LeMONS to LeMANS Race Series -- Season Ended

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I just ran a few laps at Grand Valley East Reverse with a bunch of different cars. I was using the controller so there is plenty more time to squeeze out...but I didn't have time to plug in the wheel and run clean hot laps. Anyway, here is my findings...

1:16.xxx '99 Impreza Coupe
1:16.xxx '01 Lancer EVO
1:18.xxx '93 Skyline GTR
1:19.xxx '07 RX-8 (premium)

On Comfort tires, the Impreza likes to drift. It feels the fastest due to its low weight and will likely be very quick at our Autumn Ring warm-up. The EVO likes to push. As soon as you get on the gas it goes straight. Turn in isn't too bad as long as you use just the right amount of trail braking (not easy with the controller but I'll manage better with the wheel and pedals). The Skyline pushes as well and due to its price (was exactly 30k in my UCD) the lack of mods makes it slower on the straight. The RX-8 feels great since it originally came with comfort tires...but its gearing is too tall for GV-E. It might be able to make up time in the turns but will definitely fall short in the straights.

I think I'm going to run the EVO for the series. Everyone else is picking Subarus so I might as well mix it up a bit. BTW, AWD is definitely an advantage on these comfort tires...but once we move up in grip the RWD cars may be able to rotate the car a little better and gain time in the turns.

I hope everyone is practicing w/o the driving line on. It will be off for the race. The only aids that will be allowed are ABS and TCS, although I recommend having TCS off if you want to run faster lap times.
 
diabolicwyvern
I only know my car will be Japanese. Are we allowing Race modification if the funds are present?
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Yes, if you want to save your winnings from 3 races to purchase the RM (most likely it will be about 125,000cr) then you are welcome to do that...but I think it will be a huge sacrifice to give up any sort of mods for 3 races.
 
I'd like to try the S15, but I'm not sure if it's worth sacrificing the grip available with AWD cars in the first few races. So many different options...
 
chuyler1
1:16.xxx '99 Impreza Coupe
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I've decided to go with the 99 Coupe (there was a second in the UCD, and I was leaning that way). I'm putting together a Google doc ledger, with the price and all the parts. I'll email you that.

I didn't do reverse, but I was only able to get 1:18s on Grand Valley East. I did find a grove, and I can do 47s at Autumn Ring Mini.

I do have 10K to spend, though. I may do weight reduction or opt for the limited slip differential. I'm going try both options on my test car to see which I like better.

So, Wednesday's race is going to be 60-80 laps?
 
Vol Jbolaz
I'm putting together a Google doc ledger, with the price and all the parts. I'll email you that.
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You don't have to go to great lengths. I have a google spreadsheet that I am using to track everything. Once the first race is complete I will make it public for others to see. Each week i will update it with points, winnings, and mods that each driver installs. The mods will not be public until after each race in case some drivers want to keep their selections private.

Vol Jbolaz
I do have 10K to spend, though. I may do weight reduction or opt for the limited slip differential. I'm going try both options on my test car to see which I like better.
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Wow, the one I found didn't have that much spending allowance.
Vol Jbolaz
So, Wednesday's race is going to be 60-80 laps?
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Yes. Lets do 60 laps. That will be enough to play out tire strategy and the occasional accident.

yellomello
Can I still join
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Yes, please send your car selection and list of mods totalling no more than 30,000 credits to chris(at)huyler.net before 12:00PM EDT tomorrow. I noticed you are from Australia. This week is the pre-season warmup. If there are lag issues with you connecting to a US server I may have to disqualify you. We'll see how it goes though. I have had issues with people from Japan in the past.
 
It's jimmy here. Are we still all good for tomorrow? I've been looking to change my car but the posibilities are endless.. go with a car with possible less speed but good tuning possibility or go all out for speed to begin with
 
I have an open lobby up if anyone wants to practice: 1472-6681-3158-0097-6349

Aside from that, feel free to friend me if you want (PSN a_garris). Later tomorrow I'll be sharing my series car (in white) and my test car (in black).
 
