Just Raced Under The New Algorithms and Rules

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Robben
You could note the time on the video of the incidents on tell everyone where to scroll to :)
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@zaxs I don't know how it works, but if you type something like '@ 12:10 - incident' in the same post, or in the youtube clip description, clicking on the text takes you to that point in the video like magic.
 
I still don't know it myself, there is still hell heat in me...

Here, first race at min 13, second at 33
 
Edit that video makes me want to cry.... what has happened to the porsche, it's soooooooooo slow on the straights and gets held up in corners :(

I saw first contact @15:47 rearended by porsche. @16:47 slight wall contact
 
Sven Jurgens
Dumping dirty drivers to lower SR is having the opposite effect. I've encountered several dirty C/S and B/S drivers today that were formerly A/S. Shielded by their penalty immunity they are bulldozing through the field. Bathurst is more like a battle arena atm. They still set lap times like DR.A drivers and have the speed, and since SR points get a big boost at the lower SR levels it takes pretty much no time to come back to SR.S with a few easy poles and wins. I have been dive bombed twice today by the same person, both times he got send to SR.A, yet doesn't stay there long.

It's too easy to gain SR. Plus lowering DR is now a shield from penalties while matchmaking is putting them right back with the people trying to race clean. Next room is up, S/S to D/S again, with one suspiciously fast qualifying time for a B/S driver ahead of 4 A/S.

Lol I just got hit 3 times from behind, then 3 more hits from a bad track re-entry causing a chain reaction, had to stop twice for 8 sec penalties, -38 SR in one race. Down to SR.B now. Perhaps the racing is cleaner there. Looks like I get to start from second place now instead of mid chaos. What a failure this new penalty system is.

And yes as expected. I start 2nd, get an easy win with 19 sec lead. The other A/B driver that started on pole turned out to be a glitch and has used the reset to 50K bug twice to then decent back to DR.B. He left as A/D after the race, the race which was all red ratings except me and second place. I got the clean race bonus +7 SR at SR.B, it will take a while to get that 38 SR back.

Next race up, C/A on pole with 2:03 qualifying time! It's a smurf account. I had one of the best duels in a long time for 2nd place with another smurf account. Clean, side by side through corners, backing out at the right time, perfect. Except he slipped up once in front of me and I touched his bumper while braking to avoid him, no damage (actually he benefited) no SR Down, no penalty, yet no SR gain either at the end, odd.
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yep... we've got to all the way back to page 3 for this...
cleanLX
And why knock a Dr.S driver back to Dr.A or Dr.B... he/she still has Dr.S pace... Now they go back and get a couple wins against A/B drivers...
They have implemented the Dr. tanking system that many were already "gaming"...
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Managed to find a window to race after a few days, pole position on Dragon Trail, middle of the first corner the car running second rams into me at 160 KM/H. I manage to keep control of the car and receive no penalty, there was no indication if the guy in the back was hit with one either. Anyway, I finished 1st and even got a clean race bonus.
 
GTFraker
Managed to find a window to race after a few days, pole position on Dragon Trail, middle of the first corner the car running second rams into me at 160 KM/H. I manage to keep control of the car and receive no penalty, there was no indication if the guy in the back was hit with one either. Anyway, I finished 1st and even got a clean race bonus.
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What are your ratings? What you describe is typically what I experience as well but I'm only C/S.
 
BallPtPenTheif
What are your ratings? What you describe is typically what I experience as well but I'm only C/S.
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GTFraker
B/S.
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It's definitely different past B; I was B last week and had the same experiences as you guys.. a few bumps here and there, then finish with clean race bonus. Now in A it is very strict in dishing out time penalties (although I have only had 2 incidents :D). I have no complaints though tbh, it will promote cleaner and fairer driving
 
Robben
It's definitely different past B; I was B last week and had the same experiences as you guys.. a few bumps here and there, then finish with clean race bonus. Now in A it is very strict in dishing out time penalties (although I have only had 2 incidents :D). I have no complaints though tbh, it will promote cleaner and fairer driving
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I like it if it becomes stricter as you go up, I was on a good rise several weeks ago and on pace to reach A rating but then got caught among the surge of new players after Christmas and new year. After a few horrible races I decided to stay away from Sport Mode, but this update has made things much better and cleaner, I'm more positive.
 
GTFraker
I like it if it becomes stricter as you go up, I was on a good rise several weeks ago and on pace to reach A rating but then got caught among the surge of new players after Christmas and new year. After a few horrible races I decided to stay away from Sport Mode, but this update has made things much better and cleaner, I'm more positive.
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I do agree, but there is no sliding scale :lol: it goes from non-existent to super harsh!

As I said: it is definitely cleaner overall, which is good. I've had more clean races in a week, than I had between October and February
 
vvise
this thread is hilarious, people acting ignorant and posting the proof. you hit the back of his car in a corner and it pushed him wide. also your internet is weak so probably on his screen the contact was more brutal.
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Yes i touched him a bit but not for a 3 Second penalty & -SR.
 
