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Do you guys think we should open a second division?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 63.2%
  • No

    Votes: 7 36.8%

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With TC set to off, damage set to cosmetic and Tyres simulation off, you're asking for someone to barge into you and with that, the realism is gone. Secondly, no one will suffer a penalty of any kind for reckless driving

Turn TC ON, set damage to full, Turn on Tyre Simulation and i doubt many players will think twice about making contact with another car, If they did, most likely they will suffer a damaged wing or a puncture or even a DNF.

It will also stop anyone from trying those impossible, outrageous late braking maneuvers as if they do try, they'll simply lock up run wide and their tyres will be shot.

If you want to spice it up a little and make it more challenging, thats what should be done. Just some suggestions, Not criticizing 👍
 
With TC set to off, damage set to cosmetic and Tyres simulation off, you're asking for someone to barge into you and with that, the realism is gone. Secondly, no one will suffer a penalty of any kind for reckless driving

Turn TC ON, set damage to full, Turn on Tyre Simulation and i doubt many players will think twice about making contact with another car, If they did, most likely they will suffer a damaged wing or a puncture or even a DNF.

It will also stop anyone from trying those impossible, outrageous late braking maneuvers as if they do try, they'll simply lock up run wide and their tyres will be shot.

If you want to spice it up a little and make it more challenging, thats what should be done. Just some suggestions, Not criticizing 👍

Well putting TC on wont make it much more realistic or even more challenging. It makes it easier IMO ...

The thing about the damage and tyre sim thing is:

We did not know where the punctures came from, so we put both off, tyre sim and damage.

I just played a lot with tyre sim on and damage to cosmetic. I had no punctures at all, so we could put on tyre sim again. But i think we can not put on full damage if we dont want random punctures :(
 
We will discuss giving tyre sim ON a go again. Driving on options for 19 or 20 laps is really lame lol
 
The puncture thing would in reality effect you all equally.
Offline I suppose it could be a bummer but good navigation of the track should avoid that.

Just thoughts.
 
IMO we really need tyre sim on and damage set to full. We do need a deterrent as has already been said to stop barging and crazy manouvres. I pitted after 7 laps in the last race and put on the primes which gave expected poorer grip, but people seemed able to use the options for many more laps with no problem. Tyre sim must surely have to go back on. I've raced online with tyre sim on and had barely any punctures. When I did it seemed to be caused by locking up under braking etc which is driver error.
Please grafpt, consider the following and I'm sure the series will go from strength to strength.....
Tyre sim on
Damage full
50% race distance at least
TC available (i use a G25 and playseat and never use it but each to their own)
I'm enjoying the series anyway and will be there to the end but think these suggestions could make things fairer and result in more realistic and considerate racing.
 
Interesting to see that grafpt's tournament organising style is matched by his driving style. Explain 1 minute 45 seconds.
Also, your responses to Capt Roh are not becoming of a series organiser.

Yes, that was one incident after rewatching I realized it knocked him off, at the time, it looked like we just bumped and his car was straight.

Capt Roh, lash out at me was not becoming of a member. Why am I at fault for his race?

And your response isn't becoming of a Mod, your bashing me.

If I was videoing myself and that was the result, I'd lose the file. I certainly wouldn't post it up online.

In the first lap alone you took three other drivers out, drove straight up the back of another and left the track unaided thrice.

Your series, your rules. But if you're going to punish people for bad driving and expect other people to stick with your series, driving around like Takuma Sato in charge of a MIRV isn't going to help.


You must be watching a different video... I was bumped into yamahakid on turn 1 and I still slowed down a little to let cars get back to order and when I saw p1Timo going I went. At 55 secs you will see I had a nice run (close) but yamahakid tap me just enough that I didn't make that pass. It was ME driving into the back of him.

And at 1:12 you see Capt Roh take a nice left into ME, not me taking him out.

I wouldn't like to be close to you, when you are "racing". :lol:

Im sure your much better.


