January Car of the Month - Skyline GT-R (R33)!! - Join in the Fun!!

[TurnLeft]

@Rush471

Here we go, new year, new month, new cars. There will only be one challenge for this month.

RULES & REGULATIONS
ONLY valid laps should be counted, luckily there are quite a few places here you slide off the road without being disqualified, but it may not be the fastest way around the track.

TRACK: Nurbugring GP/D

Car Setup
Sports Hard tires for all cars.
Tuned as the reviewed car.

Drivers Option
Driving Line: Optional
Blind Spot Indicator: you’ll definitely need this.
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM) : OFF
ABS: 0 of course.
Skid Recovery Force: 0

Course Settings
Time: 23:50
Time Progression: 1
Weather at Race Start: 100%
Weather Changeability: 0
Surface Water at Race Start: 100%
Grip Reduction: Real

My best time so far in the challenges, the aero kits help quite a bit. My time is 2:06.585
Good luck

 

[TurnLeft]

@Thorin Cain
@Bowtie-muscle could you please include this in your index, I know you've been really busy, so no rush and i'll erase this after.👍
Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '97 500PP CS - NO ABS - NO AIDS -
First off, I have to give you credit for having a lot of courage for putting this up , no aids whatsoever. I did try it at Ascari with CS and no aids but the problem was the CS + 500PP it was just not fast enough, but after giving it a proper test I will head back there but with SS and no aids and we’ll see what can be done.

To try it out I needed some kind of competition, Int.B Japan Tour seemed right, I used the Suzuka track because of the S’s and variety of curves. Also did the Nat.A 500PP Clubman Cup - Mount Panorama

Braking: ABS/0, I’ve said it before that people make too much of a fuss with this, when tuned right you will never skid or lock wheels, when done wrong you’ll think you were part of Stars On Ice. The one thing that I like about abs/0 is that if you perceive braking more as a speed reduction than as braking per say you will never be in trouble, it will also help you find some better driving lines since you will be slowing down earlier to put yourself in position for entering/exiting the curve, by doing so you reduce the weight transfer from rear to front, and for god’s sake I’M NOT SAYING YOU WILL BE FASTER WITH ABS/0, but if you apply those lines to abs/1 after, you might find you’ve gained a bit of time.

So how was your car tuned for abs/0, EXCELLENT 👍👍👍

Just a thought that has bugged me for a long time, why abs /0 or 1, what happened to 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 . I know of one tuner who uses these effectively for TT’s, I think we should at least try these to get better handling cars. BTW thanks to @xande1959 for showing me the brighter side of tuning with abs/all.


Suspension: I think there’s a little more room to go with the spring rates and ARB, in the S’s the car did wobble and had a tendency to slide sideways, could have been I max out the available tire grip, but I really think you should try a little stiffer, and try different F/R ratios. It handles well but with CS, the weight of the car plus the speed you can reach you sometimes thread on the line of disaster .


MLSD: It went unnoticed , can’t say anything about it . So that’s good .


Transmission: Well it worked right, when I put it in 2nd gear it went to 2nd gear . Ya I know that’s not the kind of thing people want to know, but you always seem to be in the right power band from gears 3 and up. (Don't know what happened to 1st & 2nd gear )


Conclusion: For going on a path that very few tuners venture, and this being your first one in this domain, excellent. As a tune for what it is I’d say it was good+👍👍. Now let’s go have some fun and beat those super cars with abs0 - no drivers aid but with SS .

Super - Ascari 10 Lap Challenge

Lap 1
Time: 2:18.670
Position: 9

Lap 2
Time: 2:20.876
Position: 3

Lap 3
Time: 2:19.798
Position: 2

Lap 4
Time: 2:22.810
Position: 1

Lap 5
Time: 2:24.591
Position: 1

Tire Wear
Front: 6 / 5
Rear:7 / 7
Refuel 27L


Lap 6
Time: 2:39.236
Position: 1

Lap 7
Time: 2:19.143
Position: 1

Lap 8
Time: 2:18.670
Position: 1

Lap 9
Time: 2:19.074
Position: 1

Lap 10
Time: ???
Position: Winner

Tire Wear
Front: 6 / 5
Rear: 7 / 7
Refuel: 27L

Total Time: 23:58.178
Lead By: 1:00.118

Something to ponder on or to test, the tire wear was very low compared to the rest of the cars tested here, does abs/1 eat up the tires, if you ever get the chance to try it with abs/0 than abs/1 (tuned as you would normally) it could give us some indication as to what brakes can do to tire wear . Also the lap times are similar to the rest of the cars at 500PP tested here, so where’s the loss 💡 ? (PS @Ridox2JZGTE is going to have a field day with this )

Great job

2xPS: I'll do your challenge tomorrow.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

@Thorin Cain
@Bowtie-muscle could you please include this in your index, I know you've been really busy, so no rush and i'll erase this after.👍




Great job

2xPS: I'll do your challenge tomorrow.

