Jaguar F-Type. Damn.

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I always considered the V6 the best sounding of the range due to those pops and bangs but then I'm a bit of a pleb. :lol:

Oh, I like the pops and bangs as much as anyone, it would just be nice to have an intake sound six to differentiate it from the modern performance trend.
 
New photos of the facelift

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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1123914_2021-jaguar-f-type-convertible-spy-shots-and-video

As for mechanical updates, Jaguar is expected to finally ditch the supercharged V-6 currently used in the F-Type in favor of an electrified inline-6 that's already been announced by Land Rover for some 2020 models. In the 2020 Range Rover, the powertrain offers outputs of 355 horsepower and 365 pound-feet of torque in P360 guise and 395 hp and 406 lb-ft in P400 guise.

The powertrain is a mild-hybrid setup combining a 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 with a beefed-up electric starter motor that can aid the engine during high loads and recover energy under braking and coasting. There's also an electric compressor that helps build boost pressure before revs rise and the conventional turbocharger takes over.

Unfortunately, the replacement of the old V-6 may mean the end of a manual transmission in the F-Type, as the engine is the sole unit currently offered with the 3-pedal option.

The car will be unveiled on December 2nd
 
I'll withhold judgement, as I do, until it's revealed fully, however I do so hope it's the camouflage making that front end look like that of an early Audi TT with tacky plastic headlight eyelids and a gapier (if it wasn't a word in this context before, it is now) maw.
 
To me it looks like it has the same kind of set-up as the F30 3-series; the top edge of the bumper runs across the headlight units.
 
I don't hate it, but it really normalises the car to bring it in line with the rest of the range (which is clearly the point of course) in a way that it loses any sense of distinction the original had. From the front it's any other car in the range now.... eh.
 
I still can't comment on the car because those pictures look like thumbnails that have been enlarged with MS Paint.
 
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Is this an old picture? - the back hasn't changed at all.
Slightly different tail lights. They’ve been squared off at the bottom and I think the actually lighting part is differently oriented as well. The rear of the old model is basically perfect anyways, so you can’t be too upset about it :lol:
 
Slightly different tail lights. They’ve been squared off at the bottom and I think the actually lighting part is differently oriented as well. The rear of the old model is basically perfect anyways, so you can’t be too upset about it :lol:

The shape of the number plate area has changed too, but yeah, little more than a slight freshen-up at the back. Like you say, if it ain't broken...
 
My dad and I were at the NY Int'l Auto Show this past year, and we had some issues with the F-Type's design:

-The way to open the trunk isn't by lifting the latch you'd see on every other vehicle, but apparently is by pressing this button far off to the side on the rear bumper.

-Once the trunk is open, there's the hole for the windshield wiper fluid in the back, surrounded by the carpeting, despite the fact that the car only has wipers in the front, and you'd potentially run the risk of spilling fluid on the carpet, and thus staining it. At least, as far as we could tell. And we're not exactly in the market for L-DOPA, if you get my drift.

It's really too bad because I do really like the F-Type's general silhouette. At a glance, it's a great modern reinterpretation of the classic E-Type. But this is in spite of the design "quirks" mentioned above, rather than because of them.
 
My dad and I were at the NY Int'l Auto Show this past year, and we had some issues with the F-Type's design:

-The way to open the trunk isn't by lifting the latch you'd see on every other vehicle, but apparently is by pressing this button far off to the side on the rear bumper.

-Once the trunk is open, there's the hole for the windshield wiper fluid in the back, surrounded by the carpeting, despite the fact that the car only has wipers in the front, and you'd potentially run the risk of spilling fluid on the carpet, and thus staining it. At least, as far as we could tell. And we're not exactly in the market for L-DOPA, if you get my drift.

It's really too bad because I do really like the F-Type's general silhouette. At a glance, it's a great modern reinterpretation of the classic E-Type. But this is in spite of the design "quirks" mentioned above, rather than because of them.

These seem like extremely minor quirks to effectively write off a design for...

My Porsche has it's coolant reservoir and oil fill tube in the carpeted trunk. I haven't spilled any anti-freeze or oil in there.
 
Looking at the pre- & new, I think I like the original design more. Something about that headlight design trying to give the car this super intimidating look isn't as appealing, imo.
 
Looking at the pre- & new, I think I like the original design more. Something about that headlight design trying to give the car this super intimidating look isn't as appealing, imo.
It looks like an Audi.

Lost all its character in the facelift, went from beauty to meh imho
 
Everyone always likes the original more. There are reasons for that; one is we hate change. The other is that they usually complicate the design with the facelift, whereas the original is more pure.

Looks to continue the trend of really bad hood leading edge shut lines. :ouch:

I think it has with pedestrian safety. More and more cars have these funky hood leading edges/bumpers that stick out.
 
