JGTC - Season Three
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That really sucks 
the season is already over and i was just going to join.
the season is already over and i was just going to join.
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Race Results Season One
Season One has ended. Race results updated, season points updated. 👍
There is interest for a season two from Tvr speed12 and Crow. I would personally like to have a bit of learning in comparing car setups and stuff like that, but if I can hire Smallhorses as a teammate or team engineer then season two can start immediately.
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I'll be in too. With the same car of course 
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Race Results Season One
Season One has ended. Race results updated, season points updated. 👍
There is interest for a season two from Tvr speed12 and Crow. I would personally like to have a bit of learning in comparing car setups and stuff like that, but if I can hire Smallhorses as a teammate or team engineer then season two can start immediately.
What's your current setup?
Smallhorses
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Wooo! A victory finally! 👍 (though without competition from one inch man) 
And some consolation of a podium place for Crooooooow who is apparently taking up dancing...
while he votes for another series.
I'm off to work but I'll be PM-ing BH-21 later with some suggestions for season 2.
And some consolation of a podium place for Crooooooow who is apparently taking up dancing...
Crooooooow
while he votes for another series.
I'm off to work but I'll be PM-ing BH-21 later with some suggestions for season 2.
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Wooo! A victory finally! 👍 (though without competition from one inch man)
Congratulations!
And personally I'd like to know the setup of your car. I really thought, that you'd be quicker than me.
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And some consolation of a podium place for Crooooooow who is apparently taking up dancing...
while he votes for another series.
👍👎
Well, if One Inch Man is going to be in again, we may have to make him tow a bulldozer to even it up. Though taking the slowest car possible might be a better idea.
I put up a car setup thread.
JGTC Garage - Pit Area
I put up a car setup thread.
JGTC Garage - Pit Area
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If there is a season two then I'm in and I'll be driving the nissaan motul pitwork. not because its one of the best but because its probably one of my only Jgtc cars.
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Smallhorses
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Got in late from work after a full day, then trading in the horrid rental car (Chevy HHR) I've been driving for the past month and a bit for an 67000 mile Dodgy Caravan that I'll have until my new company Taurus arrives in mid-Dec. (My personal Miata & 911SC aren't insured for business use, and hell, I don't want to put extra miles on them, besides which my toolkit doesn't fit in the trunk of either of them!)
Went out for dinner more or less immediately.
Postponing PM & setup info until tomorrow.
Went out for dinner more or less immediately.
Postponing PM & setup info until tomorrow.
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Thanks for the advice Matej but I already do that its just that i use that prize money to buy supercars because I only found out about this 3 three days ago
Btw where are the results for the first season. I just want to see what I'm up against
Btw where are the results for the first season. I just want to see what I'm up against
Smallhorses
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Ok, here's what I'd propose for season 2. Just a suggestion, but how BH-21 wants to proceed is up to him, obviously as it's his series and concept.
However, we've always found that the handicap style of racing at UKGTP & SFGTP events was popular as it made a great leveler that enabled even the slowest drivers an opportunity to win a race or 2 eventually.
Given one inch man's runaway success in the fastest car in the field that was selected, and Croooooow's lacklustre performance in the Pennzoil Nismo, and the performance discrepancies that the JGTCs have, especially the Xanavi Nismo, WoodOne Toyota and the Motul Pitwork Z which benefit from more power & downforce than the older JGTCs, it seems fair to now put the faster drivers in the slower cars and the slower drivers in the faster cars to "regulate" the field.
Car-less did an enormous amount of A-spec & B-spec testing and he came up with a complete carlist in order of quickness based on laptimes on 6 tracks (4 A-spec, 2 B-spec), and if we extract the list of JGTCs from this, it shows the following in order from fastest to slowest:
Nissan Motul Pitwork Z (JGTC) '04
Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '03
Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra (JGTC) '03
Toyota ESSO Ultraflow Supra (JGTC) '01 (PAL Only)
Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R (JGTC) '01
Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC) '01
Nissan Pennzoil Zexel GT-R (JGTC) '01
Toyota Au Cerumo Supra (JGTC) '01
Nissan Loctite Zexel GT-R (JGTC) '00
Nissan Calsonic Skyline (JGTC) '00
Toyota Denso Sard Supra (JGTC) '00
Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC) '00
Honda Loctite Mugen NSX (JGTC) '01
Nissan Pennzoil Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '99
Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC) '01
Honda Takata Dome NSX (JGTC) '03
Honda Raybrig NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda Castrol Mugen NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda ARTA NSX (JGTC) '00
Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R '93
Basically what I'd propose is to allow unproven newbies to the series to start at the top of the list and select a car, then work bottom up from the standings of Season 1 for the drivers that wish to participate in Season 2.
