LCC Rocket Spot Race Series (stock) - March 23rd, 10pm GMTOpen
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- MC-Chase
Contrary to popular belief we don't all drink tea. Personally I can't stand it.
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- Devintheninja504
it was fun i'll have to join again. blah i screwed up a lot lol
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Taking the moment to apologize for the divebomb, @BayouSimDrifter. Either that or punting you off.
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- MC-Chase
Thanks for showing! Never had problems like we had today, and we were most a grid down - I think partially due to the track, hope to catch you at Trial-Mountain!
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- Devintheninja504
all good bro i was plagued with mistakes. once i made one when following @MC-Chase i couldnt stop making them
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- Nemesis-Reaper
Plagued by technical problems today, going to find an answer to the disappearing car problem! Gratz to Hobbsy, taking a lap 9 pit-stop to avoid being on my own all race left me sweet FA rubber at the end
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Despite the low numbers, and a third of which not being in the same race
That was still good fun (for me anyway) One hell-a-va chase hunting down 1st place... I could have sworn @MC-Chase was letting me catch up at times, but after looking quickly at the replay its appears as though there may have been some tyre issues!!! Keep an eye on theRace Report for that one!
Thanks to all for racing, until next time...
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- MC-Chase
Took up to lap 9 easy, braked early, short shifted at times to keep the tires nice and clean, rapidly got bored. Did a pit-stop with the intention of being back in the field and able to have a few battles before everyone else shot in for their own pit, had a battle with LQ, then a brief encounter with Bayou, everyone went in the pits, I still kept it clean all race (think I briefly touched the sand on turn one once) but at lap 30 I just didn't have any rubber - LQ was in front of me but I just didn't have the pace to pass in the last couple of laps, final corner i had to shoot in early to force a pass, blocked, failed, decided it wasn't a fair move.
So in answer to your question Hobbsy no i wasn't letting anyone catch up - though I didn't make an advantage of my early lead and deliberately threw an early pit with the intention of seeking a bit of action, I can assure you my last 15 laps of pace was all I could get from the car, the replay from my perspective will make this extremely obvious I guarantee 
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So in answer to your question Hobbsy no i wasn't letting anyone catch up - though I didn't make an advantage of my early lead and deliberately threw an early pit with the intention of seeking a bit of action, I can assure you my last 15 laps of pace was all I could get from the car
, the replay from my perspective will make this extremely obvious I guarantee .
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- MC-Chase
Bonsoir ladies/gentlemen,
Having a think about extending the calendar being as everyones pretty happy sticking with the Rocket. I have a few ideas for re-visiting some of the tracks we're already done and including a couple of new ones, but I'd like to hear what everyone would like to see. Brandon mentioned a few of the Silverstone tracks might be viable in future, so I'm probably going to extend the calendar with these;
- Tsukuba MotoGP Circuit (we'll be running the chicane after the bridge)
- Brands-Hatch GP circuit
- 1 of or both of the larger Silverstone circuits (dependent on viability)
When these are done I was thinking of removing the "vehicle modification prohibited" rule from the rooms. I only want to do this so we can change the gearbox (and ONLY the gearbox!) - I'll set a set of ratios everyone must use, and by doing this we could visit some of the bigger circuits like Spa and Suzuka. Unfortunately there's no way to check people are only changing the gearbox - but I think everyone here is trustworthy enough to follow the rules
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Let me know what you think!
Having a think about extending the calendar being as everyones pretty happy sticking with the Rocket. I have a few ideas for re-visiting some of the tracks we're already done and including a couple of new ones, but I'd like to hear what everyone would like to see. Brandon mentioned a few of the Silverstone tracks might be viable in future, so I'm probably going to extend the calendar with these;
- Tsukuba MotoGP Circuit (we'll be running the chicane after the bridge)
- Brands-Hatch GP circuit
- 1 of or both of the larger Silverstone circuits (dependent on viability)
When these are done I was thinking of removing the "vehicle modification prohibited" rule from the rooms. I only want to do this so we can change the gearbox (and ONLY the gearbox!) - I'll set a set of ratios everyone must use, and by doing this we could visit some of the bigger circuits like Spa and Suzuka. Unfortunately there's no way to check people are only changing the gearbox - but I think everyone here is trustworthy enough to follow the rules
.Let me know what you think!
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If we are to keep the Rocket on stock, Silverstone (Inter-)National would be best. Brands GP is a nice addition, I personally really like it. I'd also like to suggest Big Willow, it's one of my favourites in the game.
But how would we keep people from running the chicane on Tsukuba?
But how would we keep people from running the chicane on Tsukuba?
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- MC-Chase
Big Willow would entirely be possible with the gearbox modification yes. As for Tsukuba we wouldn't be able to stop anyone. I'd just clarify with everyone the race track for that event includes the chicane, and if you miss it then it's your responsibility to slow down enough to cancel out any time advantage you would have received. Don't think it will be an issue to be honest.
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- Naptown25rs
I've done kart races with the moto chicane at Tsukuba, and once you get used to it, it's like second nature. It'll be pretty obvious either by sight or time if anyone skips it. Never been an issue before as long as you have an honest group of folks.
