Is Special Stage Route 11 in GT5?

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SuperShouden
Also, Looking at the Standard car pic, it doesn't even make sense to be SSR5. Coming up from a tunnel into the chicane? What? And from the standard cars video those GT cars are VERY close to the LMPs, suggesting that either the race just started or the GT cars just got lapped. Granted, this doesn't make any sense if it's SSR11, either. I would actually assume, now, that this is a new track.
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Did you ever think that the LMP cars might have started at the back of the pack?

Besides, it was made for promotional purposes, it didn't have to be a normal race.
 
Well of course we cannot say for certain, but this is a speculative discussion. If you wanna just kill it by saying "nobody knows until we have the game" then sure. That is, of course, true. I mean I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I'd certainly wager a hundred bucks that all these night pics are from SSR5.

A couple of pages ago we had people rubbishing "evidence" of SSR5, and stating it definitely was NOT ssr5. Now I think there's pretty strong evidence (without quotes :lol:) has been presented that it is :)

ed. And finally I give you Conquerer's perfect Bentley GT4 screenshot that shows the same exact illusion of a straight on this part of SSR5.
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Case rested :P
 
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The only thing about that though is the barriers have arrows. But if they didn't, then it would give the same illusion.

It is SSR5, I am 100% sure. But that doesn't mean to say we won't see SSR11 in GT5. Come on PD, it's one of my favourite tracks from the entire series!

Could we also see a 'clubman' stage route 11 too? 💡
 
real_tron
Well of course we cannot say for certain, but this is a speculative discussion. If you wanna just kill it by saying "nobody knows until we have the game" then sure. That is, of course, true. I mean I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I'd certainly wager a hundred bucks that all these night pics are from SSR5.

A couple of pages ago we had people rubbishing "evidence" of SSR5, and stating it definitely was NOT ssr5. Now I think there's pretty strong evidence (without quotes :lol:) has been presented that it is :)

ed. And finally I give you Conquerer's perfect Bentley GT4 screenshot that shows the same exact illusion of a straight on this part of SSR5.
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Case rested :P
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Right. I love how you say that the GT5 pics are from the chicane, and yet you show a photo of the turn after the Hairpin in GT4. *claps* You can show two VERY different corners and call them the same corner. And yet, you also said that there was a tunnel in the GT5 pics which also doesn't match with SSR5.
 
SuperShouden
Right. I love how you say that the GT5 pics are from the chicane, and yet you show a photo of the turn after the Hairpin in GT4. *claps* You can show two VERY different corners and call them the same corner. And yet, you also said that there was a tunnel in the GT5 pics which also doesn't match with SSR5.
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lol no, that's the final triple apex chicane.

Whilst the layout of SSR5 hasn't changed... It appears as though (From screenshots we have seen) they have made big improvements to the environment. Including a tunnel underneath the overpass.

The image above and the image on the first page show the same corner from my point of view. You can continue to think differently if you want to. Some peope also thought they saw Loch Ness. Analysts say it's because your eyes can manipulate your view so you see what you want to see. You are seeing SSR11, but there is no indication that it is, there is overwhelming evidence that it is SSR5.
 
Hmm, that picture essentially confirms it. Not 100%, but very, very likely.

It still doesn't quite cover the part of the E3 video with the SLR coming out of the tunnel (or the group of cars heading into that same tunnel a bit earlier in the video). It can't be the straight leading up to the triple-apex because the tunnel is too long and completely level. The rise upon exit is also more drastic than the rise before the triple-apex on SSR5.

Playing detective is an entertaining way to pass the time...
 
I think that it has to be SSR5 only because if you look closely behind the v12 BMW in the standard cars picture you will see rumble strips and then on that same spot on the gt4 picture the rumble strip is there.
 
SuperShouden
No. there's just not a real good definitive picture that ABSOLUTELY confirms it's SSR5 or SSR11.
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No, but the film clip does tell us that the chicane is absolutely not from SSR11 as we know it.