Everyone always likes the original more. There are reasons for that; one is we hate change. The other is that they usually complicate the design with the facelift, whereas the original is more pure.

Maybe. For me...I never quite got excited about the original car. I always found it an attractive car, beautiful even, but I wasn't attracted to it - it somehow doesn't do much for me. The new one...might be marginally more appealing but still leaves me cold somehow. Why does an Aston Martin V8 Vantage get me excited...but the F-Type doesn't? I really can't explain it. Maybe I've held the F-Type at arms length assuming it would be an expensive, unreliable car with too much emphasis on its brash V8 soundtrack? Is a V6S 6M really an ideal car for me that's in striking distance of affordability? Maybe. Or maybe I'm turned off by the hype and it will take a little age for me to appreciate it? Maybe I've gone off topic? Certainly.

I think it has with pedestrian safety. More and more cars have these funky hood leading edges/bumpers that stick out.

I actually had not thought of that. I assumed it was some sort of production simplification/value engineering thing. Maybe it's both. Either way, more and more designs are succumbing to it and I cannot unsee it. The F10 3 series was the worst I've seen, but many are not far off. Mazda has I think seen the error of its ways with the previous 3 and pulled in the hood and radiused its corners in the newest model. It's when the shutline slams into the headlight at an oblique angle that its the worst.
 
I think it has with pedestrian safety. More and more cars have these funky hood leading edges/bumpers that stick out.
The leading edge of the facelifted F-Type doesn't appear to be any farther back, at least not meaningfully, than that of the outgoing car.

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I think the issue I have is with how the hood interacts with the headlights. The earlier car's hood is nestled between the lights more, making it appear longer, while the facelifted car's hood just kind of plops right down on top of the lights.

I hadn't realized before the side-by-side comparison, but I'm in a weird place with the new look. While I think the lights themselves are a giant leap back, I'm really kind of loving everything that's going on beneath them.
 
The leading edge of the facelifted F-Type doesn't appear to be any farther back, at least not meaningfully, than that of the outgoing car.

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I think the issue I have is with how the hood interacts with the headlights. The earlier car's hood is nestled between the lights more, making it appear longer, while the facelifted car's hood just kind of plops right down on top of the lights.

I hadn't realized before the side-by-side comparison, but I'm in a weird place with the new look. While I think the lights themselves are a giant leap back, I'm really kind of loving everything that's going on beneath them.


The new version I think has a more exotic presence. It feels lower and wider even if it isn't.
 
The new version I think has a more exotic presence. It feels lower and wider even if it isn't.
Sure, I think it accomplishes that not only with the shorter, wider headlights but by pushing the corner openings right up to them and finishing the splitter area in body color. But I don't think that lower and wider presence is a good thing by default. I find the outgoing car to be a lot more graceful, and grace has been such a defining feature for the marque, not to mention the spiritual predecessor to the F.
 
The previous style Jaguar F-Type is very lovely, and remains so today. This facelift? You know... I actually like this facelift a bit more than the previous design. I admire the mean design up front. That's not to say the F-Type needed an injection of character. However, it now has some mean character with that mean front end. What I also wonder is if the trickle-down effect will go into the F-Pace and perhaps a few other Jaguar models.

I wouldn't give this design an "A+," but I will give it a very strong "A" grade.
 
After much thought, I’ve decided that this facelift is a bit of a disappointment. I think the old car is much more elegant and prettier. The new one definitely looks good, but my favourite thing about the old car was it’s aggressive elegance. This new car misses that mark for me.
 
Good. I don't care how quick it is, a four cylinder expensive sports car is just wrong.
 
F-Type ZP Edition, probably the final special edition of the F-Type. Only 150 will be made


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Say hello to the 2024 Jaguar F-Type ZP Edition, packing a supercharged V8 under the hood for one last dance before the electric revolution.

Solely an appearance package for the coupe or convertible, Jaguar turns to its SV Bespoke group to enhance both the outside and the inside of this limited-production F-Type. It starts on the outside with two color options borrowing from the early days of the classic E-Type: Oulton Blue Gloss or Crystal Grey Gloss. Choose blue and you'll get a two-tone interior awash with red and black, while the gray Jag comes with a blue/black combo. Jaguar says these colors have never been offered on the F-Type before.

No matter which color you choose, hand-painted roundels adorn the doors in bright white, honoring the E-Type race cars that campaigned shortly after the model's 1961 launch. The grille surrounds are also white, and each F-Type ZP Edition rides on 20-inch wheels with black inserts. Additional black trim is found in the interior, and of course you get special badging that identifies the car as a special model. You'll find it down low on the fenders, the door sills, and inside on the dash. There's also a special plaque identifying the specific production number between 1 and 150.

Starting in 2025, Jaguar remains committed to launching only electric vehicles.
 
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