into the cons despite it being openly admitted as being better than GT5. Does that mean GT5 needs an 'ultra-con' list to contain stuff that's so bad about it, it's even worse than the stuff in the con list of Forza?
I'm so tired of seeing the same bullcrap reasons for people moaning about Forza. Leave it alone. It's a far more accomplished game than GT5. Rather than bagging on people who have left the franchise to go for something a little less pretentious and half finished, seen as this is a GT5 board, I suggest you boys worry about suggesting ways of making GT5 playable to PD. seems as thogh they are so suddenly concerned about making contact with the players. This is no doubt as they have finally realised they need to develop a game rather than something for Kaz to have a crafty little tug over inbetween rubbing himself against Skylines.
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I'm far from being a very fast driver yet I found with upgrades and some tuning I could easily beat the AI even on hard in FM3. The only thing I had to worry about was some stupid AI smashing me in the back which in turn damage my car. Then the very fact you had to limit yourselves not using the unlimited rewind when they do. (no penalty in SP for using Rewind)
So for me I had to restrict myself in both games.
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Read what you just said.
If you put together the right car and tuned it properly, yes you can easily win sometimes. Not all cars of a the same PI index are equal (yeah, I'll admit the system has flaws), but they are close. I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. What you are describing happens in real life. There is a reason why Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mclaren took every single F1 race this season and it wasn't just because of who was in the drivers seat.
What I was pointing out was at least in Forza I can't enter my R1 class car in a Class A race (aside from the beginner ones). In the majority of GT5, I can enter the X2010 up against cars that can barely hit 100mph. Not only that, but if a race does restrict me to a certain class of car in GT5, like the Super GT events did, classic car cup, Japanese car cup, or DTM race, it still did not stop me from upgrading my car to the point of where I was far ahead by the first turn.
Also, come on now, you can brake check the AI in FM3 and they will not hit you very often. Plus, the fact that you admit they are that close to you clearly means you are not easily winning
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I can say for myself. I always played the Gran Turismo series and i will never play Forza. I dont like the game.
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I was the same until GT5 came out, and I tried Forza 3 at a mate's place. I now realise that ignorance is in fact not bliss, and I have been missing out on a great game all this time...
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What I find interesting is that the people complaining about damage in GT5 are the very same people who join rooms where the damage is turned off, because they can't drive, end up smashing their cars and thus can not complete the race because they are limping the rest of the race.
All the complaints of having no "mechanical damage", and when it's implemented in the game, 95% of the rooms I come across never turn it on. They to scared to drive properly....
And who told you to enter a x2010 in against cars with 100mph top speeds? Or tune your car to X amount of power/handling to where you are 40sec lead over the AI? YOU have control of that. You are your own spoiler for the game. I look at the specs on the cars that are in the race, and I set my cars up in conjunction with them so that I have to drive with precision to win. One mistake and boom...the AI is not far behind to overtake me when/if I make that mistake.
You will thank yourself for going about it this way when you go online and race against other people. Simply over tuning your car to make an easy win will result to you bringing up the rear in an online race where people who pay attention to actually "driving" the car are the ones at the front of the pack.
All the complaints of having no "mechanical damage", and when it's implemented in the game, 95% of the rooms I come across never turn it on. They to scared to drive properly....
Read what you just said.
If you put together the right car and tuned it properly, yes you can easily win sometimes. Not all cars of a the same PI index are equal (yeah, I'll admit the system has flaws), but they are close. I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here. What you are describing happens in real life. There is a reason why Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mclaren took every single F1 race this season and it wasn't just because of who was in the drivers seat.
What I was pointing out was at least in Forza I can't enter my R1 class car in a Class A race (aside from the beginner ones). In the majority of GT5, I can enter the X2010 up against cars that can barely hit 100mph. Not only that, but if a race does restrict me to a certain class of car in GT5, like the Super GT events did, classic car cup, Japanese car cup, or DTM race, it still did not stop me from upgrading my car to the point of where I was far ahead by the first turn.