I am 99% sure I have them all, just have not gotten to all the challenges, but I will.(Sorry it is taking so long)

 

[TurnLeft]

I am 99% sure I have them all, just have not gotten to all the challenges, but I will.(Sorry it is taking so long)

Hey there's no fire , I fully understand about being busy , I promised a few people things today and it's almost over and I just can't see how I'm going to do it , so if it's not today I'm sure we can all understand 👍.

 

[Thorin Cain]

First off, I have to give you credit for having a lot of courage for putting this up , no aids whatsoever. I did try it at Ascari with CS and no aids but the problem was the CS + 500PP it was just not fast enough, but after giving it a proper test I will head back there but with SS and no aids and we’ll see what can be done.

Thank you , not so much about courage as perhaps a little . But nothing new there and what's the worst that could happen, right!?

Braking: ABS/0, I’ve said it before that people make too much of a fuss with this, when tuned right you will never skid or lock wheels, when done wrong you’ll think you were part of Stars On Ice. The one thing that I like about abs/0 is that if you perceive braking more as a speed reduction than as braking per say you will never be in trouble, it will also help you find some better driving lines since you will be slowing down earlier to put yourself in position for entering/exiting the curve, by doing so you reduce the weight transfer from rear to front, and for god’s sake I’M NOT SAYING YOU WILL BE FASTER WITH ABS/0, but if you apply those lines to abs/1 after, you might find you’ve gained a bit of time.

So how was your car tuned for abs/0, EXCELLENT 👍👍👍

Just a thought that has bugged me for a long time, why abs /0 or 1, what happened to 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 . I know of one tuner who uses these effectively for TT’s, I think we should at least try these to get better handling cars. BTW thanks to @xande1959 for showing me the brighter side of tuning with abs/all.

You know I was a bit apprehensive about the whole idea even though I'm going to have to get use to it, and there is something about it I really like. It does mean having to slow down a bit earlier, so perhaps not the best for those crazy on-line races where everyone thinks they can out-brake everyone else. But It does have it's advantages as you say. I don't think I'll switch over permanently though, ABS does have it's advantages too, and if treated as a tuning option can make a HUGE difference in your laptimes.

Suspension: I think there’s a little more room to go with the spring rates and ARB, in the S’s the car did wobble and had a tendency to slide sideways, could have been I max out the available tire grip, but I really think you should try a little stiffer, and try different F/R ratios. It handles well but with CS, the weight of the car plus the speed you can reach you sometimes thread on the line of disaster .

Noted. 👍

MLSD: It went unnoticed , can’t say anything about it . So that’s good .

And I thought That was the weak point, oh well....

Transmission: Well it worked right, when I put it in 2nd gear it went to 2nd gear . Ya I know that’s not the kind of thing people want to know, but you always seem to be in the right power band from gears 3 and up. (Don't know what happened to 1st & 2nd gear )

I think this may be due to my last change to the Torque Diff, I had issues in some lower speed corners and adjusted them for it. then ended up moving more power forward. I'll have a little look-see. 👍

Conclusion: For going on a path that very few tuners venture, and this being your first one in this domain, excellent. As a tune for what it is I’d say it was good+👍👍. Now let’s go have some fun and beat those super cars with abs0 - no drivers aid but with SS .

Well, Thanks and I'm glad you're still around to tell the tale

Super - Ascari 10 Lap Challenge

Tire Wear
Front: 6 / 5
Rear: 7 / 7
Refuel: 27L

Total Time: 23:58.178
Lead By: 1:00.118

Something to ponder on or to test, the tire wear was very low compared to the rest of the cars tested here, does abs/1 eat up the tires, if you ever get the chance to try it with abs/0 than abs/1 (tuned as you would normally) it could give us some indication as to what brakes can do to tire wear . Also the lap times are similar to the rest of the cars at 500PP tested here, so where’s the loss 💡 ? (PS @Ridox2JZGTE is going to have a field day with this )

I seem to be seeing a pattern here with the tyre wear, that's two in a row now. Although I'd like to see how the CS tyres faired in the same situation, not so well I'd imagine In fact I think I'll add it to my ever growing to-to list and take it for a spin to find out. I thought he could do with the company on the CS tyres and no ABS, but I see he brought the POWER. I'll put my minnow back in the pond now

2xPS: I'll do your challenge tomorrow.

