"It Takes No Skill To Drag" - Prove it

[Bobby-Vegas]

Knowledge != skill, but go ahead.

The only skill you seem to talk about is tuning, but I suggested if you want to see what is more challenging in terms of skill, just use stock cars. The only player variables for drag is launch and shifts, beyond the setup. Far more things are considered in Circuit type events, from understanding corners to throttle and shift control (also relevant in drag), braking points, etc. There are simply more variables.

This place reminds me quite a bit of the GT3 and GT4 drifting sub-forums.

Looking at yo avatar made me laugh kid..
This whole thing is about PROVE IT! No debate crap playa..
Bring yo butt to a 'slow room' then a 'Pro Room' and prove it's easy to drag.

 

[Mac K]

It feels like an inner city 8th grade class in here.

 

[ROYALEFATALE]

what exactly are you asking people to "prove"? that they spent less time tweaking numbers than you did? ok you have a fast car, you're not a fast driver, big difference.

 

[midnight910]

what exactly are you asking people to "prove"? that they spent less time tweaking numbers than you did? ok you have a fast car, you're not a fast driver, big difference.

Prove it

 

[OwensRacing]

Has anyone every frequented a car forum with a presence of street racing? LOL


Well if not. Do, it will make sense. Most don't mean harm. They are just harsh in their words. As well don't have much care for grammar. Have some smart friends that are strictly car and mechanical smart. Grammar doesn't matter.

Anyway. Got that Grudge Race feeling.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

All of this "prove it" ego talk is avoiding a serious issue - if drag racers are insistent that drag racing is somehow harder than circuit racing, the onus is on them to provide proof. Not the other way around.

If someone can tell me how tuning (and then driving) to get a fast time in a straight line is more difficult and time consuming than tuning (and then driving) around a circuit to the best of the car and driver's ability, then that's super.

 

[fest0r]

All of this "prove it" ego talk is avoiding a serious issue - if drag racers are insistent that drag racing is somehow harder than circuit racing, the onus is on them to provide proof. Not the other way around.

If someone can tell me how tuning (and then driving) to get a fast time in a straight line is more difficult and time consuming than tuning (and then driving) around a circuit to the best of the car and driver's ability, then that's super.

From reading through this thread I didn’t really get the impression that drag racers are trying to say its “harder” than circuit racing (certainly not insistent) and it’s definitely not what the op was trying to say...

"It Takes No Skill To Drag" - Prove it

 

[SlipZtrEm]

From reading through this thread I didn’t really get the impression that drag racers are trying to say its “harder” than circuit racing (certainly not insistent) and it’s definitely not what the op was trying to say...

Fair point in regards to the OP. However:

Drag racing is arguably the hardest thing to do in GT5, and the stats alone show it. Take a circuit tuner to the drag strip just one time, and I bet they have to idea how to set anything up for a straight line.

Again, arguably so.

It takes alot of skill to drag.
Before I started, I had no idea what I was doing. Actually for a good few months of doing it I got the hang of it properly however, I didn't make as much progress as I wanted to.

To people who haven't tried to drag and assume it's easy... It's not. I used to drift alot back in the old days of gt5, and all it required was timing and controlling the throttle and handbrake.

With dragging its completely different.. I am still learning things that I can improve on to make my cars faster, but there will always be someone faster, even though most dragsters hate to admit that.

In Gt5, dragging is the most underrated, competitive sport you can do. When you finally see how long it takes to make that "perfect" tune, you realize how much time you spent on it. It's ****ing very hard to figure out, alot harder then circuit or drifting.

...or basically any portion of Page 4, or page 5.

I should add that I won't ever say drag racing is "easy" - nothing in GT5 is if you wish to be at the upper reaches, be it drifting, dragging, or circuit racing. But considering GT promises perfectly straight launches every time (on flat stretches, like SSRX), by virtue of the entire basis of drag racing, there are far less variables to take into account when tuning. A circuit tuner has to take into account the compromises needed to complete a good lap - they have to focus on how well their car accelerates and puts down power, like a drag racer, while also making sure it's turning ability isn't completely compromised.