SuperShouden
Right. I love how you say that the GT5 pics are from the chicane, and yet you show a photo of the turn after the Hairpin in GT4. *claps* You can show two VERY different corners and call them the same corner.
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I took that photo. I know exactly where I was on the track when I did. I was right here:
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-> Based on my (countless) lap experiences from GT1, 2, 3, & 4. ;)

-> I can surely bet that this is SSR5, not (my favorite) SSR11 '90s or SSR11 Millenium/'00 [from GT3]. :sly:

~> Or I'll give up my post on The Vehicle Wish List. :D
 
SSR11 (90s) - Arguably the most challenging circuit in GT1. The IA licenses and the endurance race of this track are very memorable.

SSR11 (00s) - Not as challenging as the GT1 version due to the changes, but was still a very exciting circuit. Good mix of corners, fast and slow. Despite being a city circuit, had some good elevation changes. It was also one of only two night circuits and the best looking circuit in GT3 in my opinion, the 'glow' the circuit gives off is immense.

I've never considered SSR5 to be as good. It was always one of those beginner circuits in my eyes (Because of the clubman layout) and the reverse version is overused. The forward version rarely got used in GT4, especially in some of the higher end events. I only seem to remember the FR challenge, Clubman cup and maybe the Turbo/NA cup here...

The things we have seen in this thread all point towards SSR5 not SSR11. I will be very disappointed with GT5 if this circuit isn't in. Although, it would redeem itself if it had all of the following: Deep Forest, Trial Mountain, Grand Valley Speedway.
 
Grand vally IS in. The other two have never missed a full game and SSR11 has been in every GT with an uneven number. I give it a chance.
 
Quintin03
Grand vally IS in. The other two have never missed a full game and SSR11 has been in every GT with an uneven number. I give it a chance.
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None of those other 3 tracks have been confirmed in any way. I don't know where you get your info from, but as of yet, Grand Valley is not in.
 
Quintin03
That section corresponds with the run up to the chicane in SSR5.
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Yep, exactly. All they've done is increase the elevation change leading out from the underpass and modify it a bit so it's more like a tunnel. It's very clear that it is SSR5.

(Infact i'm not even sure the elevation has been increased at all, there was always a big hill there)
 
Yeah, the only real correlation after racing SS11 yesterday are the tree's bar that im fairly certain its 5
 
My favorite track of GT1 was SSR11, first taste of endurance racing.

One thing about SSR5 had that I don't see in the pictures below was the pit lane running parallel the the main straightaway.
It could be just out of picture, but I don't think that to be the case, this seems to be only a intersection. Still hoping for SSR11.
My guess it is a new track. :)


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regnar
My favorite track of GT1 was SSR11, first taste of endurance racing.

One thing about SSR5 had that I don't see in the pictures below was the pit lane running parallel the the main straightaway.
It could be just out of picture, but I don't think that to be the case, this seems to be only a intersection. Still hoping for SSR11.
My guess it is a new track. :)


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The pitlane is in the top picture just below the main track, exactly how it always is (at least I'd assume that's probably the pit lane).
 
-> I can also see that the top most overpass is the Clubman R5 section (last corner):

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(sorry for the tacky workmanship)

^ So that means Clubman Stage R5 is semi-confirmed. ;)
 
The Vanishing Boy
^ So that means Clubman Stage R5 is semi-confirmed. ;)
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Yup :) I don't see any reason why they shouldn't include it. After all, it only requires that section modelled and the AI programmed for those last 2 turns, the rest is all taken from SSR5.

And the trees at the chicane, if you look, the ones on the outside of the turn are also in GT4, and the middle is covered in advertising hoardings (Possibly with trees inside). The only difference is, the trees don't have lights on them.
 
The pitlane is in that picture. It's the road just above(location in pic) the SSR5 road. SSR5 pitlane always went below the Clubman Route 5 final corner.
 
-> This is odd, because the length of the pitlanes between the Special Stage R5/SSR5 & Clubman Stage R5/CSR5 are as follows:

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^ I think (as far as I can remember), on the SSR5 the pitlane goes underneath the overpass on what the CSR5 route, but I have to pullout my GT4 to check it all out. :confused:
 
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