Yeah about that...Do you want your praise now or later?

Thanks for the feedback, I should have probably waited and tried something I'm a bit more comfortable with than a big 4WD to do this with but it was fun and informative none the less. As was the review! 👍

 

[danbojte]

the tire wear was very low compared to the rest of the cars tested here

The tyre wear has very much in common with the car's setup (tune) overall, besides the braking and driving style, of course. And no, I don't think ABS: 1 eats the tyres faster.

 

[TurnLeft]

@Thorin Cain

Here we go, new year, new month, new cars.

RULES & REGULATIONS
ONLY valid laps should be counted, luckily there are quite a few places here you slide off the road without being disqualified, but it may not be the fastest way around the track.

TRACK: Nurbugring GP/D

Car Setup
Sports Hard tires for all cars.
Tuned as the reviewed car.

Drivers Option
Driving Line: Optional
Blind Spot Indicator: you’ll definitely need this.
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM) : OFF
ABS: 0 of course.
Skid Recovery Force: 0

Course Settings
Time: 23:50
Time Progression: 1
Weather at Race Start: 100%
Weather Changeability: 0
Surface Water at Race Start: 100%
Grip Reduction: Real

You will find that having tuned your brakes for abs/0 will help a lot here, even in the rain, but you'll discover some inherent qualities from your other tuning sections that will spice things up.

My time 2:09.493

 

[Rush471]

@Rush471
Skyline R33 Touring Car 600 pp (RH)

If I have the choice between a normal car or a race car to review, I’ll always pick the normal car. I have enough trouble tuning a regular car that adding aero just adds up to too much for me to analyze for now. I also think that I’m not good enough driver to fully utilize the full potential of the car. This also makes it hard to analyze a tuning, I find that Race cars for the most part are already well tuned, I just have to learn how to drive them properly, my only exception so far is the Toyota One, that one needs to be tuned, the test pilot was killed in an accident with it and the project was scrapped, great potential, super dangerous. That all being said I will test and review your car, but what I will say can only be applied to my way of driving.


Super Brands Hatch 15-Lap Challenge : Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit

Big decision to make, there is tire wear on this track plus it’s going to rain. My strategy is to start with RS and gain up as much time and pit when the tires start showing up signs of too much wear, if I make it to past the halfway point I’ll put back RS if not I’ll use RH to finish. I know they will pit at least once, just don’t remember when. If it gets to slippery I’m screwed because I didn’t buy Intermediates for the race .

Lap 1
L.Time: 1:25.226
Difference:+15.771
Position:13
The car handles well, hugs the road like if it was on rails.

Lap 2
L.Time: 1:24.652
Difference: +10.192
Position: 9
Started to rain, tires seem to be warmed up because I’m getting more grip in the curves.
In and out of curves there is no problem.

Lap 3
L.Time: 1:24.122
Difference: +3.960
Position: 6
Still raining and I see no difference. Braking is very even and balanced.

Lap 4
L.Time: 1:26.253
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1

Lap 5
L.Time: 1:25.983
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1
The car is starting to turn much wider, front left tire down to 4,

Lap 6
L.Time: 1:54.175
Difference: ?
Position: 15

Tire Wear RS
Front:3/6
Rear: 8/9
Refuel: 64L


Lap 7
L.Time: 1:28.373
Difference: +19.834
Position: 13
Lap times slower with RH, but still very easy to drive.

Lap 8
L.Time: 1:25.734
Difference: +17.854
Position: 9

Lap 9
L.Time:
Difference: 1:24.791
Position: 8
Crashed just after the start line when trying to pass on the inside. Bad move of my part.


Lap 10
L.Time: 1:31.870
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1
Almost everybody in for the pit stop. accelerating hard out of curves can give a kick in the same direction you were turning when you straighten out the wheels.

