Kazunori Yamauchi tweets!

[Rzeractor]

Gear box 2: Only the final Gear is adjustable

Gear box 3: All gears are fully customizable.

This is what i wanna see in GT5 but i know it wont happen but in GT6 this is how it should go down

Final gear is a diff setting. That said, at least it should be in the game. You buy the fully customisable diff and can swap the centres/ratios n stuff

 

[ZERAM]

some new tweets from the man
any translate?

 

[GT Motion]

some new tweets from the man
any translate?

He said gamesaves will be altered to allow only backup once significant progress has been achieved (whatever that means).

Then something else about premium cars but my friend cant translate that section.

Edit: I think he is lying, can anyone confirm this is the correct translation?

 

[jjaisli]

He said gamesaves will be altered to allow only backup once significant progress has been achieved (whatever that means).

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love that, wouldn't you. Google translations from Japanese to English are poor at best. But you don't even need an imagination to see Kaz has been talking about in game music during his last few tweets and nothing at all about games saves.

EDIT: Sorry for coming on a little strong--didn't see your edit.

 

[JoGuedez]

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love that, wouldn't you. Google translations from Japanese to English are poor at best. But you don't even need an imagination to see Kaz has been talking about in game music during his last few tweets and nothing at all about games saves.

EDIT: Sorry for coming on a little strong--didn't see your edit.

Yes, he's been talking about music. Use 'tradukka' for the translations, i think that one is better.

 

[Le Mans 88]

With PD's record of schedules delays, are you sure you want to know and think that something is coming out on x date, only to be disappointed when it doesn't?

I'm about to pre-order Shift 2 and will purchase Dirt 3 and Forza 4.

PD need to stop keeping fans in the dark, give us 2010 car packs for Le Mans, Super GT and DTM, historic race cars like Group C, IMSA GTP, Group B and Group A plus of course more tracks.

PD already messed up the game structure and content, there's no excuses not to have a well planned DLC schedule, fans have been waiting five years for this game and like me I'm sure many would happily pay another £50+ for quality DLC.

Potentially there's no need for me to buy another driving game on the PS3 if PD maximise this games potential.

 

[///MPower-]

ask if he could make a premium of the Mercedes-Benz Clk- GTR ( The legend)

 

[vaneyk]

I'm about to pre-order Shift 2 and will purchase Dirt 3 and Forza 4.

PD need to stop keeping fans in the dark, give us 2010 car packs for Le Mans, Super GT and DTM, historic race cars like Group C, IMSA GTP, Group B and Group A plus of course more tracks.

PD already messed up the game structure and content, there's no excuses not to have a well planned DLC schedule, fans have been waiting five years for this game and like me I'm sure many would happily pay anothe £50+ for quality DLC.

Potentially there's no need for me to buy another driving game on the PS3 if PD maximise this games potential.

Im pretty sure that you are crazy to dump 50$ extra on this game.

 

[Vinz93]

somebody colud Ask to Yama if PD is Realy want to Make Some new Premium Cars?
i want Some historic Ferrari, like the 250 GTO and the Testarossa...

 

[Le Mans 88]

Im pretty sure that you are crazy to dump 50$ extra on this game.

It's far and away the best sim on consoles, that being the case all it needs is more cars, tracks and refine the features.

 

[Lawndart]

I'm about to pre-order Shift 2 and will purchase Dirt 3 and Forza 4.

PD need to stop keeping fans in the dark, give us 2010 car packs for Le Mans, Super GT and DTM, historic race cars like Group C, IMSA GTP, Group B and Group A plus of course more tracks.

PD already messed up the game structure and content, there's no excuses not to have a well planned DLC schedule, fans have been waiting five years for this game and like me I'm sure many would happily pay another £50+ for quality DLC.

Potentially there's no need for me to buy another driving game on the PS3 if PD maximise this games potential.

I'm pretty much in this camp too... It's the promise of meaningful, regular updates that are keeping GT5 fresh for me... Otherwise I'm fast approaching the "been their done that" feeling that leads me to put some games down...

GT is by far the best "feeling" driving game out there but other games with more focus and competence in the whole racing aspect of a game are coming up fast... And admittedly these will most likely tide the time while we continue to wait for the ultimate game and simulation...

Shift 2 is the mysterious shadow on the horizon... Boldly stating "best racer" can't be ignored... I worked for EA for 2 years, quite close to (in proximity) the shift 1 team so I did get some intentions of what shift 2 is suppose to be but that was from many months ago... I can say quite confidently they know very well what was wrong with Shift 1... even long before WE did... the handling patch that quietly came out was considered embarrassing to them... Even they hated the menu system and no other GUI interactions, the fact that you couldn't copy liveries to others sides of the car correctly, etc...

And yes, the SimBin console team, the same guys that were suppose to do GTR2 for the console are the same people developing Shift 2... the other SimBin group that did Race for the 360 are completely different...

These guys, along with the EA marketing teams know full well to claim something so great as "the best racer" is very dangerous and if they don't deliver on it they are effectively driving a death nail into the franchise... But then again its also the NFS marketers and that franchise doesn't die no matter how many poor releases... So its a looming, large shadow... One I'm quite looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Oh, and one last detail, Charles Deenen is the audio director and he is one of the finest in the business so don't be surprised if the sounds from the trailer are in fact the same in the game...