Perhaps I didn't say what I wanted to clearly enough - I'm not going to agree with "It Takes No Skill To Drag", but the idea it takes more than other forms of racing in GT5 is the part I find an odd statement. Which admittedly, is not really mentioned in the OP

 

[eightlives]

Perhaps I didn't say what I wanted to clearly enough - I'm not going to agree with "It Takes No Skill To Drag", but the idea it takes more than other forms of racing in GT5 is the part I find an odd statement. Which admittedly, is not really mentioned in the OP

I agree, each part of this game takes work, the point of this thread as far as I knew it was that circuit racers are ones that are saying that drag racing takes no skill.

 

[fest0r]

Slash did stress it was “arguable” (twice) and 180s (an experienced drifter/circuit racer) seemed to be giving his personal experiences of drag racing and that he finds it harder than other disciplines.

It may be a generalisation and it’s certainly just my opinion, but I don’t think there is another area of GT that’s looked down upon more than drag racing… mostly by people who have never actually tried it.

 

[kennyblanco]

Agreed festor and eightlives! The whole point of the op is that people constantly put down drag racing with no knowledge of drag tuning whatsoever. They treat anyone who drags as they are less than them, saying that it takes no skill to drag. I invite anyone who thinks this is true to go to a legit room and be even remotely competitive. The truth is they will be crushed. Tuning for drag racing requires as much skill as tuning for any other aspect of the game. But for some reason we are the bastard children of the gt5 community. The op is simply stating to those who have this view to prove that drag racing requires no skill. If someone thinks it takes no skill to drag then they should easily be able to throw a competitive tune together. Instead people come on here jawjacking and when they get called out they disappear like ghosts.

 

[playnthru]

How about this.. Nothing in GT5 takes any skill. It's a game to played for fun. It is not a simulator, it's a game period. Skill is what it takes to drive a real car, not GT5.

This thread belongs in the Drift section. Where all ego maniacs claim "the greatest".

And yes drag racing in GT5 is easy. Get over it..It proven all day long online. Drag race on Comfort Hards if you want a challenge:tup:

 

[playnthru]

My Camaro was the subject here. Not any Camaro. My car was a Stalled Auto with 28" drag radials. While yes it was fast it was easy to drive fast.

Also note: I ran 1.62 60' with 330ish AWHP compared to that 2.5 you posted. I'd think my knowledge and skill level is at the point you shouldn't argue.


Basics to launching AWD and doing so fast and consistent. Is slipping the clutch. This takes skill. Most couldn't even begin to know how fast to let out. It take time Ina car to know what feels right and being able to compensate in fraction of seconds.

I've also owned 5spd Mustangs on slicks. You literally rev it to launch RPM wait for third yellow and drop he clutch while going WOT. no slipping of clutch.

Almost all RWD bangers on a tire are this way. No RWD worth a lick of salt goes launching on reg hard street tires and expects anything decent from it. Even slipping the clutch.

Even my buddies 750 AWHP Evo that traps 150+ MPH on Slicks requires clutch slippage.

do note. Your are arguing with someone that is heavy into the subject at hand. As in I build parts and cars for racing.

Also anyone that street races a slow car is silly. Let's risk our license making passes in 14-16 sec slugs. Uggggh Give a kid a car and he is Johnny Racer. This is why the older crowd shuns a lot of kids/young adults. Just saying.

So the older crowd shuns the street kids ?? Um the older crowd were the street kids years ago. Remeber how Drag Racing started ?? Kids in SLOW crap cars on the street. I know lots of people that build race cars (in real life). They all think they know everything too, They don't.

 

[OwensRacing]

So the older crowd shuns the street kids ?? Um the older crowd were the street kids years ago. Remeber how Drag Racing started ?? Kids in SLOW crap cars on the street. I know lots of people that build race cars (in real life). They all think they know everything too, They don't.

Reading isn't your strong subject I see.


Anyone that thinks they know everything is a moron. However I do know what I know. Which happens to be pretty vast. Loads of hands on experience. Basically when I share info in a subject it is usually cost me money to earn that knowledge. I try to share and here comes people like you.

Now tell me again why younger people get shunned? A lot. NOT ALL don't wanna listen or show any respect.

This keeps up and all the knowledge will die with the old guys. But yea keep on keep in on player.

