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[Time_Attack]

Those wheels have more dish than I have in my entire kitchen...

 

[Dragonistic]

My problem is they actually look like a bowl when they're all flat like that, I'm not a fan of rims which are just flat like that. I like something with gaps

 

[Time_Attack]

 

[NISM0_SKYLINE]

I'm usually not a Miata fan but......👍. Its those wheels, they just pull it altogether.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Don't tell me those are Rota's.

My buddy actually just put that same lip on his car today, except his is color matched to the champ white car. Garage Vary finally reduced the price for them so he snatched one up.👍

 

[Keef]

Don't tell me those are Rota's.

They look like Offroads, but they don't come in silver from Rota. But who would ever take the Volk stickers off their wheels?

 

[mazdaman]

Do you know the motor in that car???

 

[Perfect Balance]

They look like Offroads, but they don't come in silver from Rota. But who would ever take the Volk stickers off their wheels?

I'm sure you could get that color combo custom made by rota, or at least it wouldn't be very difficult. The polished lip is very unlikely to be on a set of real Volks.

Either way, if he could afford the hardtop on the car, wheels shouldn't be a problem.

EDIT: Before someone comes in and says a bunch of crap about not wanting to spend a lot of money on wheels, blah blah blah, I'd just like to say I dislike when people buy fake wheels not because they're "cheap" or whatever you want to call it, but because they supported a company that produces wheels with blatantly ripped off designs. That's my "opinion" on the matter.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

EDIT: Before someone comes in and says a bunch of crap about not wanting to spend a lot of money on wheels, blah blah blah, I'd just like to say I dislike when people buy fake wheels not because they're "cheap" or whatever you want to call it, but because they supported a company that produces wheels with blatantly ripped off designs. That's my "opinion" on the matter.

What about my wheels? They're Ro_Ja R2-5's, but they're made by Ray's. So where does that leave me?!

 

[McLaren]

God, who cares!? So, they're knock-offs. I'm sorry not all of us can afford to drop $3,000 on the wheels alone & more on the tires, esp. in this economy. Most people would probably think you're nuts anyways.

As long as the company producing the knock-offs aren't making them out of awful material & build them to withstand the use of a typical wheel, let people buy them.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

 

[Perfect Balance]

God, who cares!? So, they're knock-offs. I'm sorry not all of us can afford to drop $3,000 on the wheels alone & more on the tires, esp.

If they actually did cost $3000, your point would be valid. $400 a wheel will get you pretty much anything that isn't a Volk wheel, especially on a Miata, and that's far from $3000.


They can afford it, they don't want to.

In my opinion, it ruins the car, and the person sucks for supporting people selling stolen designs. Don't ponder on it too much, I'm not trying to start an argument.

BTW, they aren't nearly as strong as the real deals.

 

[Time_Attack]

$1600 for wheels and then another 400+ for tires isn't that far from $3000.

 

[Joey D]

Awesome MINI with some equally awesome photography.

And I still don't know why MINI doesn't offer white

 

[Time_Attack]

learn to fly on dead end street... haha

 

[Jim Prower]

learn to fly on dead end street... haha

Yes...It's called a "runway." They usually have "Dead" ends. :3

 

[McLaren]

If they actually did cost $3000, your point would be valid. $400 a wheel will get you pretty much anything that isn't a Volk wheel, especially on a Miata, and that's far from $3000.

I don't know where you shop, but the average price for a well-known wheel seems to run more along the lines of $500-600 a wheel.

And the Miata isn't a great way to prove that wheels are cheap since they run what, 15-16" factory wheels from the factory? There is a big price difference for a 16" set of rims & an 18" set.

They can afford it, they don't want to.

Oh, thank you for knowing everyone's financial situation. Perhaps you can also tell the owners' how to manage their money, then.

BTW, they aren't nearly as strong as the real deals.

Hence, why I said the last part.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Woah! 👍

 

[Perfect Balance]

$1600 for wheels and then another 400+ for tires isn't that far from $3000.

Mclaren said $3000 on wheels alone. If you include tires bump that up to $3500 or so.

I don't know where you shop, but the average price for a well-known wheel seems to run more along the lines of $500-600 a wheel.