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- MC-Chase
I'd like to hear your opinion on the gearbox addition Naptown; what do you think? Good? Bad?
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- Naptown25rs
Seems reasonable to me... I'm not as anti-tuning as some people. Again, as long as you have a good group of trustworthy dudes it shouldn't be a problem. I'd say you'd have to use the performance limiters to get the settings as close to stock specs as possible since you are allowing tuning and there's always the chance that someone might be tempted to add a few extra HP/PP.
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- BrandonW77
The current crowd seems gentlemanly enough but my concern is that it would attract people who aren't so trustworthy. By allowing tuning you are basically allowing any and all tuning and there's very little you can do to police it. When cheating can be done with virtually no chance of getting caught........who knows what kind of people it would attract. All it would take is one or two bad apples to run off the fine group of gentleman drivers you've assembled here.
I would recommend revisiting the same tracks we've used but changing the format, perhaps a short sprint race followed by a longer race with reverse grid so it mixes up the action. If things get stale after that then maybe open it up to full tuning. Or if the majority wants to allow gearbox tuning for the next "series" then by all means give it a shot.
Just my $.02 USD (exchange rates may vary). 👍
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In order to counter the power tuning, restrict PP, HP and weight to stock. That way only things that can be tuned are suspension, gearbox and drivetrain. But you'll still need to trust people to change only gearbox.
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- MC-Chase
Agreed, if anyone uses a high capacity clutch / mass reduced flywheel affair though we will see them have a clear advantage on the straights, and if that's the case - ban. Similarly with suspension geometry and differential settings, i think it will be obvious enough.
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- BrandonW77
I'm of the other opinion, I'm pretty sure I could make some minor adjustments that would net me a couple tenths per lap that would go unnoticed by scrutinizing. And I'm rubbish at tuning. Pro-tuners could probably hide all kinds of little advantages. It would be easy to mask a straightline advantage during normal race conditions and only utilize them when necessary. I'm not saying I would ever do such a thing but I'm sure plenty of people would.
This is just my opinion though and my opinion rarely jives with the majority so don't put too much weight in it. I wouldn't be very keen on participating but if the majority wants to give it a go I say have at it and see how it works.
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- MC-Chase
I've decided to give it a 'test' at Suzuka at the end of the season - open only to individuals who are already with us . Obviously if anyone doesn't want to join because of the potential means for cheating that's totally fine and normal service will resume afterwards .
. Obviously if anyone doesn't want to join because of the potential means for cheating that's totally fine and normal service will resume afterwards .
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- BrandonW77
I certainly wasn't trying to imply anyone here would cheat, in our brief time together this seems like a real stand-up group. And I'm not trying to discourage you from trying to improve the series or anything of the sort. I've had a couple bad experiences with un-policed tuning so I'm just trying to point out the possible negatives.
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- Slalom823
Also, I personally don't have a problem redoing tracks we have already done. I wouldn't want to do the same track several weeks in a row, but cycling through all of them with some duplicates seems fine. I should be available this weekend, but once again will miss the next. See you guys then.
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- MC-Chase
Nah, of course not! I'm sure no one was thinking that was what you meant, I sure didn't read it that way anyway! With the stand-up group of individuals this group is honoured with though I think a test is certainly worth a try. As I said though it'll only be open to us veterans of the series so we won't have any unknown quantities in terms of honesty with us.
so we won't have any unknown quantities in terms of honesty with us.
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- BrandonW77
Agreed. The only concern is having other people who haven't raced with us join up with the intentions of exploiting the loopholes. It might be possible to catch cheaters but it might take a few races to notice and by that some damage could be done. Or maybe I'm just a Negative Nancy. 
One idea is to take the group of trusted drivers to a private league. The new PM system on GTP basically works like a private thread, you could send a group PM to all of us and from there it basically works like a thread but nobody else can see it. I realize that might be a bit extreme but recent experiences with the group PM on here made me realize a private series could easily be done now, an "invitational" if you will.
Anyway, for the record I agree with Slalom. I think we can add Silverstone National and International (GP is iffy) to the schedule and just run back through them all. It takes a couple months to get through the approved track list so we'd probably all be ready to revisit them by then. And we do have some good ones on the list. I'll test more and see if we can get a few more on the list. Maybe for the second trip through the circuits we do two 20-25 minute races instead of one long race so we all get more door-to-door action in a night? That's an easy way to add some excitement. 👍
One idea is to take the group of trusted drivers to a private league. The new PM system on GTP basically works like a private thread, you could send a group PM to all of us and from there it basically works like a thread but nobody else can see it. I realize that might be a bit extreme but recent experiences with the group PM on here made me realize a private series could easily be done now, an "invitational" if you will.
Anyway, for the record I agree with Slalom. I think we can add Silverstone National and International (GP is iffy) to the schedule and just run back through them all. It takes a couple months to get through the approved track list so we'd probably all be ready to revisit them by then. And we do have some good ones on the list. I'll test more and see if we can get a few more on the list. Maybe for the second trip through the circuits we do two 20-25 minute races instead of one long race so we all get more door-to-door action in a night? That's an easy way to add some excitement. 👍
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