AHHH, you better count me out for this one.
Just a half hour too late for me.
Sorry guys.
 
chuyler1
Yes, please send your car selection and list of mods totalling no more than 30,000 credits to chris(at)huyler.net before 12:00PM EDT tomorrow.
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Would you mind posting on the front page a few hours before the final time line, who's info you have received. I don't check the email I used very often, and want to make sure you received it.

Oh, and to update the price of my vehicle. It was 26,829. Not sure why granturismo.net shows this car ranging from 29k-35k credits. I bought a second one from the same UCD page as a test car for 27,xxx credits. Anyways, I have a picture on my cell phone I can send you.
 
I have received a bunch of emails. I will reply to them and then post a roster on the front page this afternoon.

It appears that the values at mygranturismo are a little high on some cars. If you are going with those prices, you may want to see if you can find the same car for less in the UCD by loading a few races and checking back to see the new inventory.
 
Is it alright if I submit my car at like 3pm? I'm stuck in class until then. I messaged you on ps3 but I had to leave before I got a response.
 
Yeah that's fine. Tonight is the pre-season race so it isn't too much of a big deal. It's more of a trial to see how drivers behave on the track and how the regulations play out.

Some people are opting to hold off on spending their extra cash until after the pre-season race. I suppose this is fine...however I don't want people swapping cars between tonight's race and the official start. That would only cause people to pick the same car. The reward system is designed to give different drivers an edge on each race so if you feel your car is slow at the season opener, don't worry, it'll get faster.

BTW, I've been doing some practice laps at GV-E reverse. I am loving this track on comfort tires. The car I picked is a blast to throw into turns...however I may have to cool down my laps in order to conserve tires during the actual race. I was in practice mode though...so I hope the handling is close in online mode...I guess I'll find out tonight.

Oh, and I thought of another thing. It might be fun for the first few races to paint our cars with matte colors to denote the "used" look. Then we can switch to better paints as the season progresses. Sound fun?
 
I'm going to be about an hour late sending the car info today. I have to locate my camera and and sd card during my lunch hour to send the pic
 
I'm most likely going to buy the Golf 4 if it is under $30k, i dont have time to mess with it right now, i'll message you before the race or we can chat about it in the lobby?
 
chuyler1
Oh, and I thought of another thing. It might be fun for the first few races to paint our cars with matte colors to denote the "used" look. Then we can switch to better paints as the season progresses. Sound fun?
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I like the black/white thing I have going with my cars. Besides, I don't even know if I have any matte paints.

Another question: I am assuming that there is no reward money for tonight's race, so whatever we run tonight is pretty much what we run next week. Is that right?

p.s. I took my car, kitted, out for a spin on GVE-R. I'd never been on the course, so it took me a few laps to learn my way around. On lap six was got 1:17.2, and was able to stay in the 1:17 groove. I did get a 1:16.8. That was luck. I tried it again and wound up with a 1:23.5.
 
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diabolicwyvern
I'm going to be about an hour late sending the car info today. I have to locate my camera and and sd card during my lunch hour to send the pic
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That's fine. As long as you get it to me before 5:00.

grenadeshark
Check your PM Chuyler, my car is sitting there, not in your email.
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Got it :) No mods yet though?

polizei
I'm most likely going to buy the Golf 4 if it is under $30k, i dont have time to mess with it right now, i'll message you before the race or we can chat about it in the lobby?
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Just have a photo of the car in the dealership to prove the price to everyone.

