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Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage
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Well, now it is more than clear GT7 is just a Sony's money machine. I'm glad a didn't buy it. Very down on my expectations.
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- MK-Kraken
Same method I've been using, 2 laps, 2 races, even on PS4 it loads reasonably quick. Can do both races in a fast car well under 4 mins and people better than me could probably do both, with reloads, on ps5 in under 7 mins so at the moment even in a slow case situation it's 600k CR and hour with clean race bonus.
2.2 user score now, Kaz is either being incredibly bold or incredibly naïve if he thinks we will wait for "fixes" and future content. They need to do something now. It's quite frankly gotten to the point where the more I read his "apology" the less I accept it. In the same statement he says how he wants to balance to price to real world values of the high value cars but in the same breathe says how he wants us driving as many different cars in different events as we can. I don't play a game to simulate real world costs of cars/houses/jobs whatever, I play them to escape, at least with FH5 you could earn 30 million credits if you really really tried in a couple of days with lucky wheelspins, or, in a single day if your a tuner/painter/sell a rare car on the auction house.
GT has none of this, so although FH5 has the 30,000,000cr 1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe (which I actually won in wheelspin LOL not that I can sell it for this much...) it's 100x faster to earn credits in that game, and crucially here, the vehicle is always available to purchase or obtain in game and never "vanishes" away for a time.
Gosh. I hope for some alleviation...and fast.
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PD seem to be playing the same game as the other corporation's to maximise profits and give all the earnings to share holders and the top executives and screw over the plebs & workers. lots of company's are saying they have to raise prices because of covid etc and can't give a pay raise yet profit levels are at all time record levels and then they blame the government for the inflation and everyone believes them.
Not everyone. The review-bombing speaks to the Sony people hopefully. Let's be real. At this point it is a F2P game with MTX for 80 euros. I love GT, I do not mind grinding a bit and I can spend many hours doing the missions, challenges etc. However the focus on MTX is quite frankly, too extreme. I hope the extreme bombing will gain some traction and push them in another direction, but I am not getting my hopes up.
In order to succeed one must fail first. The GT series has already seen success in older titles, however for me GT started its downfall with GTS. That's not to say I didn't have my complaints with any of the older games, but ever since GTS (I could probably trace it back to GT5) the series has been misguided imo.
I'm part of the problem, because I bought GT7 (will never buy MTX though) even though I've voiced my disagreement with the always-online requirement for both GTS and GT7. Reason being is part of me doesn't care anymore where the game industry is headed and because life is too short to keep upholding my principles in the gaming space. That is my honest truth; I'm torn between my principles and wanting to play one of my favorite game series ever.
GT7 had the wind behind its back with its marketing. But now that we've seen what the game is really like, from the user's perspective and not from professional reviewers, I now want to see GT7 fail. And I want to see that failure paired with all our complaints. It's the only way I see the series correcting course. It will continue to sell until word of mouth reaches more potential buyers. And maybe then PD will listen.
I'm not that active here so it won't matter if I say I won't be posting for a while here anymore. Just wanted to get this off my chest. I broke out in shingles recently so the last thing I need is all this stress from the negativity surrounding this game. But I do think it's important to keep the criticisms up if you really care about GT. There's a great game underneath all the horrible design decisions so I will still be playing, but I'm done with the social media of this game.
I'm part of the problem, because I bought GT7 (will never buy MTX though) even though I've voiced my disagreement with the always-online requirement for both GTS and GT7. Reason being is part of me doesn't care anymore where the game industry is headed and because life is too short to keep upholding my principles in the gaming space. That is my honest truth; I'm torn between my principles and wanting to play one of my favorite game series ever.
GT7 had the wind behind its back with its marketing. But now that we've seen what the game is really like, from the user's perspective and not from professional reviewers, I now want to see GT7 fail. And I want to see that failure paired with all our complaints. It's the only way I see the series correcting course. It will continue to sell until word of mouth reaches more potential buyers. And maybe then PD will listen.
I'm not that active here so it won't matter if I say I won't be posting for a while here anymore. Just wanted to get this off my chest. I broke out in shingles recently so the last thing I need is all this stress from the negativity surrounding this game. But I do think it's important to keep the criticisms up if you really care about GT. There's a great game underneath all the horrible design decisions so I will still be playing, but I'm done with the social media of this game.
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On jalopnik too
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Gran Turismo 7 Is Falling Apart, And It Was All Totally Avoidable
Controversial game design and a botched update that left the highly-anticipated racer unplayable for a day have cratered fans' faith.
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Sony's other first-party titles don't have microtransactions... I assumed they at least sold cosmetic bs like nearly every other game, but I went through PSN and found nothing but story DLC in their big exclusives over the last few years (including Horizon FW that launched a week before GT7)
If Sony is to blame for anything it is not allowing PD to finished the offline mode before it launched. There's no evidence that the macro-transactions are the fault of anyone other than PD
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Launching an update that allows the player to sell their used cars and at the same time, make the cars available in the Sony store to be purchased individually as they were in GT Sport, at more reasonable prices, would remedy much of the problem he got himself into..
