Japanese Earthquake Relief DLC

[trk29]

I don't understand all of the negativity to a thread that could be for a good cause.

It's no secret, if companies hold fundraisers they are spending money in the hope they will get donations. If PD were to do this it would be no different they would be investing time and or money to a cause hoping that they would get dontations.

Try to picture it like this. My company holds a fundraiser and I buy a hot dog for lunch from the booth, did my company make money on that hot dog? No the money they used to buy the hot dog is getting written off and the money I used to purchase it from my company is getting donated.

I don't know what the laws are in Japan but over here the companies get a tax break for doing this, so before you jump to conclusions think about that. Plus if they chose not to do this than that would be no money for a effort if they did then Japan gets more money than expected.

It might be right or not right in your eyes but in the end it is money being given to a cause.

And before anyone says go donate, you don't know that I won't coming on here and saying you will does not prove anything.

 

[G.T.Ace]

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[Milldrum]

I don't understand all of the negativity to a thread that could be for a good cause.

It's no secret, if companies hold fundraisers they are spending money in the hope they will get donations. If PD were to do this it would be no different they would be investing time and or money to a cause hoping that they would get dontations.

Try to picture it like this. My company holds a fundraiser and I buy a hot dog for lunch from the booth, did my company make money on that hot dog? No the money they used to buy the hot dog is getting written off and the money I used to purchase it from my company is getting donated.

I don't know what the laws are in Japan but over here the companies get a tax break for doing this, so before you jump to conclusions think about that. Plus if they chose not to do this than that would be no money for a effort if they did then Japan gets more money than expected.

It might be right or not right in your eyes but in the end it is money being given to a cause.

I'm fine for you to sell hot dogs to raise money. Don't ask a Japanese company at this time.

 

[BroncosXR8]

I like the idea very much.
As the owner of chromeline cars, I couldn't give two hoots if the just re-used those for the DLC.
The cause it is raising money for is more important than my 'need' for exclusiveness!

 

[trk29]

I'm fine for you to sell hot dogs to raise money. Don't ask a Japanese company at this time.

For one I didn't ask. And I won't ask, I am just stating a fact about the way money is given and what happens to the companies that decide to contribute.

Would I buy it if it were offered yes. Would you? Yes. Will I donate anyway? yes.

 

[Milldrum]

For one I didn't ask. And I won't ask, I am just stating a fact about the way money is given and what happens to the companies that decide to contribute.

Would I buy it if it were offered yes. Would you? Yes. Will I donate anyway? yes.

I would buy it. I just think it's rude to ask anything from anyone in Japan right now.

 

[zaide]

I feel one should take the initiative in such a case, thousands of people are suffering as we speak, yet some people think it's appropiate to discuss which cars a chrome line would look sweet on?

Dont get me wrong, I know the whole idea was meant well. I'm not trying to crucify the OP for posting this at all, I just feel anyone could easily donate if they wanted to.. no exceptions.

 

[sdf]

It could be more easy and more money would be gathered, if sony said that at least 10% of the purchases made by psn for the next month/6 months/year will go help japan people.

However.... i dont event want to think, that giant Japanese companies (like sony) with very deep pockets that spend billion of $'s for few seconds in a TV channel, will not offer help to the people.....That would be totally unacceptable.

 

[chances14]

My sympathies to the Japanese people, but I think it's a bit premature to start throwing money at them. This is a 1st-tier country we're talking about, not Haiti or Pakistan. The poor, 2nd-tier nations will always take a disaster much worse because the infrastructure is terrible. Just look at the Haiti death toll compared with Japan so far.

The heavy toll of this disaster will be more economic than human in the long run, and that is really bad for a country.

Our hearts are in the right place, but surely Japan needs assistance in the form of military and rescue assistance instead of us chucking money at it?

i agree. i have already donated to the cause through the tax dollars that i have to give to the u.s government each year. i'm sure that they will be pouring millions of dollars into japan just like they do for every country when a disaster occurs

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

I understand what your saying,I'm just pointing out there ARE people who really can't(ps.I live 4000kms away from everyone I'm associated with).I'm not TRYING to find reasons I legitimately can't,hence why paying for DLC through PSN would be good for me because thankfully Walmart is open until 11pm.
edit:I'm not saying I would want something in return either just to add,if they even had some sort of way to donate through PSN I would do it as well.

No, I don't believe there are people who really can't. You live so remote where you are 4000 km away from everyone? New York to LA is 4000 km. North America is 4000 km wide. 4000 km from the east coast will put you in UK and 4000 km from the west coast will put you in Russia. So where exactly in Canada can you live?

