Israel - Palestine discussion thread

[HenrySwanson]

So this legitimises the deaths of UN workers now, should they occur?

 

[Joey D]

Israeli airstrike kills at least 20 people including children at a school in central Gaza

An Israeli airstrike has killed at least 20 people including children at a school-turned-shelter in central Gaza, according to local hospitals.

apnews.com

Imagine simping for these war criminals.

 

[dylansan]

I just watched a hand desperately reaching out of burning rubble in Deir al-Balah near al-Aqsa Hospital after Israel bombed the displaced people in tents there, about 45 minutes ago.

Doesn't seem like bystanders were able to rescue people. Apparently at least one little girl burned alive.

Edit: the hand belonged to a patient hooked to an IV while burning in a hospital bed.

I don't ever want to hear about Israel having the most moral army or attempting avoid civilian casualties ever again.

 

[Liquid]

So this legitimises the deaths of UN workers now, should they occur?

Stop being anti-Semetic.

 

[HenrySwanson]

Sounds like he needs to go back over some of his book's verses:

Save One Life, Save the Entire World (Including Yourself)

rac.org

Or is one life a bit more valuable than another.

EDIT:



If true, they are incompetent (I really hope they aren't complicit). This whole region is a mess and it's spilling out onto streets worldwide.

EDIT 2:

Are we in danger of a redo of the Antebellum South

The myth of Arab-Jewish comity and parity in Islamic lands found more advocates beginning in the mid-1950s, as scholars and activists in the West embraced what Lewis dubbed the “mystique of Third Worldism, ... a new variant of the old golden-age myth,” now relocated to formerly colonized lands. In the current paradigm, the cultures and belief-systems of the colonized were celebrated, with the now discredited Western powers held responsible for the societies’ conflicts and travails.[28] It was with the Suez War of 1956 that this intellectual model came increasingly to be applied to the Middle East, as Britain and France were widely seen as attempting to reassert their control in the region. Although Israel joined the fray in large part to quell the persistent attacks on its population by fedayeen in the Sinai, it was now cast as the junior partner in the imperialist drive. The discourse became even more politicized, more strident, in the 1960s, with Zionism now starring as the last imperialist villain of the drama, when over the course of the Six Day War against the fourteen nations of the Arab League, Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Golan Heights, the Gaza strip, and the Sinai. Now scholars and commentators, especially those on the left, redoubled their efforts to portray the interfaith—and interracial—utopia that had allegedly prevailed in Arab lands before the imperialist invasions and the founding of the Jewish state, when a tolerant Islam ensured civil rights, security, equality and religious freedom to Jewish minorities. Ignoring centuries of travelers’ accounts and investigative reports, they turned reality on its head.

When the Jewish essayist Albert Memmi, who was born in Tunisia in 1920 and educated in Algeria, moved to France, he was startled to come “face-to-face with a fable that was very popular among the left-wingers in Paris ... that the Jews had always lived in perfect harmony with the Arabs.” He was “almost congratulated on having been born in one of those countries where race discrimination and xenophobia were unknown.” Memmi understood this was “nonsense"—"countertruth"—and that “it is time to denounce this fraud.” Memmi was also distressed that Jules Isaac, the French Jewish intellectual whom he generally admired, had identified “true antisemitism” only as “the result of Christianity.” Memmi explained, “I am sorry to say that by making antisemitism a Christian creation, Isaac minimized the tragedy of the Jews in the Arab countries and helped to create a false understanding of the question.”[29]

 

[Scaff]

Sounds like he needs to go back over some of his book's verses:

Save One Life, Save the Entire World (Including Yourself)

rac.org

Or is one life a bit more valuable than another.

EDIT:



If true, they are incompetent (I really hope they aren't complicit). This whole region is a mess and it's spilling out onto streets worldwide.

EDIT 2:

Are we in danger of a redo of the Antebellum South

Are we back to taking the IDF at face value again?


And citing the Middle East Forum as well, a conservative think tank set up to promote US interests, with close ties to Israel? Did the absolutist nature of that piece not give you the slightest pause for thought?

 

[HenrySwanson]

Jesus christ, this is like a cult....