So, for example if the unproven tvr speed 12 wants to take the Motul Z, it would then fall for Croooooow to pick something below that in the list, and our next man up would then pick lower again and so on until we reach me and one inch man who'd get last pick.
Or we could work the other way around, allowing last time's winner one inch man the first selection, but forcing him to pick low enough in the list that there's enough cars above him for the 8 or so interested drivers to pick above him, although of, course leaving anyone the option of picking below him if they so choose. e.g. If one inch man picks the Denso Sard Supra, it leaves more than 8 cars for people to pick above him, but I could pick anything from the Calsonic Skyline '00 up (obviously leaving enough selection for the drivers above me) but also if I felt like it anything untaken below that, so I could take the Castrol Mugen NSX. The same would go then for the driver above me, etc.
Make sense? Probably not. I'll explain it better if everyone thinks it might be fun, but it basically gives Matej and amokibh more of a chance of winning and makes me & one inch man work harder to keep up.
I'm not sure when this is proposed to start again, and I'll be away for large parts of November, but I'll try to compete where possible.
Anyway, that's my
, so let me know what you think BH-21?
However, we've always found that the handicap style of racing at UKGTP & SFGTP events was popular as it made a great leveler that enabled even the slowest drivers an opportunity to win a race or 2 eventually.
Given one inch man's runaway success in the fastest car in the field that was selected, and Croooooow's lacklustre performance in the Pennzoil Nismo, and the performance discrepancies that the JGTCs have, especially the Xanavi Nismo, WoodOne Toyota and the Motul Pitwork Z which benefit from more power & downforce than the older JGTCs, it seems fair to now put the faster drivers in the slower cars and the slower drivers in the faster cars to "regulate" the field.
Car-less did an enormous amount of A-spec & B-spec testing and he came up with a complete carlist in order of quickness based on laptimes on 6 tracks (4 A-spec, 2 B-spec), and if we extract the list of JGTCs from this, it shows the following in order from fastest to slowest:
Nissan Motul Pitwork Z (JGTC) '04
Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '03
Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra (JGTC) '03
Toyota ESSO Ultraflow Supra (JGTC) '01 (PAL Only)
Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R (JGTC) '01
Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC) '01
Nissan Pennzoil Zexel GT-R (JGTC) '01
Toyota Au Cerumo Supra (JGTC) '01
Nissan Loctite Zexel GT-R (JGTC) '00
Nissan Calsonic Skyline (JGTC) '00
Toyota Denso Sard Supra (JGTC) '00
Toyota Castrol Tom's Supra (JGTC) '00
Honda Loctite Mugen NSX (JGTC) '01
Nissan Pennzoil Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '99
Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC) '01
Honda Takata Dome NSX (JGTC) '03
Honda Raybrig NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda Castrol Mugen NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda ARTA NSX (JGTC) '00
Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R '93
Basically what I'd propose is to allow unproven newbies to the series to start at the top of the list and select a car, then work bottom up from the standings of Season 1 for the drivers that wish to participate in Season 2.
So, for example if the unproven tvr speed 12 wants to take the Motul Z, it would then fall for Croooooow to pick something below that in the list, and our next man up would then pick lower again and so on until we reach me and one inch man who'd get last pick.
Or we could work the other way around, allowing last time's winner one inch man the first selection, but forcing him to pick low enough in the list that there's enough cars above him for the 8 or so interested drivers to pick above him, although of, course leaving anyone the option of picking below him if they so choose. e.g. If one inch man picks the Denso Sard Supra, it leaves more than 8 cars for people to pick above him, but I could pick anything from the Calsonic Skyline '00 up (obviously leaving enough selection for the drivers above me) but also if I felt like it anything untaken below that, so I could take the Castrol Mugen NSX. The same would go then for the driver above me, etc.
Make sense? Probably not. I'll explain it better if everyone thinks it might be fun, but it basically gives Matej and amokibh more of a chance of winning and makes me & one inch man work harder to keep up.
I'm not sure when this is proposed to start again, and I'll be away for large parts of November, but I'll try to compete where possible.
Anyway, that's my
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I think you're right, although I don't like giving up my advantage