Lap 11
L.Time: 1:27.889
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1

Lap 12
L.Time: 1:29.844
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1

Lap 13
L.Time: 1:27.994
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1

Lap 14
L.Time: 1:26.921
Difference: 0.000
Position: 1

Lap 15
L.Time: 1:29.688
Difference: 0.000
Position: Winner

Tire Wear RH
Front: 6 / 7
Rear: 9 / 9

Total time: 22:31.631
Final Lead: 1:04.200

Conclusion: The car handles great, easy to handle, brake, turn, accelerate, for any fault that I may find I could also deduce that I didn't approach that segment properly. Nice job sir.👍

Thank you for another great review! I will have my time for the challenge soon!


EDIT: I have my time! 2:06.076

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Settings used:

- No Aids, ABS: 0 (Brake Balance 1/4),
- Tyres - Sports: Soft
- Specs unchanged.
​

Super Class|Willow Springs 20-Mile Challenge
Normal cars|650 PP or less|Sports: Soft tires or less

View attachment 293187

Lap 6 - Taking the lead


View attachment 293188

The Finish Line


Race Info:

- Won by: 00.050 sec.,
- Total race time: 11:40.966 min.,
- Replay available.
​

Car Info:

- Millage: 1,210.2 km (312 km before this challenge) ,
- Oil changes: 3,
- Body rigidity restoration: 1.​

Tips:

- Don't enter with full speed to the pits! You'll get 10 seconds (I think) penalty,
- I pitted at lap 4 (half race).
​

Dedicated to my friends @TurnLeft and @Ridox2JZGTE

Many thanks to Polyphony Digital. 👍

Thank you for your sacrifice in time and energy just to win the race You spent close to 1000km driving to win It must be such a difficult task to maintain tire wear with such a fat car at 1500+kg Did you used 2.0 front camber on this win ? Still can't believe you won it on 0.050 gap, that's very close ... The Enzo and Veyron must be hard on your tail

Oops, just read the specs unchanged

 

[danbojte]

Thank you for your sacrifice in time and energy just to win the race You spent close to 1000km driving to win It must be such a difficult task to maintain tire wear with such a fat car at 1500+kg Did you used 2.0 front camber on this win ? Still can't believe you won it on 0.050 gap, that's very close ... The Enzo and Veyron must be hard on your tail

Oops, just read the specs unchanged

Yes, specs unchanged. Thank you. It was my pleasure. The Enzo was the harder to deal with. Maybe you'll watch the replay if you can offer yourself some relaxation time. 👍

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Yes, specs unchanged. Thank you. It was my pleasure. The Enzo was the harder to deal with. Maybe you'll watch the replay if you can offer yourself some relaxation time. 👍

I'll download the replay, not sure if I can view it on 1.09, but I'll give it a go.

For tire wear, no ABS or ABS 1 setting alone are not really affecting tire wear, but the driving pace/style that comes with having no ABS or ABS 1 that has greater effect on tire wear, brake masher or smooth trail braking will give different wear on tire. Someone who can be smooth on no ABS will have more life from the tire than someone on ABS 1 but likes to drive aggressively when braking or corner entry.

For the R33, I think weight and distribution has major effect on tire wear. More front heavy and overall heavier car will hurt the tire more almost in every action, from braking, cornering and exiting a corner. Compound that with higher torque and power of car with over 800HP

LSD with low preload and locking rate can also help minimizing tire wear as it will be much easier to drive compared to more lock and preload often used IRL that requires precise throttle and steering. For example : IRL, RUF BTR comes from factory standard with 60% lock rear LSD and quite high preload/initial common in 70's to 80's Porsches, while in modern time competition Porsche 911 GT3 RSR has base 45% lock on power/drive and 65% on coast/overrun with 60 to 80 lb ft preload - similar to NISMO GT LSD preload.

 

[TurnLeft]

Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec (R33) '97​

View attachment 288634 +​

For this one I change my approach to make the tune and strip out all the weight.
As @Bowtie-muscle said

and also give unpredictable and annoying move with a important mass transfer. I work it on Apricot Hill seasonal (best lap 1 30' 040”) also on Tsukuba (best lap 0 59' 636) Bran Hatch GP (best lap 1 33' 930)


Setup

500PP
Power 382 Hp
Torque 493 Nm
Weight 1 232 Kg
Weight Distribution 54:46
Tires Sport soft
Wheel Size: Standard