It's so remote but somehow has enough population to have a Wal-mart? There are post offices, right? Even a town of 3 has a post office. Want to mail a check to Red Cross?

Wait, you don't have a checking account. Post office sells money order. If there's a will, there's ALWAYS a way. You find a way to add points to your PSN account while EVERYTHING there close at 6. Next excuse please.

Edit: You can also MoneyGram at Walmart to Red Cross.

 

[WuMing77]

EDIT: Also, if anyone here is following Kaz on twitter could you try to find out how he feels about this idea? I don't have a twitter account and can't really be bothered to make one since someone else on here is probably already following him.

It would have taken you longer to write the original post than it takes to create a twitter account. If you really care about your idea you'd do it.

 

[Mario2Lopez]

I already made a donation to the Red Cross for one simple reason, they came to my aid when I was in a car accident. Other than the fact I give them money each year I opposed to help the Japanese with a donation. Is not like we are friendly with their government.
I opposed a Relief DLC for the simple reason they will probably take advantage like many other organisation do in these situations. Let's say you donate $10 they will give back $0.10. Also Sony is an immensely profitable company and might end up taking credit for the amount donated.

Ps. I hate the fact most people hate the US but when they are in trouble we need to go help them. Did any country gave us money during Katrina?

Not to be mean but our economy is not in good shape as to give money away, I rather put it into my country.

 

[nyyellowtaxi]

Ps. I hate the fact most people hate the US but when they are in trouble we need to go help them. Did any country gave us money during Katrina?

For the last time. US != (not equal) World. And no, we are not the world police either (nor any single country out there want us to be). People outside US hate US because, well just look at how you (us Americans) talked to them.

International response to Hurricane Katrina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

 

[Machate-man]

In Reference to the OP,
You usually need to attatch a "piece" to a donation to get ANYTHING:tdown:
People are soooo mean

 

[Milldrum]

I already made a donation to the Red Cross for one simple reason, they came to my aid when I was in a car accident. Other than the fact I give them money each year I opposed to help the Japanese with a donation. Is not like we are friendly with their government.
I opposed a Relief DLC for the simple reason they will probably take advantage like many other organisation do in these situations. Let's say you donate $10 they will give back $0.10. Also Sony is an immensely profitable company and might end up taking credit for the amount donated.

Ps. I hate the fact most people hate the US but when they are in trouble we need to go help them. Did any country gave us money during Katrina?

Not to be mean but our economy is not in good shape as to give money away, I rather put it into my country.

My country gave the US aid for Katrina.

And tax dollars already paid are not a charitable effort. Charity is giving from what you own. Don't wait for your government to donate for you. Be selfless not selfish.

 

[LordSandwich]

Other than the fact I give them money each year I opposed to help the Japanese with a donation. Is not like we are friendly with their government.

What the hell? Japan and the US are good buddies - very close allies.

 

[freedomweasel]

Wouldn't it be easier to just.. you know.. donate money instead of asking the people currently under water to put up new game content?

 

[Big Ron]

I wouldn´t buy any stealth cars or chrome line cars for donation. When anybody needs money or someone ask for a donation, I do it directly over organisations.

No need to buy ugly cars to help people in Japan. There are better and faster ways.

Ps. I hate the fact most people hate the US but when they are in trouble we need to go help them. Did any country gave us money during Katrina?

Not to be mean but our economy is not in good shape as to give money away, I rather put it into my country.

In my opinion, a lot of people hate USA because of their attitude towards the rest of the world. Your goverment is a warmonger and needs to intervene where some profit for them can be reached. Also your goverment (and maybe all you people) is still in believe, that USA is the most important country in the world and "world leader of anything".

The next step are the american people and the patriotism and believe in the correct behavior of your goverment. It should be the opposit way

I have a nice geographical map of the USA and their attitude to the rest of the world:

 

[GT-BigFan4]

gr8 idea

 

[CodeRedR51]

Also your goverment (and maybe all you people) is still in believe, that USA is the most important country in the world and "world leader of anything".

No, we don't ALL think like that. Way to make yourself look like an ass.

 

[Big Ron]

No, we don't ALL think like that.

That´s why I said "maybe" The truth is, that there are a lot of people with this attitude.

Way to make yourself look like an ass.

I am German. For the rest of the world, I look like an ass since I was born

 

[DoomsVille]

Why in the hell would anyone care why someone donates to a charity. I mean whether it is for thoughtful, kind-hearted reasons or because they wanted to get a new cool car, what difference does it make? At the end of the day both of them contributed the same thing...

Charities don't care about intent. They aren't going to ask whether someones donating for tax purposes or if they want to save the world.