No matter if you are okay with GT7s micro transaction or not, the truth is, if we don’t do anything right now and just let PD get away with all these shady money grab moves, things are just going to get worse from here on out and who knows, maybe the next GT will turn out to be a full fledged free to play pay to win game. I am sure none of us want that.
Yes, lacking such an important feature as being able to sell one’s own car really just shows how much PD doesn’t want us to gain credits without paying real money.
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There should NEVER be microtransactions for content that is already in a full price game at launch. That content has already been paid for. The 'grind' is ridiculous for people who actually have lives outside of gaming to ever be able to get their hands on all of the cars in this game. £15.99 is NOT a microtransaction either, it is a full on transaction. A 12,000,000 Cr. car would cost £95.94 in "micro" transactions. Nearly a hundred quid for a digital car that you will never own, cannot play offline and have already paid for in the full price of the game at launch. This is obscene greed and the whole "Limited Availability" and "Invitation Only" artificial scarcity and FOMO psychology is so despicably predatory. Hiding all of this until reviews were out was utterly deceitful.
I will never part with another penny on GT7 and this is my last ever GT game. I'll try to enjoy what I can of it through normal gameplay and learn to live with the fact that I will most likely never have time to unlock all of the expensive cars in the game that came at launch.
I will never part with another penny on GT7 and this is my last ever GT game. I'll try to enjoy what I can of it through normal gameplay and learn to live with the fact that I will most likely never have time to unlock all of the expensive cars in the game that came at launch.
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Man, it sucks seeing GT so low and the state of the game. Hopefully it has a snowball effect and Sony or PD, whoever’s responsible, put aside their desire for getting every last penny from consumers and improve the game’s economy.
GT7 is so close to being the best GT game ever. And crucially, to get there, it doesn’t need a complete overhaul. Port over GT League from Sport for a lot of quick content, add in some championships (or more World Circuits championships), along with a rebalanced economy and things will be much better.
Come on, Sony/PD. Save a legendary franchise and developer’s reputation while you still can. The core game is great. Amend the economy, remove/make MTX like GT Sport at the least, add more content and we’re off to the races.
And remove the online only component. Verify the save with the servers when a player attempts to enter Sport mode or view lobbies. Flag it if it comes back as modified and ban them from the online services with that account.
Now your game is playable during server outages and when the servers are eventually turned off (assuming a patch isn’t issued at that point to allow offline game progression).
GT7 is so close to being the best GT game ever. And crucially, to get there, it doesn’t need a complete overhaul. Port over GT League from Sport for a lot of quick content, add in some championships (or more World Circuits championships), along with a rebalanced economy and things will be much better.
Come on, Sony/PD. Save a legendary franchise and developer’s reputation while you still can. The core game is great. Amend the economy, remove/make MTX like GT Sport at the least, add more content and we’re off to the races.
And remove the online only component. Verify the save with the servers when a player attempts to enter Sport mode or view lobbies. Flag it if it comes back as modified and ban them from the online services with that account.
Now your game is playable during server outages and when the servers are eventually turned off (assuming a patch isn’t issued at that point to allow offline game progression).
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Anyone else see they added the awesome 1970 Porsche 917 to Legendary Cars?
“ 18,000,000 Cr. “ 😞
“ 18,000,000 Cr. “ 😞
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To be fair the campaign is only the menu book, the other stuff is side content which is not how you time a game, you time a game on the main story content. And I think playing casually Its beatable in 10 hours if don't try to get gold on everything and only do what is required. Tbh I think it could be done much faster if you wanted to.
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Haha, wtf is going on. There is no way anyone can afford that without spending real money or grinding for days.
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Kaz want's us to enjoy it. He told us so. What was left of his reputation is in tatters now. The McLaren at 18.5 and then double down with the 917, wtf are they smoking?
I would love to buy the 1970 Porsche 917 and the McLaren F1 '94, but the prices for them two are ridiculous. I have been doing grinding for a couple of hours each day, and for a casual player this is not enjoyment, where you got to grind all the time for peanuts I will say this is BS.
Why the credit grinding is so poor in GT7 now, is because PD wants you to use more of their Micro transactions to get these cars with real money, which is totally wrong.
I thought GT7 will be the best of all of Gran Turismo series, but it is the worst game ever at the moment. PD can bring back the enjoyment and love with this game and, make the credit payouts a lot better.
Why the credit grinding is so poor in GT7 now, is because PD wants you to use more of their Micro transactions to get these cars with real money, which is totally wrong.
I thought GT7 will be the best of all of Gran Turismo series, but it is the worst game ever at the moment. PD can bring back the enjoyment and love with this game and, make the credit payouts a lot better.
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I'm glad I got a full refund on this dumpster fire of a game, the cafe is stupid and so is the fact that you have to unlock locations via the moronic menu books. I'd buy GT7 again if they eliminated the cafe and having to unlock locations, not for $90 though, $40 is a more reasonable price.
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Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu......!!!
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It dropped to 2.0 now, putting it within the ranks of other notable titles like Leisure Suit Larry : Box office bust and Metal Gear Survive.
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Noticed there's no sign of any lawsuit(s) over this outrage, but if one were to file one, on what charges it would be?
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