First of all, apart from expressing how I felt about grafpt taking more time setting up a stream than organising participants, where exactly did i point fingers and name names? Concerning what happened on track I mean. Find a post and let me know.

No post, your driving, you took a nice left and took me out. Thanks

This. In the first video you posted of the trial race you wrote, and i quote 'Here's video of the start of the race lol This cant be happening imo'. Yet just up there you've done a complete 180 and basically said sh** happens get over it!
Its been the story of the whole of this thread. Lets not forget it took a moderator to come in here and bring some order. Nothing I've said has been unjust, you change your mind as often as I change my socks and its no wonder most people didnt know what was going on.

I apologize for not knowing how to control when people post or what they feel they need to post about, I need to learn that I guess.

I have to say, knowing everyone else will see the video for themselves i think either you're blind or in denial on this one. How many people were you trying to take out on that opening lap!?

Again, I only ended up taking NIRO out because I thought his car ended up straight, I should I looked at mini map and saw in fact it didn't.... OH YA you did manage to take me out, have i mentioned that yet?

First off, you spun YAMAHAKID around in the first corner, you clearly did, even though on the video there looked to be a good half car of clear air between you. (LAG maybe?) Then coming up the hill into turn 4 we had our three way drag race. I knew people would be on the outside of 4 so I went tight, I didnt want to turn into the apex of 5 incase I hit someone either so went wide, yet you still come through hell for leather and take me off too. Again, looks like clear air on the video but you obviously hit me. I can tell you I definately felt the impact on my end as well! Then, still on the first lap, you drove straight into the HRT without even a rear view check to see if you'd taken him off!

I've express responses to this already, your just trying to bash me. You'll notice MY car gets bumped causing me to hit yamahakid.
Again, looks like clear air on the video but you obviously hit me.

HAHA at that quote.

I must at this point note too that I saw you take out cashbroke in this video, and you did slow to let him take back the position. However 1 right doesnt right 3 wrongs does it, too little too late imo.

No it made up for my 1 mistake with NITRO.

I'm going to ignore the blatent disrespect of the AUP, but you're basing this on what? The part where you pit maneuvered me off track?

Again? Really? You better watch the video again lol

I watched the video man, and let me tell you, it takes no skill in driving round with TC, cutting corners and generally going off course in every other turn. You know nothing of my online credentials. I race A LOT! With registered and verified GTP tagged members. You can go into any of the race events and someone will testify as to how clean and fair a racer I am. Its EXPECTED!

In one of your posts above you said EVEYONE hit SOMEONE. Well I have to disagree! I didnt hit a soul! Not once. And it isnt hard. I'm USED to racing fair and clean. Last night was just carnage! Also, hands up who didnt see me get clean off the racing line when you all were lapping me? Yes I was annoyed, and so couldnt be bothered to race, but I still have respect for track etiquette and the racers out there. I moved over for every single one of you. AND, I went the race distance out of respect for everyone else as well. Everyone knows this, so the next unfounded quote is also just total blatent troll baiting.

Only GamePad players had TC on. And ya, you hit me.

I'm sure you completely ignored it the first time, but like I said before, the effort of creating a championship for us all to have fun was appreciated. I hope you get all these issues ironed out because its a great game and you guys should be able to have a lot of fun.

We are having fun. First races are always tough. This "dirt 2 like" racing will not exist anymore. Shame to see you go.

Sorry if there are a few type/ grammer errors. All that quoting was trippy on the eyes haha
 
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Well if we put on full damage, we will have that random punctures again. Wasnt that the reason we just restarted it? I am getting confused now, what people really want ...
 
It all comes down to this game being a POS lol It REALLY does. It's impossible to work around all the flaws.
 
