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They're better than nothing, disappointing, but better than nothing. Let's jut hope the other 15 cars it comes bundled with are worth it.Energizerrr
Kazunori Yamauchi tweets!
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What if they come in a special colour?
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What do you mean?Spagetti69
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The FT, if it comes in a new colour, would he buy it,
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👍 and maybe with special pattern on the tires!
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The Celica and the Supra were always based on the same platform... At least, that is what I was lead to believe. My understanding for the next generation Supra was that it was always going to be what we now know is the Lexus LFA.
New tweet:
東京モーターショーへ向けた「FT-86グランプリ」予選、トップは２分の壁を破って１分５９秒台。２位に入ってるsamuraiさんはスティックか。それもすごいね。
For the Tokyo Motor Show "FT-86 Grand Prix" qualifying, the top units in 1 minute 59 seconds, beating the walls of two minutes. I entered the # 2's or samurai stick. It it also great.
New tweet:
東京モーターショーへ向けた「FT-86グランプリ」予選、トップは２分の壁を破って１分５９秒台。２位に入ってるsamuraiさんはスティックか。それもすごいね。
For the Tokyo Motor Show "FT-86 Grand Prix" qualifying, the top units in 1 minute 59 seconds, beating the walls of two minutes. I entered the # 2's or samurai stick. It it also great.
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Who says we'll have to pay for the FT-86? People jump to conclusion so fast. This may be included in an update! Toyota could use the car as promotion for the real world model? It's suppose to weigh 2700lbs. with 200hp, like the MX5 its a fun to drive car, not an exotic.
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This... as the FT-86 was shown multiple times using the game engine in presentations I think it'll come for free in the next updates.
And as Kaz retweeted the comment where a guy ask for the 2012 GTR, I believe we're going to get it too.
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Well, with DLC now in play, it's reasonable to think that the FT-86 II and the GTR '12 will probably come in a DLC pack with other cars. I mean if they're going to sell DLCs, they might as well have these two cars come with the car pack. Of course, I also agree on the possibility of getting the car for free as we did in GT5
and GT5 Spec II, perhaps as you say, mainly due to promotional reasons.
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I'm with the brazilian on this one.
I'd say the FT-86 II will be (and should be) a free update, as it's been used in too many commercial spots and promos for both GT5 and Toyota. Toyota and PD probably have an agreement to mutually publish their products.
On the other hand, the 2012 GT-R is probably gonna come as DLC
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The Celica and Supra were only on the same platform from 1979 to 1985.
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LFA was kinda like a "look what we built" for Lexus. Good move really. I really respect that car. Always liked Lexus. Just never passionate like the LFA.
anyway, here's hoping for more hints via twitter.
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I get what you mean, but the Corolla was a cheaper car; this car looks to be aiming a bit higher, so does actually fit in the gap left by the Celica.
Anyway, the marketers are keen on calling it a Celica, it seems, although the engineers etc. all like the 86 designation. Some people are even calling it a mini LFA, but I don't think the Lexus badge would fit.
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If may fit in that gap left by the Celica, but it's not the Celica replacement.
Even so, it will only be called a Celica (if they go that route) in certain countries. I'm assuming the USA will only be getting the Scion FR-S or whatever, so it doesn't really matter to me.
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If may fit in that gap left by the Celica, but it's not the Celica replacement.
Even so, it will only be called a Celica (if they go that route) in certain countries. I'm assuming the USA will only be getting the Scion FR-S or whatever, so it doesn't really matter to me.
Does it matter what it's called?
All they'd need to do is introduce a convertible / spider / whatever version and they'll have an MR2 replacement, too.
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Seriously? More like put the engine mid-ship, then they'll have an MR2 replacement.
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If may fit in that gap left by the Celica, but it's not the Celica replacement.
Even so, it will only be called a Celica (if they go that route) in certain countries. I'm assuming the USA will only be getting the Scion FR-S or whatever, so it doesn't really matter to me.
Toyota has in recent years changed every commonly known model names they used for decades for their replacements, the Corolla became the Auris, the Starlet the Yaris, the Carina the Avensis, etc.
So it was to be expected that a small coupé neatly fitting into the slot left by the Celica was going to have a different name.
What's more, the FT-86 was going to be completely different than the last Celica, smaller, sportier and rear wheel drive.
So to illustrate that and to suggest some heritage, they resurrected and altered an old name (AE86) of an iconic car which encapsulates all those aspects.
It's just marketing and positioning a car into that market, it'll attract former Celica (and even possibly former MR2) owners whilst also trying to attract those who wouldn't buy a car labelled Celica for whatever reason.
As for the production version itself being included, that's nice but I much prefer the look of the concept version already included which is a hoot to drive.
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I had the same thought.
As for the Supra/LFA. I really think the LFA is the foundation of the next generation Supra. It just make sense.
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Why can't the LFA just be taken as Toyota's/Lexus' first attempt at a supercar? The Supra was never a super car. It was a class in the range of sports cars. It can't be a true successor if it's not in the same class/market as the original. It'd be a completely different car. I apologize if there are exceptions to this, as I'm not a super expert on automotive history.
The FT-86 on the other hand, can be labeled as a successor as the AE86, due to the size, drivetrain, and similar marketing appeal. Not sure if it'll attract previous Celica owners though, because previous Celicas were FF, or 4WD, unless I'm wrong that there were FR Ceilicas in the past. Again, I'm no expert.
The FT-86 on the other hand, can be labeled as a successor as the AE86, due to the size, drivetrain, and similar marketing appeal. Not sure if it'll attract previous Celica owners though, because previous Celicas were FF, or 4WD, unless I'm wrong that there were FR Ceilicas in the past. Again, I'm no expert.
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Yeah, in terms of purity. But there isn't anything else like it from Toyota, is there? No two-seat "sporty" drop-top to be found at all - that's a market, that is.
EDIT: I know the FT-86 is a 2+2, but I'm only talking hypothetically anyway.
@ analog: I'm hoping the final production car looks different to the FT-86 II (which is a step backwards, for me) - the test mules look promising on that front.
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Didn't know Faz's tweet was full of FT86 chip-chap 
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Check the thread for it in the Auto News section. Tons of photos posted lately of the production version(s).
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Who'd of thought a simple posting of a car under a sheet would derail a thread so much.
Back on topic, no new tweet from Kaz. I'm interested to know if they're going to fix the weak draft in December's update.
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http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/products/gt5/event/d15362.html I already knew this event was coming and to Japan only, but what is confusing me is the prize money for the Gold: 25,000,000cr. The cr. limit in GT5 is 20,000,000. Am I missing something here? Maybe the limit has been increased? Hmmm...
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