Here's a few links:

17 x 8 Advan RZ for just under $500 a piece
17 x 9 Advan RGII for under $500
17 x 8 AME Tracer FS01 for $400 a wheel
17 x 9 Gramlights 57D for $360 a wheel
17 x 9 Work Emotion CR Kai for $400 a wheel

All of those wheels I posted were in decently large sizes. In smaller sizes they are even cheaper, and companies like Enkei and 5Zigen offer wheels well under $300, and some under $200 as well.

And the Miata isn't a great way to prove that wheels are cheap since they run what, 15-16" factory wheels from the factory? There is a big price difference for a 16" set of rims & an 18" set.

That's why I said especially for a Miata, wheels aren't expensive at all.

Oh, thank you for knowing everyone's financial situation. Perhaps you can also tell the owners' how to manage their money, then.

I was making $35 a week when I bought my wheels. When my buddy bought his $1600 Wats, he was in 10th grade in high school, making 100 bucks a week at a university cafe here, while paying for insurance and gas, food, ect.

"Don't want to" is one thing, "can't" is another.

Hence, why I said the last part.

That's what I was referring to, they are making them out of crap materials. A guy at work has a set of Rota Slipstreams on his car. One of them cracked recently. It wasn't even mounted on a car. It just wouldn't hold air out of the blue and under closer inspection we found a crack. I'm sure you've seen the motivational pictures about others.

The Enkei Rpf1s I had on my Civic when I wrecked (all $180 dollar a wheel of them) the one on the front right wheel was hit directly by the Chevy Silverado, hard enough to tear the welds on my front clip off, bust my lower control arm, turn the upper one into a pretzel, break the axle, and bend the coilover with the rim of the wheel when it hit it.

Yeah, it made a few dents on the inside of the wheel and cracked the rim, but that's it. The outside of it just appears to be scratched.

 

[Time_Attack]

I don't really care who makes a wheel if its the size and style I want I'll buy it. Sometimes its easier to find a wheel in the right width & offset if its a remake other times you can find a name brand that suits your needs.

I've had a couple sets of rotas, a set of A-techs, a set of SSRs,, a set of Advans... Theres not much of a difference really.

 

[Perfect Balance]

I don't really care who makes a wheel if its the size and style I want I'll buy it. .

You do realize that "style" of knockoff wheel you want wouldn't exist if a legit company hadn't gone through and designed it in the first place for someone else to copy?

There are people here who say "well some of us can't afford the real thing" and it makes me sick. You're essentially saying "I can't afford to support the company who came up with this idea/product/whatever, so instead, I'll give my money to the company who is stealing from the company I wish I could help." Remeber, without the original company, there wouldn't be some awesome replica wheel for you to buy.

EDIT:

 

[Time_Attack]

You do realize that "style" of knockoff wheel you want wouldn't exist if a legit company hadn't gone through and designed it in the first place for someone else to copy?

I'm not sure you could really say that. If one company doesn't make something another will.

 

[Perfect Balance]

I'm not sure you could really say that. If one company doesn't make something another will.

Then someone would come along and copy that one as well. What's the difference?

 

[misnblu]

Even if it's copied and meets the standards of lightweight and durable, who really cares?
I see such a knock on the Rota rims lately and still see some of the biggest tuners using their rims.
Even Modified magazine used the Rota Boost rims on their S2000 boosted shootout.
That's the same rim I have and use.
I don't see an issue with a company that can make a rim that is similar with near equal weight and offer it at a lower price.
That's competition and gets the market moving with product.
You just have to be cautious with what you buy and be informed on the quality of so called knock offs.

 

[Perfect Balance]

That's the same rim I have and use.
I don't see an issue with a company that can make a rim that is similar with near equal weight and offer it at a lower price.
That's competition and gets the market moving with product.

And in turn keeps the money away from the companies who designed the products and would use the profits to introduce new products to the market.

When is the last time Rota introduced something original? What about a company like Tenzo R? Or OBX?

You just have to be cautious with what you buy and be informed on the quality of so called knock offs.