 

[AClockworkGrape]

It's far and away the best sim on consoles, that being the case all it needs is more cars, tracks and refine the features.

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

 

[Lawndart]

I wouldn't be so sure of that.

Yeah, I tried to avoid that sentence... it can only lead to the debate of sim vs. racing game... maybe it simulates physics the best but it's effectively 10 years in the past when it comes to game play (not including "feeling" here)... so there really aren't any simple blanket statements that can be said in regard to the GT franchise these days... outside of the "sim" term as a supporting statement...

 

[CodeRedR51]

I'm about to pre-order Shift 2 and will purchase Dirt 3 and Forza 4.

PD need to stop keeping fans in the dark, give us 2010 car packs for Le Mans, Super GT and DTM, historic race cars like Group C, IMSA GTP, Group B and Group A plus of course more tracks.

PD already messed up the game structure and content, there's no excuses not to have a well planned DLC schedule, fans have been waiting five years for this game and like me I'm sure many would happily pay another £50+ for quality DLC.

Potentially there's no need for me to buy another driving game on the PS3 if PD maximise this games potential.

They're not entitled to give us anything. Kaz even said before the game was launched that there would be "no DLC".

I think what we have received so far is more than I ever expected. Let's not get greedy now.

 

[Lawndart]

Yes, the updates are far more than I expected post ship, but the product as a whole was way less than nearly anyone expected...

Go watch any 5 GT promo videos and ask yourself honestly if your playing the same game those videos promised... And for effect, read a few random previews... This is something you have to go back and do as it's not enough to have followed the game to release and eventually compromise as your playing it... you need to go back and get re hyped...

PD won't be getting any mercy from me... And I knew better than to follow GT to release... I heard it was on the shelf and kept my expectation good and low...

 

[Shant J.]

Can someone ask him about GT Award winners, specifically the Abarth and the Camaro? I'd like to know if they'll be DLC.

 

[II IVORBIGUN II]

Yes, the updates are far more than I expected post ship, but the product as a whole was way less than nearly anyone expected...

Go watch any 5 GT promo videos and ask yourself honestly if your playing the same game those videos promised... And for effect, read a few random previews... This is something you have to go back and do as it's not enough to have followed the game to release and eventually compromise as your playing it... you need to go back and get re hyped...

PD won't be getting any mercy from me... And I knew better than to follow GT to release... I heard it was on the shelf and kept my expectation good and low...

Exactly how I and many of my friends feel or I should say felt because some of them have already traded GT5 in.

Such a shame because the actual physics are the best i've played on a console. However the let down for me is virtually everything about GT5 ranging from the poor career mode to the lack of leaderboards. Apart from the seasonal time trials I lack any motivation to do anything else. Only have the 9/24hr endurances left but I can never find the motivation to start these.

Im even thinking of buying TDU 2 and definitively going to buy NFS shift 2.

 

[happycorey]

Yeah the lack of features the game offers is definitely a downfall. It's great, and I'm glad the new things they added, but they kept too much the same. GT needs a make over, and not just the main menu and GT Life screen. The same events, the same layouts. Need more variety and more diversity in racing. Too much to model? Not enough time? For the highest selling Playstation 3 game you would think you would at least double your employees to get the job done in a fashionable manner.

 

[Spagetti69]

GT5 definately got that phantom menace vibe going on.
Loved the original star wars when I were a lad.
Then comes the phantom.

 

[Alex p.]

...but they kept too much the same...

Off topic: ...not. Actually, they changed too much good things into total rubbish. (Less carrer, 20 mil cr. limit and much more). If they kept everything as it was in GT4, then GT5 would have been my favourite so far, but as of now, it is my least favourite of the series.

 

[CodeRedR51]

PD won't be getting any mercy from me... And I knew better than to follow GT to release... I heard it was on the shelf and kept my expectation good and low...

I've followed it forever and still kept my expectations low. It's no super-game but it surely meets my needs. All I want to do is purchase, tune and drive my favorite cars. Hell if GT5 was nothing but time trials I would still be satisfied.

 

[brycepunk]

All I want to do is purchase, tune and drive my favorite cars. Hell if GT5 was nothing but time trials I would still be satisfied.

Amen brother.

 

[Lawndart]

You guys are a minority, and I envy your satisfaction.

I truly did desire GT 5 to be the definitive place for all my car and driving needs... The part that stings the most is it had everything it needed to be just that... plenty of time, plenty of money, and plenty of technical chops...

Pardon my off topic-ness... returning to topic...

 

[Le Mans 88]

They're not entitled to give us anything. Kaz even said before the game was launched that there would be "no DLC".

I think what we have received so far is more than I ever expected. Let's not get greedy now.

Expecting DLC is not being greedy it's the bare minimum expected of a current game.

