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Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage
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I bought the game for £70 mate 🤣
I wanted to be able to, you know, play it...
I didn't want to pay £70 for a game to be told that I have to take up a second job of grinding Fisherman's Ranch in order to actually play the thing eventually.
That isn't me being impatient, or 'wanting everything now', it's a completely understandable desire of any person who lives a normal working life.
If PD wanted to release a game with 3 years worth of content then they need to actually put the effort in to do that. Not just sell a free to play game for full price.
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Such an empty apology. It's just about one step above "I'm sorry you feel that way", so it's technically not the worst possible "apology" but meaningless and unacceptable nonetheless.
Pro tip: When apologizing for something you've done wrong, that you can actually make right... make it right. Saying you're sorry about the awful career mode, the worthless payouts, and the microtransactions and then not doing anything about it whatsoever is worthless.
Pro tip: When apologizing for something you've done wrong, that you can actually make right... make it right. Saying you're sorry about the awful career mode, the worthless payouts, and the microtransactions and then not doing anything about it whatsoever is worthless.
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It's not that simple. I don't support games for impatient people that shower you with cash and don't offer any challenge when it comes to 100%-ing them, but in this case it's more like artificially prolonging the game despite not offering enough fresh content to keep people interested. This should come natural - by offering stuff like long championships and/or endurance races with good rewards for good challenge. Not by slashing the rewards in existing events and limiting maximum prizes for longer races.
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Why can't they play it? Sure they can't have all the cars, but they can play it. Once you're done the 30 plus hour career, there's licenses, missions, circuit experience and a few races that weren't included in the cafe menus. And if that's not your cup of tea, there are GTplanet's own GT7 leagues and events. I'm not saying everything is perfect, but there is still plenty to do.
With your food analogy, it's more akin to not letting your kid eat exactly what they want, and they're gonna have to wait a bit for ice cream
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So, you're saying you didn't receive about 80% of what you were told? Tell me, what's left out that makes up that large of a percentage? Because most of everything is there. As I've said, there ARE issues and I'm not overlooking those. But from what I can see the thing it's missing are higher end races with bigger payouts. And not really much else, aside from design choices which really boils down to opinion
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You cannot buy, tune, and paint/mod cars without grinding or getting out your wallet. Those things are integral for a lot of people in these games, without it the content is bare bones.
I have like 60,000 credits at the minute, it's completely impossible for me to buy any more cars and tune them up without playing pointless repetitive rally or chase the rabbit races I have no interest in. I haven't played the game in 2 days because of this, a game I paid £70 for with the intention of enjoying from day 1.
I have like 60,000 credits at the minute, it's completely impossible for me to buy any more cars and tune them up without playing pointless repetitive rally or chase the rabbit races I have no interest in. I haven't played the game in 2 days because of this, a game I paid £70 for with the intention of enjoying from day 1.
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Nope, career mode is there. About 30 hours, possibly more. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't exist
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I tried explaining this to a friend of mine and the best I could come up with is this;
If you want to maximise your time and try to gain access to the cars you want then the game requires you to grind, to repeat the most profitable races over and over again, as there is no other way.
The odds of being rewarded or gifted one of those cars are small.
So, you are stuck repeating the race(s) event(s) that pay out the most credits.
Now, the developers and/or publishers also offer a way to speed up this process by purchasing in game credits, called MTXs, via the playstation store.
These credits are very expensive, but that in and of itself wouldn't be an issue if the car prices were reasonably low...but they aren't.
Hence, you now have the triple whammy of slow in game credit attainment, expensive MTXs, and expensive cars.
The response to this, by those in charge, wasn't to adjust one or all of these issues, but, instead, was to reduce the payout from in game events.
My friend asked me if this company is actually trying to lose customer goodwill, and I couldn't really disagree with that premise.
This is such a public relations misstep that I can only assume they are so desperate, or greedy, that they don't care.
Let's dispense with any nonsense and call this out for what it is...greed.
Pure, unadulterated, to hell with the fans, milk them for all they are worth, greed.
Before this debacle, I had even considered spending a small amount on MTXs, as a one off...obviously that's not happening.