I think its a great idea. I'm guessing 90% of the people that get the cars will do it because they think they're cool. But it will hopefully generate a ton of money for people that really need it.

 

[freedomweasel]

Why in the hell would anyone care why someone donates to a charity. I mean whether it is for thoughtful, kind-hearted reasons or because they wanted to get a new cool car, what difference does it make? At the end of the day both of them contributed the same thing...

Charities don't care about intent. They aren't going to ask whether someones donating for tax purposes or if they want to save the world.

I think its a great idea. I'm guessing 90% of the people that get the cars will do it because they think they're cool. But it will hopefully generate a ton of money for people that really need it.

Because more of your "donation" goes to the cause if you just give Red Cross a check.

Secondly, people are making ridiculous excuses. Somehow people are able to get to the store, buy a PSN card, and then download something, but are unable to mail a check?

Thirdly, instead of asking the people we want to help to give us new stuff in exchange for help, why don't we just help them?

 

[trk29]

For the last time. US != (not equal) World. And no, we are not the world police either (nor any single country out there want us to be). People outside US hate US because, well just look at how you (us Americans) talked to them.

International response to Hurricane Katrina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

IranOffered to send humanitarian aid and 20 million barrels (3,200,000 m3) of crude oil.

KuwaitParliament approved $500 million for aid in oil and other humanitarian aid.

Wow that can't be right.

where some profit for them can be reached. Also your goverment (and maybe all you people) is still in believe, that USA is the most important country in the world and "world leader of anything".

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Thanks for that!:rolleyes:

You sure are making a great name for Germany with all the hate in that picture you showed us. You should just change your screen name to Adolf.

 

[freedomweasel]

Wow that can't be right.

Further in the article:
"An article in the April 29, 2007 Washington Post claimed that of the $854 million offered by foreign countries, whom the article dubs "allies," to the US Government, only $40 million of the funds had been spent "for disaster victims or reconstruction" as of the date of publication (less than 5%).
Additionally, a large portion of the $854 million in aid offered went uncollected, including over $400 million in oil (almost 50%)."
Just because someone offered us help doesn't mean we took it.

 

[novcze]

This is actually good idea, because you donate money directly to Japan company. I don't really trust charities because they take some money for themselfs and it's same with donation via SMS, always somebody "stealing" from money you've donated. That's very similar to taxes you pay to state and I'm sure they will send some help to Japan.

Car with Japan related livery as DLC is good way because even kids can donate.

 

[Hobgoblinpie]

Whats up with donating money to the cause and not expect anything in return, do people not donate for the sake of donating and try help someone out anymore??

Im sure the last thing on their minds right now is developing dlc...

I think it's more about reaching a bigger audience. I know a few people who wouldn't donate £2 to charity per month, but are happy to spend £15 on the newest maps for Call of Duty.

 

[freedomweasel]

This is actually good idea, because you donate money directly to Japan company. I don't really trust charities because they take some money for themselfs and it's same with donation via SMS, always somebody "stealing" from money you've donated. That's very similar to taxes you pay to state and I'm sure they will send some help to Japan.

Car with Japan related livery as DLC is good way because even kids can donate.

I think you're logic is a bit messed up there.

Yes, Sony and PD are Japanese companies. No, they aren't humanitarian groups or the Japanese government. Giving Sony money now makes as much sense as giving Microsoft money if something happens in the USA.

If you give Sony money they become just another middle man before they pass the money on to whatever group they donate the money too. In the end, it will be less money than just donating more directly.

 

[novcze]

I think you're logic is a bit messed up there.

Yes, Sony and PD are Japanese companies. No, they aren't humanitarian groups or the Japanese government. Giving Sony money now makes as much sense as giving Microsoft money if something happens in the USA.

If you give Sony money they become just another middle man before they pass the money on to whatever group they donate the money too. In the end, it will be less money than just donating more directly.

If Japan company says: Money from this DLC will be donated to Japanese goverment (and that is what OP suggested) than it's as direct as it gets.

 

[atiger]

I have a nice geographical map of the USA and their attitude to the rest of the world:

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Interesting map, just one small thing in relation to Australia, the seamonsters are a little further south east than shown. If by seamonsters you refer to 15 Great White Sharks, they are definitely there.

As to Americans being ignorant, I think that's a bit of a generalisation and could be perceived as racist. Every nation has good and bad and we should never judge people in totality, but as individuals. I'm sure German people would not like to be judged as a whole for the things that were done in Germany 70 years ago by a few bad people.

On the aid topic I feel people should give whatever they are able to give to help Japan after this terrible earthquake, if a few DLC cars helps raise funds for the people effected, that's a good thing.