Much of GT5's content is from the '98-'04 era, for a game released in 2010 I expect contempory LMP, Super GT and DTM cars. It's embarrassing for PD the DTM Championship is based around the same cars featured in GT4, if they had a European director who knew what European gamers wanted they'd not only have contemporary cars they'd have expanded the historic selection to include the E30 M3 and RS500 Cosworth so people could re-create Group A races.

PD cannot operate in a time warp, Shift 2 will feature much of the 2009/10 FIA GT1/3 grid while the Forza series is always bang upto date with the latest road and race models. GT5's content feels dated, classic cars are always welcome but this game is overly reliant on middle of the road models that don't fall into that category.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Expecting DLC is not being greedy it's the bare minimum expected of a current game.

That's the problem with most gamers these days, is they expect "more more more" even after the game is out. What's wrong with waiting for the next one?

 

[Lawndart]

Turbo, this is an ok expectation. Over the past few years with so much product it isn't enough to just sell games anymore so game companies have focused on customer retention. Keeping people engaged and playing the product for as long as possible and developing up-sell opportunities is a core business strategy in our industry.

Though this is not new it is new to this industry and also ties directly in the going fully digital strategy.

So publishers love to hear people want more but PD is a different, somewhat old school group so it's anyones guess what their next step is.

Also, though unprecedented in PDs history the continual deferal of features to GT 6 is an indicator that it could come much sooner than we think...

Regardless of any of this though I anticipate that gt5 will be quite different in just 6 months from now...

 

[Slurm]

Man you would think kaz had announced "no dlc" from the turn this thread has taken. I feel for you guys if you really hate this game so much. It's a good start. It reminds me of GT3 in many ways, and GT6 will be it's GT4. In the meantime the seasonals and minor updates are great. Hoping we get some cars for download in the future, but I can wait for 6, personally.

 

[Lawndart]

Well, many people have announced "no DLC" in the past only to really mean no "PDLC" (paid)

So it's hard to know what he means exactly without knowing what he considered DLC... To Kaz DLC may mean "add-ons" like separate retail product updates... But DLC has traditionally been simpler than add-ons in recent years.

Additionally, the volume of cut content also makes it hard to really know... add the fact that the Red Bull site still has the Pikes Peak blog up, the mention of more standard cars getting the premium treatment, "GT Anywhere" though it was/is a back of the box feature could be argued as an update but not being considered DLC in Kaz's eyes, Kaz has (should be a corporate mandate) to do something when the other main products come out like Forza did... This is a new/er strategy, again with the focus on retention.

Maybe if GT 5 met the majority of peoples expectations and sold 5 million day one copies they could just go dark until GT 6 but as it stands now GT is loosing loyal fans... Yeah we'll all still buy the next one assuming we aren't in a retirement home by then but how much trust was lost? And though we will probably buy the next one... thats it if its not in line with our expectation... Franchises die, and the beginning of those declines starts a lot like this release... As big a Forza fan as I am GT 5 was suppose to thrash it to pieces... But right now they are pretty much on par.

The GT fan base isn't all that young either, we sorta started playing GT1 as young adults... We don't have the same die hard NEED we did when we were younger... but there is a way to create that need by appealing to your core audience, and core audience here is the fans of yesterday, Sony is firmly counting on GT's legacy to sell the game first, then everyone else. "word of mouth" is still the most powerful sales tool...

Think back as a kid, your dad bring home a game like GT... Your a new fan... Not something that happened in my generation but is happening with my kids now.

An assumption; I think the point of "GT Anywhere" is suppose to appeal to the older audience, the people that have real jobs and careers... not the kids that can sit at home for hours on end playing...

The good news? Competition is STIFF!!! And if you stop thinking of just GT and think more as a console racing gamer, we have never been so lucky in the past with all the racing games lately and others coming... You could say that GT laid the foundation that everyone else is trying to build the best game on... but it's an old foundation so there is still a lot of trial and error going on before the industry has solid demographics for "Casual, hard core, driving vs. racing, sim vs. immersion, etc." But it appears there is enough of each to keep investing in this "retail R&D".

10 years ago having the most cars or most tracks was enough... now we need more, we want the feeling, all the licenses, and all the complex structure we find in other products...

Needless to say, as a console racer, the future looks GREAT!!!

Hey, sorry for taking this thread so far off topic... :/ And for the "Stream of conscience" writing...

 

[HerrFrisch]

some new tweets from the man
any translate?

What about those tweets? Can anyone post them here?
I thought that this was the purpose of this thread, instead of discussing how good/bad the game is and whether DLC will be reality.

 

[Le Mans 88]

That's the problem with most gamers these days, is they expect "more more more" even after the game is out. What's wrong with waiting for the next one?

Either PD matches and hopefully exceeds what the competition provides or the GT series loses it's console sim crown.

GT5 gamers have money in their pocket waiting for PD to maximise the potential of this game with DLC but yet again they appear to be lagging behind the times in terms of what is expected from a modern console game.

Most frustratingly you couldn't ask for a more suitable DLC platform than a driving sim.

Back to the topic of this thread it's verging on the ridiculous fans are having to translate tweets to get an idea of what is happening. Europe is the GT series biggest market, PD's European department needs to get a PR team and be in direct contract with KY.