Also, come on now, you can brake check the AI in FM3 and they will not hit you very often. Plus, the fact that you admit they are that close to you clearly means you are not easily winning
And who told you to enter a x2010 in against cars with 100mph top speeds? Or tune your car to X amount of power/handling to where you are 40sec lead over the AI? YOU have control of that. You are your own spoiler for the game. I look at the specs on the cars that are in the race, and I set my cars up in conjunction with them so that I have to drive with precision to win. One mistake and boom...the AI is not far behind to overtake me when/if I make that mistake.
You will thank yourself for going about it this way when you go online and race against other people. Simply over tuning your car to make an easy win will result to you bringing up the rear in an online race where people who pay attention to actually "driving" the car are the ones at the front of the pack.
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If you are happy with what you have, then so be it.
I personally like both Forza and GT5 so it's all good.
I personally like both Forza and GT5 so it's all good.
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Also, come on now, you can brake check the AI in FM3 and they will not hit you very often. Plus, the fact that you admit they are that close to you clearly means you are not easily winning
Of course they are very close at the beginning of the race. Once I learn the track I can easily pull away from the AI on most tracks. Usually after a lap or two the race is won (or lost if I limit my car too much). Just like Forza3 give the casual gamer unlimited rewind (a build-in cheat) on all difficulty levels Gt5 gives the casual player the option to use a overpowering car like X2010 (cheat car) in most races.
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GT5 was the only reason I bought a PS3. I don't play any other games aside from racing games; and even then, only 'serious' games. I can't stand Burnout, NFS etc. I'm not even that good either in the great scheme of things, I just enjoy racing, winning money (accruing a fortune if I can), buying and customising cars and so on.
GT5 was a disappointment to me [for the very first time in the series], so I bought the only other game that gives me what I want.
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man you'll be missing out! gt5 is just in a whole new realm, as forza is just the same old need for speed stuff. oh well, i still respect your decision though.
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Come om man, i come from the forza community, and forza 3 isnt beter than gt5 when it comes to physics. I Think gt5 is more fun, especialy the driving and online play, as you can host public races etc. Forzas online racing is boring, only 8 players and you cant race public. On the other hand, the customisation is very good, and all 500 cars are premium. Is you are an enthusiast and have 360 and ps3, gt5 and forza 3 is the way to go.
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I totally agree with that; they both have their pros and cons. But Forza's pros outweigh GT5's for me.
As for them being too boring and easy; that's more of an opinion (which I'm sure would be shared by many players). But I don't find Forza's career mode easy OR boring. With all assists off and the AI set to 'hard' I find it a great challenge. Not maddeningly difficult ala the X2010 challenge on GT5, just to the point where if I make a mistake I will lose the race, and that works for me.
I played F3 with all assists off and AI on hard to get 100% of winnings, but it was still easy for me, GT5 is no different. As i said before, you will be happy with F3, but if you have enough money to hold on to PS3 and GT5, and to have x360 and F3 then you will be even more happy. Cause we don't know what future updates will bring us in GT5, but if you don't have enough money for both consoles, then you should switch to x360, if you feel like that, and you shouldn't listen to anybody, me included :-).
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Forza 3 streets ahead than GT5? You mean graphics wise or maybe physics... ? Or any feature a so called game has over another?
Expecting another update patch for GT5 in March in anticipation for Shift 2 and then a update patch before Forza 4 (who knows, might happen). GT5 has another 3 years to go, Forza 3 time is nearly up. I have played Forza 3, great racing but I have had great races in plenty racing games like Race 07, Enthusia and even Mod Nation and Race Pro.(Race Pro, now that is a real racing video game, all aids off and a few friends is the best way to play).
Seriously, Streets ahead of what video racing game?
Forza 3 streets ahead than GT5? You mean graphics wise or maybe physics... ? Or any feature a so called game has over another?