 

[playnthru]

Reading isn't your strong subject I see.


Anyone that thinks they know everything is a moron. However I do know what I know. Which happens to be pretty vast. Loads of hands on experience. Basically when I share info in a subject it is usually cost me money to earn that knowledge. I try to share and here comes people like you.

Now tell me again why younger people get shunned? A lot. NOT ALL don't wanna listen or show any respect.

This keeps up and all the knowledge will die with the old guys. But yea keep on keep in on player.

What. I read very well thanks. Read what you wrote. Writing is not you strong subject..

Oh and by the way Jack. I'm not a kid (40 years old). And don't want what you call knowledge. You made it clear you don't know what your talking about. So Stop acting so damn high and mighty.

You wrote they get shunned for one thing now your claiming another. (ADD)? First they are shunned for street racing, now it
's disrespect ?? They are Shunned by OLD FOOLS who forgot how and why racing began.

Respect is earned, not given. Just because you fart dust does not mean you get respect.

How can you insult my reading, when clearly you don't even know what wrote. ? Every thread you write you prove Reading and writing are not your strong suit. How can you attack me when you don't even understand YOU WROTE..

 

[Jabberwack]

Wow, so much drama here

Both are difficult in their own way. It's like saying which is better, Basketball or Football.

 

[eightlives]

Wow, so much drama here

Both are difficult in their own way. It's like saying which is better, Basketball or Football.

We talking American football or what everyone else considers football? LOL

 

[Jabberwack]

We talking American football or what everyone else considers football? LOL

Both would work I guess

 

[icewind098]

simple drag is tune as just tune and press gaz but race and that take corner make it all harder cause you need skill for al that drag oh vrmmmmmm strait line......

 

[Simple Matt]

simple drag is tune as just tune and press gaz but race and that take corner make it all harder cause you need skill for al that drag oh vrmmmmmm strait line......

But then that's not dragging.. That's just making up numbers.. Something I can guarantee you are use to

 

[Tower Turn 13]

Not my cup of tea, but would never bash you guys. Cheers keep racing.

 

[Swara]

simple drag is tune as just tune and press gaz but race and that take corner make it all harder cause you need skill for al that drag oh vrmmmmmm strait line......

Learn how to spell words. :trollface:

 

[kennyblanco]

Learn how to spell words. :trollface:

You don't put gaz in your car?

What does the :trollface: look like? lmao

 

[viperbeatsvette]

Icewind can't even construct a readable sentence, so obviously he doesn't know his stuff.

 

[midnight910]

simple drag is tune as just tune and press gaz but race and that take corner make it all harder cause you need skill for al that drag oh vrmmmmmm strait line......

Prove it....

 

[Slash]

simple drag is tune as just tune and press gaz but race and that take corner make it all harder cause you need skill for al that drag oh vrmmmmmm strait line......

That's how we know you either suck or know nothing about drag racing.

 

[ROYALEFATALE]

why are drag racers so secretive over their tunes? because that's the only thing separating them from being the fastest, circuit tunes aren't hidden like the holy grail because ultimately it comes to driver skill on a real track, simple as that.

 

[Downhill Dino]

You are now going to be pounded by drag racers saying:

Drag Racing: 80% Tune - 20% Driver
Circuit Racing: 20% Tune - 80% Driver

You're kind of only proving their point. Aren't you against them?

 

[ROYALEFATALE]

^^ those numbers aren't in their favor, if they were reversed maybe....

 

[kennyblanco]

^^ those numbers aren't in their favor, if they were reversed maybe....

That makes no sense if you're trying to disprove that drag racing requires any skill. You would then be saying that drag racing is 20% driver and 80% skill.

All that trolling got you confused?

If you're so convinced that it is so easy then why don't you PROVE IT???? Post some of your times with proof. Produce a competitive tune if it is so easy.

I don't get why you people insist that it requires no skill but can't produce a competitive tune. Just a bunch of people with insignificant lives that need to validate themselves by being better than everyone else. And when someone is better than you at something you try to cling onto that last little hope you have of being cool by be-littling their accomplishments, yet you can't hold a candle to their talent. You talk all this big talk about how easy dragging is but no-one has ever seen you on the track. GROW UP!