Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage

[AeonGaiden]

For those that keep saying how not to worry, they will add newer cars etc over time as a free update etc...yeah in Driveclub that free update comes and you get to drive them right away. In GT7 they will "add" them but you still have to spend millions lol. You can not even take the car in Scapes unless you bought it lol.

 

[MockngBrd]

Noticed there's no sign of any lawsuit(s) over this outrage, but if one were to file one, on what charges it would be?

Probably the one where they marketed that you can "sell" your cars

 

[Scarltz]

Noticed there's no sign of any lawsuit(s) over this outrage, but if one were to file one, on what charges it would be?

What about "misleading" or something similar? They put out those MTX after those early reviews

 

[AeonGaiden]

Noticed there's no sign of any lawsuit(s) over this outrage, but if one were to file one, on what charges it would be?

As a GT fan, Id honestly be happy with a refund. Not because of the 1 day server shutdown but because every single day some progress doesnt get saved, i get kicked off to offline and my whole tour progress wiped etc. Its annoying, this is not what I want in my game. And to say these are early adopter kinks....they had 4 years practice with this always online ******** with GTS. How can they now make new mistakes.

 

[Patricko]

Is there some mass law suit coming for them?

 

[tankuroded]

Is there some mass law suit coming for them?

As I mentioned, not yet.

 

[Silverfox1984]

Man, it sucks seeing GT so low and the state of the game. Hopefully it has a snowball effect and Sony or PD, whoever’s responsible, put aside their desire for getting every last penny from consumers and improve the game’s economy.

GT7 is so close to being the best GT game ever. And crucially, to get there, it doesn’t need a complete overhaul. Port over GT League from Sport for a lot of quick content, add in some championships (or more World Circuits championships), along with a rebalanced economy and things will be much better.

Come on, Sony/PD. Save a legendary franchise and developer’s reputation while you still can. The core game is great. Amend the economy, remove/make MTX like GT Sport at the least, add more content and we’re off to the races.

And remove the online only component. Verify the save with the servers when a player attempts to enter Sport mode or view lobbies. Flag it if it comes back as modified and ban them from the online services with that account.

Now your game is playable during server outages and when the servers are eventually turned off (assuming a patch isn’t issued at that point to allow offline game progression).

Ironic that the intention of MTX's were to give the developers of GT more money, yet because of it fewer people will now own the game, in a series which has in the past often been a best seller that made PD millions.

 

[twgtracer]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage​

Following one of the most difficult days in the 25-year history of Gran Turismo, series founder Kazunori Yamauchi has released a statement to fans regarding the future of Gran Turismo 7 — just two weeks into the title’s life...

I finally decided to come back and give the GT series another chance and then Polyphony had to ruin a great game with their in-game micro-transaction system and reduced race credit payouts, not to mention the feeling of being lured into a cash cow machine by deceit. 'm sure I will be bored of this game in a couple of weeks because I won't be able to get any of the cars that I want through regular means...shame on you Polyphony and Sony

 

[EceliN]

im not playing anymore

 

[Gpcd00]

And here we are with the mighty porsche 917, 18.000.000, thank you Kaz and your bs, 2 cars that expensive who will buy them? only whales that uses mtx's or someone that will grind for 36 hours?

 

[torque99]

You can not even take the car in Scapes unless you bought it lol.

I just noticed that recently. In GT Sport I could choose all the factory cars i.e Aston Martins and use them in the manufacturer's own Scapes but you can only use the few you have now. They seem to be blocking off every access to the high end cars.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

I just noticed that recently. In GT Sport I could choose all the factory cars i.e Aston Martins and use them in the manufacturer's own Scapes but you can only use the few you have now. They seem to be blocking off every access to the high end cars.

Well it's not like there's much else to do with the cars once you buy them, there's not enough races in the game to make most of them useful. They've gotta have some incentive to buy cars in this car photography simulator.

 

[Frisk_]

Aside MTX which is insulting, simple as that, I already beat the entire game events... bloody hell... A game I paid 100€...

Now I'm playing GT SPORT to calm down frustration I have with GT 7 lack of content.

Seriously, look at how GT SPORT is millions far away from GT7 in career aspect, the game is actually fun with great events from beginner to endurance. What the hell

 

[Scaff]

The idea that everyone in 10 years will be driving an EV is a fairytale.

Good job that's not the actual plan being worked on by the industry then.

It's the wrong thread for this discussion, but at least be accurate in the claims you make.

 

[MroczMR]

Well I think this is perfect opportunity to end Horizon Forbidden West and wait what will Kaz do in the updates. I fill disgusted with the MTX and economy in GT7.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Good job that's not the actual plan being worked on by the industry then.

It's the wrong thread for this discussion, but at least be accurate in the claims you make.

The next Gran Turismo would be within 10 years, hopefully. He is saying EVs dominating a market would end the Gran Turismo series. I am telling him that there will be another game since EVs won't dominate the market in 10 years.

I don't see how what I said is inaccurate as I never claimed that is what the "plan" of the industry is. As if the entire industry has some singular plan.

 

[karelpipa]

Woah. There's a lot here.

1st - Kaz admitting that the game basically isn't finished, and promising more will be available with (presumably) higher payouts. Confirming without confirming they were forced into the deadline?

2nd - not giving any sort of time frame on when the actual things will come is concerning. Clearly, not confident on the completeness of the events.

3rd - If they don't want people grinding SP, increase online payouts. It's really that simple. That's where the variety lies. I understand MAYBE not going crazy with the lobby payouts, but not increasing Sport mode payouts is honestly infuriating.