Car details

Change Oil - Improve Body Rigidity
Suspension Kit: Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension / Racing Brake Kit / Fully-Customizable Mechanical Limited-Slip Differential / Torque-Distributing Center Differential / Triple-Plate Clutch Kit / Carbon Fiber Driveshaft / Transmission: Fully-Customizable Transmission
Power limiter : 98.8% / Engine: Standard / Sports ECU / Turbo Kits: None
Weight Reduction:
Stage 3 / Carbon Hood/ Window Weight Reduction

F / R
Ride height 96 / 100
Spring Rate 5.50 / 5.30
Damper Compression 5 / 4
Damper Extension 3 / 4
Anti-Roll Bars 5 / 6
Camber Angle 1.1 / 0.8
Toe Angle -0.02 / .0.08
Brake Balance 5 / 5

LSD
Initial Torque 8 / 10
Acceleration Sensitivity 21 /24
Braking Sensitivity 15 / 10
Torque Distribution 36:64

Wings / Ballast
Down-force 0 / 40
Ballast Position 0
Ballast Weight 000 kg

I don't know if I miss read something but I come up with 490PP/352HP, can you check on your side to see if anything is missing? Thanks,

 

[demonchilde]

TurnLeft, thanks for the review, with all that was going on I missed this notification some how.
I see and agree with everything you said.
What was happening to me on this car, was overthought.
I'll explain quick.
Everytime I made a change, I ran 3 laps to test it.
But every time I was done I thought "well maybe I will tweak this a tiny bit...."
3 laps......
maybe this.......
I did that until my car had over 50 thousand cadrillion miles, lol.
I eventually hit a point where I said enough. Its not perfect, but no tune ever is. But even with its shortcomings I am still tweaking, I still took first every run, so good enough for me^^

edit, that last part of the sentence got cut off when i posted for some reason

 

[mgo]

I don't know if I miss read something but I come up with 490PP/352HP, can you check on your side to see if anything is missing? Thanks,

yes you are right I forgot to mention Intake Tuning in car details.
Sorry I'll update the post. 👍

Setup

500PP
Power 382 Hp
Torque 493 Nm
Weight 1 232 Kg
Weight Distribution 54:46
Tires Sport soft
Wheel Size: Standard

Car details

Change Oil - Improve Body Rigidity
Suspension Kit: Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension / Racing Brake Kit / Fully-Customizable Mechanical Limited-Slip Differential / Torque-Distributing Center Differential / Triple-Plate Clutch Kit / Carbon Fiber Driveshaft / Transmission: Fully-Customizable Transmission
Power limiter : 98.8% / Engine: Standard / Sports ECU / Intake Tuning / Turbo Kits: None
Weight Reduction:
Stage 3 / Carbon Hood/ Window Weight Reduction

 

[TurnLeft]

yes you are right I forgot to mention Intake Tuning in car details.
Sorry I'll update the post. 👍

Setup

500PP
Power 382 Hp
Torque 493 Nm
Weight 1 232 Kg
Weight Distribution 54:46
Tires Sport soft
Wheel Size: Standard

Car details

Change Oil - Improve Body Rigidity
Suspension Kit: Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension / Racing Brake Kit / Fully-Customizable Mechanical Limited-Slip Differential / Torque-Distributing Center Differential / Triple-Plate Clutch Kit / Carbon Fiber Driveshaft / Transmission: Fully-Customizable Transmission
Power limiter : 98.8% / Engine: Standard / Sports ECU / Intake Tuning / Turbo Kits: None
Weight Reduction:
Stage 3 / Carbon Hood/ Window Weight Reduction

With a little luck I should get to do this tomorrow or saturday,.

 

[xande1959]

@xande1959
NISSAN SKYLINE GT-R V.spec (R33)'97 - 500PP / SS - Review

Super - Ascari Resort 10-Lap Challenge

Lap 1
2:20.977
+12.985
Position 7
Gives impression of being very fast. Feels solid but you can lose the rear if the curves are taken to hard.


Lap 2
2:17.791
+5.786
Position 5
Front rear balance is very good. It has a little oversteer in very fast curves. It seems a bit slow on the brakes.

Lap 3
2:20.137
+4.358
Position 2
Changing lanes to pass cars is very easy, just after the start line at the curves after the ‘S’ , an MP4 came back on the track from behind the green wall on the right side. It was completely hidden and appeared just as I came by, had to brake and change lane in an emergency, made it with out touching but lost some time there.