Apparently products that have been known to just fall apart from slight knocks, or some for no apparent reason at all is great quality. Especially for products that could cost your life if they failed. Who cares if my wheel snaps in half from a pothole and I crash and mess up my car and possibly myself? $100 will get me another pos just like it!

 

[Time_Attack]

I think you're basing your opinion on a lot of hype. If they were really that unsafe they wouldn't sell any.

 

[speed junkie]

I think you're basing your opinion on a lot of hype. If they were really that unsafe they wouldn't sell any.

Hype? Not at all. I wont speak for PB but I will say: "Who needs high quality products for cruising the streets, right?"

 

[misnblu]

I think you're basing your opinion on a lot of hype. If they were really that unsafe they wouldn't sell any.

^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^

I completely agree.
Just because you've seen maybe 5 pictures of Rota rims that have failed, that's nothing in comparison of what's been sold.
So let's see, they sell a half a million rims in a year and 5 fail. Pretty good odds that you'll have a bad rim.
Next thing is, I'm sick and tired of hearing people say, 'what if you hit a pot hole or curb, your rim will be destroyed'. That's just about with any rim you buy.
First, I'm not about to look for potholes to go breaking rims in.
Second, I always watch where I'm going and looking for imperfections in the road along with debris. This is something that everybody should do but most don't.
Now if there's a situation in which you can't prevent something from happening, it happens.
But out of the 3/4 million miles I've driven in my life, I've yet to be in that situation in all my travels.

All this hype about the Rotas being junk is just blown out of proportion as is typical of the internet and media.

Last, I make good money but not enough to buy top of the line rims for my ride. Everyone has to make a decision on what's best for them, what suits them, and what is in their build budget.

And in turn keeps the money away from the companies who designed the products and would use the profits to introduce new products to the market.

And how many rims can you make?
I'm pretty sure that most rim designs are used up with very few that are something that are ground breaking.

Sorry for the little rant. I had to get it out of me with all the hoopla over the Rota series rims.

 

[Time_Attack]

agreed

 

[Perfect Balance]

I think you're basing your opinion on a lot of hype. If they were really that unsafe they wouldn't sell any.

I really don't care if they're safe or not, I'm not going to be riding on them anyway, the only thing I have a problem with is the millions of people who support thieves and sit there defending them. If you're going to do that then why not shoplifters? Is there really a difference between stealing something and selling it or stealing someones designs, making a product and selling it?

At least the person who stole something and sold it is still offering the buyer the original product.

^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^

I completely agree.
Just because you've seen maybe 5 pictures of Rota rims that have failed, that's nothing in comparison of what's been sold.
So let's see, they sell a half a million rims in a year and 5 fail. Pretty good odds that you'll have a bad rim.
Next thing is, I'm sick and tired of hearing people say, 'what if you hit a pot hole or curb, your rim will be destroyed'. That's just about with any rim you buy.
First, I'm not about to look for potholes to go breaking rims in.
Second, I always watch where I'm going and looking for imperfections in the road along with debris. This is something that everybody should do but most don't.
Now if there's a situation in which you can't prevent something from happening, it happens.
But out of the 3/4 million miles I've driven in my life, I've yet to be in that situation in all my travels.

All this hype about the Rotas being junk is just blown out of proportion as is typical of the internet and media.

Last, I make good money but not enough to buy top of the line rims for my ride. Everyone has to make a decision on what's best for them, what suits them, and what is in their build budget.

I don't look for potholes either, and I've been driving for about 3 years now without ever hitting a curb or a big enough pot hole to do any damage. I was just trying to support my point that knockoff wheels are very rarely, if ever made to the same level of strength, shown by the fact that my fairly cheap wheel took one hell of a hit and came out with minimal damage, whereas I've seen knock off wheels crack and shatter over nothing, and as in my personal experience, literally nothing at all. The dealership that I work at is in one building as the body shop, and I've seen countless vehicles come in on cheap wheels that have been completely destroyed in small crashes, and a few that were caused by a wheel breaking after the car slid off the road or something, where it otherwise would have simply slid to a stop.

And how many rims can you make?
I'm pretty sure that most rim designs are used up with very few that are something that are ground breaking.

I'm not referring to just wheels, wheels is just the example at hand.