I have to say I’m not loving the latest changes to the algorithm. Here’s a clip from the Manufacturer’s race yesterday. Pretty sure I did nothing wrong, but you guys be the judge of that. Before the update, I had nothing but praise for the game and the penalty system, but now i seem to be getting what I believe, undeserved penalties.

 
nockscitney
I have to say I’m not loving the latest changes to the algorithm. Here’s a clip from the Manufacturer’s race yesterday. Pretty sure I did nothing wrong, but you guys be the judge of that. Before the update, I had nothing but praise for the game and the penalty system, but now i seem to be getting what I believe, undeserved penalties.
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That honestly looked like a lag error. That car moves like it was hit by an invisible car. In that driver's instance your avatar probably rammed him and you got penalized for what you did in an alternate laggy dimension. If that is the case, it seems odd that the game would generate penalties server side and not relative to each driver's individual experience.
 
VeeDoubleU
New feature now features a speaker system which can hear your microphone and will penalise ultra naughty words

but yeah that's a stupid penalty. Must have been the very slightest of contacts as the other driver spun infront, (maybe only contact due to slight netcode lag), and then given a very strict penalty.
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I’ll be sure to get my bleeping machine setup next time

I guess I just need to accept that these penalties are a thing now hope and pray that the fellow S rank drivers are worthy of their ranks
 
Well, I'm done with DR.A. I'm not qualifying anymore and letting my DR slide back to DR.B. The couple races I did today on Big Willow were the final straw. Matchmaking is a farce atm matching S to D in the same room. I keep getting hit from behind and even though it doesn't say SR.Down when a lower DR player bumps me, after the race I still end up with a red rating.

And again, I'm on the inside, slightly in front of the car on the outside, hugging the side of the road as much as I can, he still drives into me and I get +2 sec penalty, he doesn't get anything. I get bumped off the road, nothing for the player hitting me, yet I have a red rating at the end of the race. Yep, that's it, I'm going back to DR.B. This is not racing anymore. I find myself diving off the road when I see a car not paying attention and coming towards me, just to get more penalties.

DR ratings are all scrambled now anyway with all the smurf accounts, reset glitches up and down and matchmaking seemingly drawing random participants from a hat. Only a server rollback can fix the current mess.
 
nockscitney
I have to say I’m not loving the latest changes to the algorithm. Here’s a clip from the Manufacturer’s race yesterday. Pretty sure I did nothing wrong, but you guys be the judge of that. Before the update, I had nothing but praise for the game and the penalty system, but now i seem to be getting what I believe, undeserved penalties.

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BallPtPenTheif
That honestly looked like a lag error. That car moves like it was hit by an invisible car. In that driver's instance your avatar probably rammed him and you got penalized for what you did in an alternate laggy dimension. If that is the case, it seems odd that the game would generate penalties server side and not relative to each driver's individual experience.
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This is definitely lag related. I think that's the main factor to most of the rage here. "i barely hit him" on my screen doesn't mean "i barely hit him" on his screen. I think in that guy's game you pit maneuvered him off the track. The game server probably takes the events from both parties into consideration and hands out penalties.
 
The last 3 video’s dont say anything about the bad penalty system imo.

The last video is not ridiculous. Its just bad luck, since you probably hit him real gentle when he came past and the computer mistakenly saw it as you hit him of the track. So nothing ridiculous, just a mis interpretation of the situation. Remember, its not a human who judges this, than it would be ridiculous. Its just really bad luck that the computer got it totally wrong. This completely has nothing to do with the current penalty system.

The pre last video they driver is admitting he hit him, but still doesnt agree with the penalty. Doesnt get any better than that.

And Zaxs video was also not so hard. You first went beyond track limit and after that you clearly were just frustrated and getting more (deserved) penalty’s. So also little bad luck involved. I did not see the rest cause I also thought it was strange that you did not add the proper timing so dont have time to look for the incidents myself.
 
In the manufacturer's race at Blue Moon Infield the other day, I had a couple of incidents with a Ford driver (AdrianFerrari1). The first incident happened when I tapped Adrian in the rear because he slowed down into Turn 4 earlier than I expected. We both got 4 second penalties.

The second incident happened when, on the last lap, Adrian had to slow down in the middle of the high-speed left-handers before Turn 4 due to understeer, and I didn't react fast enough to avoid contact, tapping his rear again. I got a 2-second penalty and slowed down later on to eliminate it, but I noticed that Adrian fell a lot further behind than I had to.

After the race, I apologized to Adrian and found out that Adrian had got a 3-second penalty from the 2nd incident, whereas I only got 2. I don't understand it, Adrian was clearly a victim of my negligence to avoid contact, and yet he got a harsher penalty. That's not right. I hope this is just a rare and unlucky occurence where the victim is punished more than the aggressor.

Note: Adrian was A/S, I was S/S.
 
kilesa4568
Maybe PD have been listening as there's an update early tomorrow morning. PD is sick of mounting server costs so we're all getting even harsher penalties to thin us out.:D
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Thats why I hate PD!
Instead of just telling their community why and what this update will do (or what they plan to do), they just tell us "hey heres any update". Maybe it does nothing, or changes everything, we don't tell, so we don't have to worry...

God, their community management is just awful!

But now is hoping it will set the Penalty system back to its old form. Or at least fix most of it. But well, only PD knows...:rolleyes:
 
That's part of PD's mystique. Let's tell them there's a surprise update coming then sit around the PC giggling at all the GTP speculation threads about it. Hotter...colder...freezing!...warmer...hotter...love the optimism on that one! but no, freezing again...:lol:
 

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