IMO we really need tyre sim on and damage set to full. We do need a deterrent as has already been said to stop barging and crazy manouvres. I pitted after 7 laps in the last race and put on the primes which gave expected poorer grip, but people seemed able to use the options for many more laps with no problem. Tyre sim must surely have to go back on. I've raced online with tyre sim on and had barely any punctures. When I did it seemed to be caused by locking up under braking etc which is driver error.
Please grafpt, consider the following and I'm sure the series will go from strength to strength.....
Tyre sim on
Damage full
50% race distance at least
TC available (i use a G25 and playseat and never use it but each to their own)
I'm enjoying the series anyway and will be there to the end but think these suggestions could make things fairer and result in more realistic and considerate racing.

I have spoke out as to the attrition factor that has to be some part of racing especially for a series as long as this one. I know It will bite me at some point, but I know that I have to adjust for the fuel thing and I feel a little bit better after this last week but I just know that it will ruin more of my racing and hopefully I can figure it out before it bites me again. The damage thing is for sure to bite a big hole in my rear end but if that is what I have to learn and the fast guys have it already figured out then they will keep taking me to task until I have it understood. Unfortunately I need it to help me at the expense of others, but that is what the reality thing has to be if it’s going to be a realistic experience.
 
You must be watching a different video...

You had three collisions with other drivers resulting in them spinning - yamahakid (0:50), Shin_Roh (1:12) and nitrovious (1:45). You drove straight up the back of GTP_Timo (0:55) and twice left the track entirely of your own making (2:14 and 2:26). To say nothing of you smacking wheels with Timo all the way up the "straight" after you hit the back of him right up until you took Shin_Roh out.

Do you deny the evidence of your own video?


And at 1:12 you see Capt Roh take a nice left into ME, not me taking him out.

At 1:12 your video shows your car turning to the left and, as the wheels straighten, smashing into the side of the car to your right. Your wheels straighten, then the crash occurs.

Do you deny the evidence of your own video?

You're telling people to "race clean" and saying you'll take action against people who don't, but you did enough things in the first lap of this race, according to your own video, to ban yourself from the GTP_Registry twice. As I say, it's your series and your rules, but I wouldn't even consider driving in a series that accepted that display from a driver, much less the organiser.

I'd be embarrassed to post that video - unless I was using it as evidence against someone... All of your collisions come as the result of diving it up the inside hopefully and relying on other cars getting out of your way or helping you round the turn.
 
Yes, that was one incident after rewatching I realized it knocked him off, at the time, it looked like we just bumped and his car was straight.
You didn't look back to check. You didn't check the map to see him spearing off into the gravel.

Capt Roh, lash out at me was not becoming of a member. Why am I at fault for his race?
He raised valid points about the race, albeit in an unnecessarily sweary fashion, which you completely ignored and all you could respond with was that "he was an embarrassment and couldn't drive." Well, look in the mirror dude.

He was mostly bashing your series, with justification, but you're taking it too personally and getting too emotionally involved. You as a driver is not you as a series organiser.

And your response isn't becoming of a Mod, your bashing me.
Your series (so far) is an embarrassment to GTP, and I'm entitled to put my point of view across.
 
You had three collisions with other drivers resulting in them spinning - yamahakid (0:50), Shin_Roh (1:12) and nitrovious (1:45). You drove straight up the back of GTP_Timo (0:55) and twice left the track entirely of your own making (2:14 and 2:26). To say nothing of you smacking wheels with Timo all the way up the "straight" after you hit the back of him right up until you took Shin_Roh out.

Do you deny the evidence of your own video?[/color][/b]

Your kidding me right? He takes me out!


At 1:12 your video shows your car turning to the left and, as the wheels straighten, smashing into the side of the car to your right. Your wheels straighten, then the crash occurs.

Do you deny the evidence of your own video?

NO, I explained. I had a close run to pass p1Timo, and it was an awkward situation and the timing was horrible and unavoidable. I was going to pass him on the left but yamaha came right up and tapped me just enough that I hit p1timo.


Your series (so far) is an embarrassment to GTP, and I'm entitled to put my point of view across.
Bashing again? :(
 
Your kidding me right? He takes me out!