Lap 4
2:21.188
0.000
Position 1
Out of curve acceleration is good. I’m still having trouble finding the right braking spot, old habits die hard.

Lap 5
2:31.276
0.000
Position 1

Tire Wear
Front: 3 / 3
Rear: 7 / 7
Refuel: ? L ( missed that one )
The feel is very smooth. Since I am first I will try pushing it less hard to save on the tires and maybe get a better best lap time.

Lap 6
2:45.002
0.000
Position 1

Lap 7
2:18.188
0.000
Position 1

Lap 8
2:21.433
0.000
Position 1

Lap 9
2:19.847
0.000
Position 1

Lap 10
2:19.420
0.000
Position 1


Tire Wear
Front: 4 / 4
Rear: 7 / 7

Total Time: 24:08.422
Lead Time: 54.509


Overall very good tune 👍👍👍. On my last 5 laps I found some good braking zones and lines and except for lap 8 my lap times stayed pretty close even if the tires were degrading, this shows how well balanced the car is. Great job mister View attachment 293224.

- thanks again. Commendable your test. but I agree with Mr. Frank. brake that car and a problem

 

[xande1959]

Just a thought that has bugged me for a long time, why abs /0 or 1, what happened to 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 . I know of one tuner who uses these effectively for TT’s, I think we should at least try these to get better handling cars. BTW thanks to @xande1959 for showing me the brighter side of tuning with abs/all.

- have a tuner "AngHeel" it uses the very low numbers of brakes. usually 2/1 or 1/2 and ABS 1

 

[TurnLeft]

@mgo

Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V・spec (R33) '97
For this one I change my approach to make the tune and strip out all the weight.

First time I try one of your tunes ( I think ?) I write what I perceive may it be right or wrong, so take what you think is right and forget the rest was ever written.

Super - Ascari Resort 10-Lap Challenge

Lap 1
2:23.698
+???
Position 12

I’m finding I’m lacking speed, could be the stock transmission. Missed the time difference because the Mc F1 kept bumping me.

Lap 2
2:19.767
+8.665
Position 6

Front rear balance is good, there is a bit of sideway motion when turning, car pushes out. Brake balance works well.

Lap 3
2:20.891
+4.814
Position 4

Lack braking power, especially for emergency braking from ahead AI driver deciding it’s time to change lane just as you go to pass.

Lap 4
2:21.895
0.000
Position 1

Turn in seem a bit slow, but those are just impressions since my lap times seem similar to other tunes I tried here.

Lap 5
2:31.468
0.000
Position 1

Tire Wear
Front: 3 / 3
Rear: 7 / 7
Refuel: ? L

Out of curves has to be taken with the right type of line or the front will fight with the rear.

Lap 6
2:37.608
0.000
Position 1

Lap 7
2:17.132
0.000
Position 1

It’s taken me a little while to get the hang of it, but this is a good lap time, braking has to be done early, very easy to over power the car in curves so throttle control is a must.

Lap 8
2:18.626
0.000
Position 1

Lap 9
2:118.768
0.000
Position 1

Lap 10
2:21.036
0.000
Position 1

Tire Wear
Front: 4 / 4
Rear: 7 / 7

Total Time: 24:04.155
Lead Time: 1:00.019

At the beginning I thought this car was slow, well it’s not, it’s right there with the others. It could be due to the fact that I hadn’t driven here for a while, and that I’ve been driving a lot with an over powered Jag for some obscure tests and a GT300 (which I’m forbidden to reveal), so driving back on this car and testing it after a 12 hour shift at work may have made think in a certain way at the start. But by the end I was convinced that you did a real good job, nice tune and keep up the good work.👍👍👍

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I only have myself and @Ridox2JZGTE giving lap times for the Bowtie's Games Challenge.

 

[Thorin Cain]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I only have myself and @Ridox2JZGTE giving lap times for the Bowtie's Games Challenge.

Yeah, sorry about that. I had my first day off in ages yesterday and spent most of it

I'll get to it later today, just need to nip out for a bit. I'll have some good time later to get some

done.

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Yeah, sorry about that. I had my first day off in ages yesterday and spent most of it

I'll get to it later today, just need to nip out for a bit. I'll have some good time later to get some

done.

Was not really trying to push anyone, just checking if I missed someone. If (and when) I get time off, a nap always wins before play time.

 

[TurnLeft]

@mgo

Here we go, new year, new month, new cars.