Expecting another update patch for GT5 in March in anticipation for Shift 2 and then a update patch before Forza 4 (who knows, might happen). GT5 has another 3 years to go, Forza 3 time is nearly up. I have played Forza 3, great racing but I have had great races in plenty racing games like Race 07, Enthusia and even Mod Nation and Race Pro.(Race Pro, now that is a real racing video game, all aids off and a few friends is the best way to play).
Seriously, Streets ahead of what video racing game?
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Forza 3's career mode is streets ahead of GT5's, in my opinion - it gives me what I want for a single player experience.
RikkiGT-RAs titled. Just home with my 360 and Forza 3 after trading in my PS3 and GT5. I know it was the right move; GT5 was soulless and boring. I can't wait to add some body kits, increase wheel size, custom paint jobs etc etc... Not to mention damage and opponents who actually put in some bloody effort. So exciting.
Just though I'd share my joy with you guys
I agree with you... Although I haven't played any of the past GT games, GT5 really just didn't satisfy me. I'm completely bored with A-spec and B-spec because there's either no challenge to the races or there's too much challenge. I remember the first time I played FM3, and I was stuck on the couch for at least six hours straight (until my friend had to leave and take his Xbox). And that was with a pad! I can't imagine what I'd do if I had FM3 and a wheel... Forza 3 just sucked me in a lot more than GT5 did, and the ability to test drive most of the cars is awesome! I never had time to get into the livery editor or tuning aspects of the game, but I'm sure they're just as polished as the rest of the game. I honestly wish I could play it now, but I'm not buying an Xbox for just one game, and there aren't many other games I'd want to buy for it. Plus, my PS3 fits all my needs, so I'm not complaining. And I recently subscribed to iRacing, which I think is the best racing simulator I've ever played, and it's spectacular with a force feedback wheel such ad the G27! The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that you need to pay for just about everything... To host a race, it costs $3!
But I think FM3 is the better console sim as of now. I think the main problem is that Kaz is mainly doing what he wants and not what the gamers want, which is another area where Turn 10 excels in.
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The career mode in any racing game for this generation is better than GT5's. Can't really call it career mode in GT5, maybe jaunt.
Racing experience is where it is at and this depends how one approaches, then tackles it. Forza does it one way GT another way.
This has nothing to do with opinion and a lot to do with execution. There is still the possibility that those who have chosen one over the other will one day(who knows) miss out. GT5 has only just started.
Racing experience is where it is at and this depends how one approaches, then tackles it. Forza does it one way GT another way.
This has nothing to do with opinion and a lot to do with execution. There is still the possibility that those who have chosen one over the other will one day(who knows) miss out. GT5 has only just started.
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Kaz and Ken only do what Sony and Microsoft want. Will they get what they want?
Does Kaz want a livery editor or will Sony let them design one then curtail the design?
Does Ken want over a thousand cars or will Microsoft give them the nod and then scrap it.
So much going on in the electronic software/hardware video game industry that not even the developers can keep up.
Two consoles are better than one right now.
Does Kaz want a livery editor or will Sony let them design one then curtail the design?
Does Ken want over a thousand cars or will Microsoft give them the nod and then scrap it.
So much going on in the electronic software/hardware video game industry that not even the developers can keep up.
Two consoles are better than one right now.
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If you want to talk to other FM3 players just goto www.forzacentral.com. Great guys, I haven't gone there in a while though
This would be an ok place but the Forza forum is bombarded buy GT5 ultra fanboys....kind of makes me wonder if they are bored with GT5 to keep up with the Forza board so much.
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The thing with Forza is Everything is at your fingertips. In GT5 you NEED too work for it.
The questionable carlist is another thing that got too me after 2 months of playing GT5. 1000 cars or not. Quality over Quantity.
The questionable carlist is another thing that got too me after 2 months of playing GT5. 1000 cars or not. Quality over Quantity.
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