The crash occurs as you straighten your wheels. Your course changes immediately prior to the crash.

Your video puts you at fault. Pull it up on slow-motion or do it frame-by-frame if you like.


NO, I explained. I had a close run to pass p1Timo, and it was an awkward situation and the timing was horrible and unavoidable. I was going to pass him on the left but yamaha came right up and tapped me just enough that I hit p1timo.

1:12 is when you hit Shin_Roh - though you had so many crashes on lap 1, you'd be forgiven for mixing them up.
 
Phew........ that was one ugly video right there from the OP. Have to agree wholeheartedly with Famine and Daan on the driving etiquette on display in relation to the AUP also...... whilst not a GTP tagged member, i am mindful of my actions online on track and the repercussions of those actions.

Grafpt, i'd reconsider your current stance at the moment regarding your efforts in that race.. and your driving style. Cutting off the rumble strip and running wide due to a consistent early apex is not the most sensible way to race cleanly i'm afraid.

I can't see this series lasting to be honest.
 
I was going to pass him on the left but yamaha came right up and tapped me just enough that I hit p1timo.


Honestly noone could avoid that situation when we just drove side by side. You had no place on the left, on the other side wasnt much place too.

I would even say that i was causing the little hits, because i was forced to grafs direction and didnt really want to hit anyone. But it wasnt possible to avoid it because there was not enough place at all. That just happens ...

And I think its the same situation after the corner, you cant just avoid it. To me it honestly looks more like Roh is doing a little steer to the left side and the result was, that grafs front left wheel touches rohs car.

BUT at that speed the cars just react immense sensitive, sothat sometimes things happen, you dont really want ...

I am not sure, wheter all those, who are getting in the discussion here, have the game. Its not the same like GT5 Prologue. With that cars u have much more time to react and if you come too fast to a corner, you can mostly avoid crashing into barrier, or not cutting the corner. F1 is much faster and that even happens to me sometimes, although i dont want it ...

Sry for my bad engish btw :( Hope u understood me ...
 
I think you made a verry good obversation Timo...👍
And I was in the "Cat Bird Seat"

This is my PM to graf:

I looked at you video frame by frame for the part that I described earlier, my description was fairly close but your vid is definitely clearer. IMO when you were going through the left hander you got to the middle of the track and all movement had stopped going from the left towards CR’s car, if you look at where Timo is he is way to the right preparing to enter 6/7. Timo’s location shows that there is more track to the right of CR, he stopped moving right and tried to open up his entry going into 6. It was not your obligation to give any more room considering that his momentum would have taken him towards Timo giving him the right to be where his momentum would have brought him too, and you would have had to yield to his position. That apparently wasn’t good enough for him as he elected to roll into an area that he knew or should have known might have been filled w/ another car to try to do what? Was he going to pass Timo ? No, he just turned across your line and Wah La. Lefty moves into 3rd.
 
Listen I'm not in this series but I regularly check in to see the latest episode in this series.

I'm not bashing or taking sides but let's leave the people participating to raise arguments or questions.

I know we all have opinions but if the participating members are ok with the their or other members driving. Let's leave them to it eh.

Captain roh was fully entitled to his opinion as he was participating and earned the right to voice it.

Just saying that's all.
 
Of coarse he was. It was just ironic it always comes from the guy in last. I think it's beyond judgemental for that kind o reaction after onw race. This game isn't built like GT at all. It's a completely different game, driving wise and managing wise. And personally if you've never played the game you have zero say.

And the series will go on btw.
 
Listen I'm not in this series but I regularly check in to see the latest episode in this series.

I'm not bashing or taking sides but let's leave the people participating to raise arguments or questions.

I know we all have opinions but if the participating members are ok with the their or other members driving. Let's leave them to it eh.

Captain roh was fully entitled to his opinion as he was participating and earned the right to voice it.

Just saying that's all.