Vol Jbolaz
I like the black/white thing I have going with my cars. Besides, I don't even know if I have any matte paints.
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That's fine...it was just a suggestion. I only have a few matte colors so I'm not sure I want to use one only to change it later.
Another question: I am assuming that there is no reward money for tonight's race, so whatever we run tonight is pretty much what we run next week. Is that right?
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Correct, there is no reward money tonight. It is just a pre-season warm up for drivers to play out tire strategy as well as get a feel for damage-full and other settings. Penalties will be off to force drivers to make clean passes when lapping other drivers...but don't take it as an excuse to start mowing grass. I will review as much of the race as possible but given that it is an hour long and PD has not graced us with a FF/RWD feature it will be difficult. If you have an altercation that you want reviewed. Try to remember what lap it was on so I can find it.

p.s. I took my car, kitted, out for a spin on GVE-R. I'd never been on the course, so it took me a few laps to learn my way around. On lap six was got 1:17.2, and was able to stay in the 1:17 groove. I did get a 1:16.8. That was luck. I tried it again and wound up with a 1:23.5.
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I was running 1:16s this morning in my car with the controller. I managed one 1:15 but it was not something I think I could repeat. I managed to rotate the car in the highspeed turn 1 which set me up for a 4 wheel drift into turn 2. If I try that during the race I'll probably end up in the pits for repairs. My times may improve or at least be more consistent when I switch to the wheel...and of course those were offline laps, and we all know online physics is going to be different, especially as the gas tank dwindles. Drivers may opt to top off the tank just to keep the rear end from sliding out.

But anyway, I think the lap times will vary between 1:15-1:20. Looking at some of the entries there could be a few 1:14s in there. If you're a little slow, clean racing and a tight line around the track should keep you in contention if you can let a faster car pull you around the track with the draft. And of course...stay off those walls! A little damage to the front suspension will have you cursing until the next pit stop.
 
these times are w/ comfort softs?
Chulyer1--I have to go by the MGT prices for my car because the 3000 GT Twin Turbo MR 95 I was going to use has a tranny. I found a Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. '00 and a Skyline R31 N1 untouched in my garage, 0 mods, 0 miles or switched by me so I will use that and have to use MGT value 29,298 and 25,292 respectively. I'm going to run a few GVE laps and then decide. Do I need to send pics of anything
 
Please send a pic of the car in the dealership which shows the value.

I'll be running that Evo (exact model) if that sways your decision one way or another. Mine was a little cheaper in the UCD so I snagged a photo of it and added a few mods. Don't forget to get your free oil change and engine/chassis rebuild. I hit a 1:15.5xx at GVE Reverse with the Evo in practice mode on Comfort Soft tires. I think they were comfort soft tires...it was pretty slick.
 
I bought them ages ago. I dont have a pic. in UCD. Can I just go by MGT prices? Its only a grand here of there anyway and I'm more in it for competition than winning

They are currently shared and both stock if you wanna look
 
Sure, you can use MGT prices. I just figured you'd want to get the most out of the car. Sounds like the Skyline might be your better option. You could drop a stage1 weight reduction on it and easily shave off a second.
 
sl3ight
Are these times with Practice mode or online physics?
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I ran cold turkey with both cars in My lounge (online with no Aids and Real grip, which is why I spun in the lancer on my second lap)

I went home during my lunch break so I only had time to do three laps with each car. On the skyline I went 1:17.8, 1:16.8 and 1:16.005
and with the lancer (whose quite loose, I went 1:23.4, 1:31.8, 1:15.405

I'm certain I can gain another .5 to 1 second with each car, but I really had very limited time on my lunch hour and I take 30 minutes of it travelling home and letting the dog out. :)
 
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The first race maybe...but after that winnings will muddy the waters. The last place car will get enough winnings to almost guarantee being the fastest car at the start of the next race. That's why I am stressing for people to pick something they want to drive and will feel comfortable driving for 60 minutes straight. The winner of the series will be the driver that makes the most out of his car on each race by staying on the track and conserving tires. The average off-track escapade will cost you about 10-15 seconds and bad tires alone can cost you 2-4 seconds per lap. That leaves plenty of room for slower cars to catch up.
 
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