Whats everybody's thoughts on this , will this become another war?
(EDIT) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16617666
(EDIT) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16617666
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ITV NEWS Argentina plan on re taking the falkland islands
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CodeRedR51
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Umm, links?
Im not sure also cant find the links to ITV news just yet.
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Yup and for many years before, they've been moaning about it for a while. Not that they'll get anywhere, either diplomatically or with weapons.
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But can we actually defend them right now? Yes, we can send in the marines like we did last time, but where is the air power coming from? Last time, the Vulcans did looooong range bombing and Harriers provided air superiority and support. Without the Harriers, the marines would be ripped apart by the Argentinian Air Force.
We have no Vulcans or Harriers any more. We only have one aircraft carrier and it can only take helipcopters. A Tornado could get there, with copious amounts of in flight refuelling, but it would need so many external fuel tanks there'd be no room for weapons.
HMS Conqueror was also invaluable and at least we still have nuclear submarines to send.
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I was going on the assumption that the Falklands had roughly the same defenses that they had in 1982, but I've just noticed that there are 4 Typhoons based there now. Having now had a look at the Argentine Air Force, I'd just like to echo what TheCracker said.
And off topic I know, but the Americans are still operating the B52H and are planning on keeping them in service until 2045. That would indicate that long range bombers are still needed.
And off topic I know, but the Americans are still operating the B52H and are planning on keeping them in service until 2045. That would indicate that long range bombers are still needed.
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Wasn't it made a condition of their surrender last time to give up all claims to the Islands?
If not it should have been.
I suspect this is nothing more than an Argentine government trying to divert its own people's attention from something domestic that they should be more bothered about.
If not it should have been.
I suspect this is nothing more than an Argentine government trying to divert its own people's attention from something domestic that they should be more bothered about.
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I thought the F35-B had gone into service, and upon a quick search, I see that it has not for the RAF. Upon further research, I'm very surprised by how ill-equipped the RAF and Royal Navy are.
Either way, it isn't in America's interest for conflict. I'd imagine that we'd try to settle it before it even began.
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I can't realistically take Argentina as a serious threat, or able to cause a war. If they did cause a war, I will say it wouldn't last very long. They only have a little over 400 aircraft, compared to the U.S. at 18,000. It has been our policy for quite awhile now to stand with Europe, if **** hits the fan we'd be there in one form or another.
I did not mean for that to sound arrogant, just if one of our allies needs help, surely we'd be there.
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I can't realistically take Argentina as a serious threat, or able to cause a war. If they did cause a war, I will say it wouldn't last very long. They only have a little over 400 aircraft, compared to the U.S. at 18,000. It has been our policy for quite awhile now to stand with Europe, if **** hits the fan we'd be there in one form or another.
I did not mean for that to sound arrogant, just if one of our allies needs help, surely we'd be there.
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Cruise missiles need reprogramming to hit a target that has moved. And with the expense and payload size, they're an inefficient way to go after mobile land forces.
Can I claim against the local government that I wish my house to remain a US Territory? I mean, it was about seventy years ago... and I am an American citizen. Can the US Government come liberate me from my colonial oppressors?
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Cruise missiles need reprogramming to hit a target that has moved. And with the expense and payload size, they're an inefficient way to go after mobile land forces.
Can I claim against the local government that I wish my house to remain a US Territory? I mean, it was about seventy years ago... and I am an American citizen. Can the US Government come liberate me from my colonial oppressors?
Maybe cruise missiles from the 1970's
Modern cruise missiles can indeed hit moving targets. Best example of this is the BGM-109 Tomahawk, which both the US Navy and Royal Navy use. It has multiple guidance systems to allow it to hit anything from a bunker to a moving convoy. And a Tomahawk is modular, which allows payloads ranging form a 1000 lb unitary warhead to a cluster type anti-vehicle warhead.
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Maybe cruise missiles from the 1970's
Modern cruise missiles can indeed hit moving targets. Best example of this is the BGM-109 Tomahawk, which both the US Navy and Royal Navy use. It has multiple guidance systems to allow it to hit anything from a bunker to a moving convoy. And a Tomahawk is modular, which allows payloads ranging form a 1000 lb unitary warhead to a cluster type anti-vehicle warhead.
Yeah... how much do Tomahawks cost again? About a million bucks a shot? That's going to work real swell in a full-on war if that's all you're using...
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Plus i'm not even sure the Americans and other Western powers would bother supporting us at the moment, they see us as being colonialist in keeping the Falklands, and the French are seriously not happy with us at the moment. So we'd be by ourselves in another dispute. Note the Argentinian claims to the islands have stepped up since we started hunting and finding oil around the isles.
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It is in British hands, the residents' of the Falklands want it to stay this way. If they no longer want British rule, I'm sure talks would take place.
However, there is potential for a hell of lot of oil to be produced in that area, so it might not be as straightforward as that. Nor should it be.
However, there is potential for a hell of lot of oil to be produced in that area, so it might not be as straightforward as that. Nor should it be.