RULES & REGULATIONS
ONLY valid laps should be counted, luckily there are quite a few places here you slide off the road without being disqualified, but it may not be the fastest way around the track.

TRACK: Nurbugring GP/D

Car Setup
Sports Hard tires for all cars.
Tuned as the reviewed car.

Drivers Option
Driving Line: Optional
Blind Spot Indicator: you’ll definitely need this.
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM) : OFF
ABS: 0 of course.
Skid Recovery Force: 0

Course Settings
Time: 23:50
Time Progression: 1
Weather at Race Start: 100%
Weather Changeability: 0
Surface Water at Race Start: 100%
Grip Reduction: Real

First 2 laps i was much too heavy on the brakes, I wish their was an adjustment for the PS3 controller joy stick input curve , anyways back to our regular broadcast, my best lap time was 2:11.029 , good luck 👍.

 

[TurnLeft]

I'll get to it later today, just need to nip out for a bit.

If (and when) I get time off, a nap always wins before play time.

And I thought naps were for ..............................

&

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(rolling on the floor )

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

And I thought naps were for ..............................

&

....................................................................................

(rolling on the floor )

I work 6 days a week, sometimes a quick 30 minute nap is refreshing, I do have knee issues but don't need a cain....yet.
And still have plenty of hair thank you

 

[Thorin Cain]

Was not really trying to push anyone, just checking if I missed someone. If (and when) I get time off, a nap always wins before play time.

I'd not really call it a nap, so much a mini coma. I remember waking every now and again and I didn't know I was imagining it or not...someone seemed to have a new avatar every time I saw the name pop up for a while there. Nice new Avatars by BTW @DolHaus (Although the old one was class.) and @Otaliema (Very apt.)👍 I'd say the same to you too @TurnLeft, but you'll probably have a new one too in a bit. I do like that alien though, find one with him in Hockey gear and it's a keeper

 

[TurnLeft]

I work 6 days a week, sometimes a quick 30 minute nap is refreshing, I do have knee issues but don't need a cain....yet.
And still have plenty of hair thank you

I've got tears in my eyes man , beautiful response 👍 but I gave two choices, you could have taken the first .
I fully understand about knee issues ( parachute + car accident), as for the hair, I keep it long but it is thinning out on the top , good thing I'm tall very few people can see it.

 

[Otaliema]

and @Otaliema (Very apt.)👍

Thank you sir. Took me a while to find one but it was worth it

I fully understand about knee issues ( parachute + car accident), as for the hair, I keep it long but it is thinning out on the top , good thing I'm tall very few people can see it.

I do have knee issues but don't need a cain....yet.

Ouchie on the knee. I sympathize, I almost tore my left ACL rock climbing when I was 14, then I hyper extended it running when I was 23. Was on a cain for 6 months. My right knee was almost blown out playing football when I was 10 and I almost crushed it in a car accident when I was 20. I can tell the weather better than a meteorologist

 

[DolHaus]

I've got tears in my eyes man , beautiful response 👍 but I gave two choices, you could have taken the first .
I fully understand about knee issues ( parachute + car accident), as for the hair, I keep it long but it is thinning out on the top , good thing I'm tall very few people can see it.

I see we have a similar approach to the hair situation Have you made a mark in the sand at which the hair has to go? I will shave mine off when the peninsula becomes an island

Ouchie on the knee. I sympathize, I almost tore my left ACL rock climbing when I was 14, then I hyper extended it running when I was 23. Was on a cain for 6 months. My right knee was almost blown out playing football when I was 10 and I almost crushed it in a car accident when I was 20. I can tell the weather better than a meteorologist

I hear you on the weather thing, I'm only 28 but I can barely move on days when the pressure changes

 

[Otaliema]

I hear you on the weather thing, I'm only 28 but I can barely move on days when the pressure changes

Naproxiumsodium and a knee brace is the best thing when you have a storm front moving through. 12 hour NSAID and and the brace helps in the same way and keeps your knee from freaking out too much. At least for me.

 

[DolHaus]

Naproxiumsodium and a knee brace is the best thing when you have a storm front moving through. 12 hour NSAID and and the brace helps in the same way and keeps your knee from freaking out too much. At least for me.

A bit of ibuprofen and a warm bath is what I find works best. I find supports to be a bit of a short term fix that leads to worse problems in the long run, I only wear them if my knees or ankles get really bad (or I've got a lot of miles to cover). 👍