Of coarse he was. It was just ironic it always comes from the guy in last. I think it's beyond judgemental for that kind o reaction after onw race. This game isn't built like GT at all. It's a completely different game, driving wise and managing wise. And personally if you've never played the game you have zero say.

And the series will go on btw.

A member of staff has every right to voice their concerns and indentify faults in a race series being run on GTP. Even more so when we recieve reported posts relating to this series.

Sadly this series is doomed to failure unless drastic measures are taken as soon as possible. As a member of the OLR race admin who has organised a very high number of race events I would strongly advise the organisers of this event to consider yesterdays race and the following race as a warm up event before starting the race series proper. Learn from the last race and the following race, make changes after indentifying the problem areas and only proceed further once you are certain they will work, because at this time, they clearly don't.
 
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Oh I fully understand that staff have every right to post their thoughts, I'm just certainly not used to the mods being so harsh, attacking, or ganging up on. I have run many race series before (hold the slander), though I'm sure no where near your amount Sphinx. And I have to say doing it through a community is zero picnic. I'm not sure how you do it, maybe because your "official" so people just act the correct way. I can only imagine a huge part of any of this is because I'm new to the community (posting wise) and it's like "fresh meat". The ability to only allow those who are in the series to have their say, (and mods of coarse) would be a lovely feature. The reason why this series has gone hey wire, is largely due to people just strolling through the F1 forums and posting their thoughts. And as you saw with captain mentioning the time situation, the time had never changed and was the same time as the week before. No one had an issue until someone popped it saying it was wrong, when it in fact was not. I chose to host the series here rather than my own website because I thought the community was the most ideal place to do so, but not that I'm wrong, It's just not what I expected at all. I am speaking with a few drivers who are in the series about helping me polish this off. Otherwise it will end on this site. I just can't express enough though that the game limitations do not make this an easy or enjoyable task by any means. From the physics actually being different online than offline to ZERO replay or spectating, there is really only so many ANYONE can do.
 
I have been reading this thread with great interest. I have seen the video and yes there is some driving etiquette to be learnt however like some I don't blame graft. After lap 5 it seems everything had levelled out and the race progressed from there. The first corner was plagued by errors however a few practice runs to sort out settings would be good. Feel free to add me bazevo69. If a second championship runs or a reserve list then feel free to add. Stick with it!
 
This thread will close soon. I will open a new one for the Melbourne race.
 
Iagree with Sphinx on the matter. At least he didn't pop into this thread and start bashing grafpt's driving and calling it a disgrace to GTPlanet. He gave some useful info to follow.


Right now, as things stand, we know that clollisions between drivers is much too common, with no one acknowledging the rules. Solution: give out penalties to drivers who fail to stop and wait for drivers they knock off. Grafpt, you're not immune to the rules either, keep it clean. Also, damage must be set to full, that is, whether punctures are a part of damage or tyre simulation. Also, you should treat this race as a warm-up race rather than a championship race. Now that you know what you should fix, fix it now, and do Bahrain next week again, where we should expect a clean, race, hopefully.



Just saw you're post. DON'T open a new thread for the Melbourne race, we can't be done here. In fact, don't open a new thread at all. Keep it all in one thread. That's how it always was in F1:CE, and it keeps everything in one place.
 
There WILL NOT BE A RESTART!!

As I have expressed, I CAN'T watch everything, GT5 will be a godsend for people that host races, but it's a shame this game doesn't even have a replay feature -_-. It is up to you guys to give me a full report of the drivers names once race has ended, not rant about everything with no details. Actions can not be taken if details are not given.

This series will go on and will be fun. There's no reason for it not to.

The rules in the OP will be fully updated, and not sure why this couldn't happen the first time, but they WILL BE IT. ZERO questions asked.
 
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Do the tyre punctures relate to tyre simulation or damage set on full? Because I mean, if you want to rid of punters, damage is the way to go, but we can't do that because of tyre punctures.


Also, Ferrari, mine?
 
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