Oh, and the fact that there was no face saving "compensation", however small, tells me alot about this company.
P.S if you want to see how out of hand Sony is getting there is now a game on the U.K ps store retailing for £89.99.
90 quid, for a standard edition, not a special deluxe super duper edition...what the hell is going on?
If you want to maximise your time and try to gain access to the cars you want then the game requires you to grind, to repeat the most profitable races over and over again, as there is no other way.
The odds of being rewarded or gifted one of those cars are small.
So, you are stuck repeating the race(s) event(s) that pay out the most credits.
Now, the developers and/or publishers also offer a way to speed up this process by purchasing in game credits, called MTXs, via the playstation store.
These credits are very expensive, but that in and of itself wouldn't be an issue if the car prices were reasonably low...but they aren't.
Hence, you now have the triple whammy of slow in game credit attainment, expensive MTXs, and expensive cars.
The response to this, by those in charge, wasn't to adjust one or all of these issues, but, instead, was to reduce the payout from in game events.
My friend asked me if this company is actually trying to lose customer goodwill, and I couldn't really disagree with that premise.
This is such a public relations misstep that I can only assume they are so desperate, or greedy, that they don't care.
Let's dispense with any nonsense and call this out for what it is...greed.
Pure, unadulterated, to hell with the fans, milk them for all they are worth, greed.
Before this debacle, I had even considered spending a small amount on MTXs, as a one off...obviously that's not happening.
Oh, and the fact that there was no face saving "compensation", however small, tells me alot about this company.
P.S if you want to see how out of hand Sony is getting there is now a game on the U.K ps store retailing for £89.99.
90 quid, for a standard edition, not a special deluxe super duper edition...what the hell is going on?
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Also this is 30 hours of the same race type. Like if I'm not mistaken every race in the cafe was a rolling start, chase the rabbit affair?
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Well, if you add in the other races, you're looking at about 50. You can think it's pathetic, and that's OK. I've enjoyed the career
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Mate Kaz is to blame, he is the boss it all ends with him. He is so out of touch with the reality of the Sim scene and gamers in general it's hilarious actually....
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Also, it's been that way forever in GT. That would be something I'd love to see them address. Even if the AI isn't stellar, I'm much more happy racing in a grid start. For me personally that's a bigger issue than MTX
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Then, the solution should've been to cut Fisherman's Ranch & the next best payout race, and bump the rest to encourage variety with grinding. Instead, several other races were cut alongside resulting in Fisherman's Ranch remaining the most efficient effort.
If that's the case, then delay the game by that same time frame to apply those changes. Delays used to be a meme about GT, anyway.
But, you are being affected by it to a degree.
Because of the very inclusion of MTXs & how they've been priced vs. return, the rest of the game's economy has been structured around those decisions. Do you think it's a coincidence GT7 suddenly removed the option to sell your cars in case you wanted to quickly fund something else?
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In my opinion it is a bit hollow to talk about sense of achievement in a game you where you can just purchase mtx to bypass it.
From my viewpoint mtx should have been second currency, that players where only able to buy cosmetic items with.
With credits being the mtx currency, it is pay to win.
From my viewpoint mtx should have been second currency, that players where only able to buy cosmetic items with.
With credits being the mtx currency, it is pay to win.
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This last bit is what some people are failing to grasp, the entirety of the games content (outside of the tracks) is locked behind the in game economy, which is deliberately restrictive. It's essentially a free to play model.
Regardless of whether or not anyone is enjoying playing the game (many people enjoy F2P games), the failure to recognise the structure of the economy and how it ties into every aspect of the game (even widening a cars body requires a full lap of Fisherman's Ranch in many cases), and their insistance that anyone who is angry about this is just 'impatient' is nauseating.
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Do I need to 100% the game before I can realize there isn't much to do?
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Go help Dorothy find her red slippers straw man
Edit: of course you’ll poo reaction this but what you’ve done is the not addressed what was question but thrown in another argument
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Actually Cafe main career story whatever you want to call it can be done in 5 hours, licenses on bronze excluding the bugs can be done in couple of hours, missions are not part of the career, they just extras
So 7 hours in total
That's me being generous
So 7 hours in total
That's me being generous
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