EDIT 4th: They addressed they "don't want" people to pay for credits. Some can take that as just PR, but considering Kaz insinuated in point 1 above, I think that's also a subcomment regarding Sony wanting an extra influx of profit.

ad 1st - if you dont put a deadline on PD you remain waiting for the game indefinitely

 

[Scaff]

The next Gran Turismo would be within 10 years, hopefully. He is saying EVs dominating a market would end the Gran Turismo series.

It wouldn't, but for other reasons, mainly that PD can seem to get modern cars into a GT release

I am telling him that there will be another game since EVs won't dominate the market in 10 years.

I don't see how what I said is inaccurate as I never claimed that is what the "plan" of the industry is.

I can only comment based on how it read to me.

As if the entire industry has some singular plan.

It pretty much does, I work with most global OEM's. The plan is driven by the various governments around the world and public pressure, but it's one the OEM's are following, because if they don't the two largest global markets will be locked out to them (the US is third), which not a single one of them is going to risk. If the majority of world governments are saying no new ICE cars by 2030, what do you think global OEM's are doing?

I would agree that the US is behind pretty much the rest of the world in this regard, but the US isn't the global car market, not by a long shot, nor does it dominate the European market any more (GM ran away, Chrysler is driven by Europe now, and Ford Europe may as well be a separate brand and only have 4% market share in Europe), so the US market and how it may work in regard to EVs isn't a good yard-stick to use.

 

[Franske]

Well I think this is perfect opportunity to end Horizon Forbidden West and wait what will Kaz do in the updates. I fill disgusted with the MTX and economy in GT7.

Get used to it. Sony wants more games as a service so there will be more games which will be ruined bij MSX.

 

[Jayson619]

Right now things are looking good....

 

[snowman_pr]

$380 for the lease of two digital cars… lease because this game is a lease while it’s insistent on always on internet for offline single play. $380, over the $85 I already gave for the right to lease this game which I still hopes it’ll receive a Spec 2.0 with offline and back to basics stuff of past GT’s, but alas it won’t be.

$380, and you can’t even have them in a few years when Sony kills the servers…

I’m really can’t find words for how I feel…

 

[Pete_J_C]

Well it's not like there's much else to do with the cars once you buy them, there's not enough races in the game to make most of them useful. They've gotta have some incentive to buy cars in this car photography simulator.

please people don't have a go at me but, what is the point of road cars in this game. okay scapes is one, then slogging through first sunday cup races... then.... ?? road cars are not designed for racing around a circuit, so what is the point in them in a game where you can only go around circuits (and admitedly use scapes but I don't think that justifies it)?

 

[Gpcd00]

please people don't have a go at me but, what is the point of road cars in this game. okay scapes is one, then slogging through first sunday cup races... then.... ?? road cars are not designed for racing around a circuit, so what is the point in them in a game where you can only go around circuits (and admitedly use scapes but I don't think that justifies it)?

when you max it out you can use them against race cars

 

[super supra]

1-3 hours for 50k CR. lol

Hell no 😅....maybe if the bonus was 500% 😆.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

please people don't have a go at me but, what is the point of road cars in this game. okay scapes is one, then slogging through first sunday cup races... then.... ?? road cars are not designed for racing around a circuit, so what is the point in them in a game where you can only go around circuits (and admitedly use scapes but I don't think that justifies it)?

I do actually really enjoy racing road cars. And people do race these on tracks, they're just not generally big events, and even less likely to be on any famous and expensive tracks.

 

[ClassicGamer]

gt4 remastered

 

[Northstar]

please people don't have a go at me but, what is the point of road cars in this game. okay scapes is one, then slogging through first sunday cup races... then.... ?? road cars are not designed for racing around a circuit, so what is the point in them in a game where you can only go around circuits (and admitedly use scapes but I don't think that justifies it)?

I'm guessing you've never been to an open track day? Because usually as long as you have a helmet and a road worthy car you can take it out on track no matter how ill suited it may be for a race track.

To further my point there's even things like autocross and bracket drag racing that are literally designed around taking normal road cars racing (albeit not door to door).

 

[mthomas_95]

I wonder if all that time spent at posh events like Pebble Beach has influenced the way Kaz views car culture? Obsessing over extremely rare (and expensive) old one-offs surrounded by people who never have to think about money.

It's a world away from trackdays, owners club meetings and almost all forms of racing. I'd argue this is more 'rich culture' he's trying to simulate, but even the likes of the original Test Drive Unlimited does that so much better as a game to enjoy.

 

[klwn]

good point. Is guess they lost contact to reality. Their bubble is not our bubble. These kind of game were designed to have a peak into a bubble where you could own and drive every car you ever dreamed of. Now GT has become a second-life simulation where you need to work not only in real life but also in the virtual world to obtain what you desire. Don't get me wrong, I love grinding and achieving some kind of a goal to get a reward but this kind of credit grinding is far from this kind of achievement, it is work, boring, repetitive work.

 

[BossBattle]

GT7 is likely to be the last of its kind. I don't see a GT8 in the future simply because cars like we used to know them are being replaced with EVs

So your wish is almost a foregone conclusion.

So part of me wants to disagree with you vehemently, but then again…maybe they’ll double down with this “realism” approach and make sure we can only buy cars that meet global emissions standards. You’ll also be fined if your exhaust is too loud.

I’m kidding of course.

The biggest threat to GT8’s existence? The business practices of Sony/Polyphony. It will be all good if they adequately address this situation.