LeMONS to LeMANS Wednesday Series

  • Thread starter chuyler1
  • 666 comments
  • 23,070 views
polizei
mine was at 380pp after engine rebuild. Maybe i shouldn't have changed the oil?
Click to expand...

I think the consensus is that cars need to be 375 or under after having an oil change + engine rebuild + chassis refresh.
 
sl3ight
I think the consensus is that cars need to be 375 or under after having an oil change + engine rebuild + chassis refresh.
Click to expand...

Correct, though it is my understanding that if you do an engine rebuild, it automatically does the oil change. It won't let you do an oil change immediately after a rebuild, so save 250 and just do the rebuild.

In all honesty, the chassis refresh would be up to you. It won't affect PP, so it can't be measured by anyone else. In theory it should help with cornering.
 
diabolic, what year is the 280Z? I think I tried a 240Z from 70s and it was hard to drive. Can you send me the 280Z? I want to drive a Nissan, but have not found any suitable cars--all Silvias are either too high in PP or have no turbo/super charger.
 
st1sj
diabolic, what year is the 280Z? I think I tried a 240Z from 70s and it was hard to drive. Can you send me the 280Z? I want to drive a Nissan, but have not found any suitable cars--all Silvias are either too high in PP or have no turbo/super charger.
Click to expand...

I didn't look to see if the two S13 Q's I tested (an '88 and a '91) could mount forced air systems. But they were both under 375 after the refresh.

The only Skyline I could find that would stay under 375 was from '73. It landed at 374. Again, didn't check what parts were available.
 
Chuyler, is preseason running required? No points and credits rewarded right? I may need to skip it.

Edit: if we run in the preseason race, can we still switch car for race 1? Just in case I end up not having time to test my car.
 
Last edited:
diabolicwyvern
I've got several...a 280Z has been the quickest so far. The Altezza/IS200 is not far behind but it starts out so damm heavy that the first couple races I think I'll just be dropping weight when I should be added power.

I think no one will come near the PP levels we hit last season. I've maxed several cars people are talking about and so far the most I've seen from any car is 472PP but its not financially possible to get there. I think by the end most of us will basically be driving 450 cars

PS: I'm not mentioning my top choice yet either. Anyone lapped GVE-R yet?? Booch and I ran several cars this afternoon and I believe consistent 1:23.xxx w/o draft will keep you near the leaders.
Click to expand...

Unless someone picks it, I'm going to run the 280z-L 2seater (S130). It isn't the quickest, but I think it will do well with just a few bolt-ons after the first race or two. I like its neutral feel on the corners of Laguna and at GVE-R it can make up most of the time it loses on the straight with a good line through turns 1 and 2. Drafting on the first race would be essential but it likely won't have any passing power.

I also like the '86 MR2 non-SC. It is by far the quickest car I have tested for lap times at Laguna and GVE-R. However, I think it will chew up rear tires and become unstable after 15 laps. It is my backup car if no one else drives it...but it sounds like there are already a few takers.

The Eagle Talon is the straight-line performer. It was my time to beat until I practiced in the MR2 some more. Its easy to drive and you can make up time after a bad exit. However, being a FF, it doesn't take that final turn at Laguna very well. I can be up a good second on the MR2 and cross the finish line 1/2 a second slow. It just doesn't like slow-speed sharp turns. Not much of an issue at GVE-R though which is why it took me so long to beat its time in the MR2.

Another decent performer is the Peugeot 206 S16 '99. It doesn't have has much speed as the Talon or MR2 but it is light and nimble and has the best turn-in of the FF cars I tested.

Some lap times at Laguna for reference (recorded in my private lobby)...
MR2 - 1:52.6
Talon - 1:52.7
280z - 1:53.9

Some lap times at GVE-R for reference (recorded in practice mode)
MR2 '86 - 1:21.656
Talon Esi '97 - 1:21.950
206 S16 '99 - 1:22.134
G20 '90 - 1:22.574
280z '78 - 1:22.891

So the 280 is a second slower on both tracks...but its the only FR car I have had success with.
 
Going on a road trip with my uncle, so I won't be able too make the pre-season race, unfortunately. Please post a recap for me, with times and such, it would be greatly appreciated. I will have Internet, just no ps3.
 
Vol Jbolaz
I didn't look to see if the two S13 Q's I tested (an '88 and a '91) could mount forced air systems. But they were both under 375 after the refresh.

The only Skyline I could find that would stay under 375 was from '73. It landed at 374. Again, didn't check what parts were available.
Click to expand...
You can't put turbos on the 280z. I have been checking for that. Given we may not max out the cars, I have no idea if it is going to be an issue. Might have to save credits between races for higher engine tuning.

st1sj
Chuyler, is preseason running required? No points and credits rewarded right? I may need to skip it.

Edit: if we run in the preseason race, can we still switch car for race 1? Just in case I end up not having time to test my car.
Click to expand...
The pre-season is required for anyone who did not participate last season. However, to be fair, everyone must have selected their vehicle before the pre-season event. Otherwise it would give you an unfair advantage to spend an additional week testing and tuning cars.
 
None of the S13 or S14 Silvias running an SR20DE ("Q" models) can be fitted with a turbo. I intended on running one of them until I found that out.

I'm going to start putting some laps down on Laguna Seca today once my internet is working (damn lightning).

I'm afraid of picking a car from the 70s because I have no idea how GT5 handles tire width.
 
chuyler1
You can't put turbos on the 280z. I have been checking for that. Given we may not max out the cars, I have no idea if it is going to be an issue. Might have to save credits between races for higher engine tuning.


The pre-season is required for anyone who did not participate last season. However, to be fair, everyone must have selected their vehicle before the pre-season event. Otherwise it would give you an unfair advantage to spend an additional week testing and tuning cars.
Click to expand...

I think we should exempt BTK from that rule about running the pre-season. He's been with us in the 450 for a while now and we know he's clean and fast.

too lazy to edit in a quote, sorry for double post
 
chuyler, sounds fair re preseason. I'll pick a car by Wednesday morning. Running at Laguna is 50/50 right now.

sleight, I am in the same boat as you. I wanted to run the Silvia, and was bummed to find out no forced induction.
 
Crap! I really can't make the pre-season race, so I'll either have too be exempt, or I won't be able too compete.

P.s. Thanks for backing me up sleight. :tup;
 
No Mic's eh? No worries, I will always be mic'd :).

I am a little worried about the track selection order. I don't like the idea of cote de azur being the last track. The ones before that encourage you to power up your car. Monza/trial/suzuka only to then need to change it to a very technical car.

This is just my opinion of course. But I would move cote higher up in the season.
 
Well, bowtie, i've seen you race before so as long as you pick something by wednesday you can participate.

I am mostly concerned about new drivers and how they handle damage on full. Its a different kind of driving because you can't just plow through people. Additionally, you have to manage tires so running on the ragged edge trying to pass at every corner is not only going to put the other drivers on edge, it will also kill your tires.
 
I would vote for exempting Bowtie from preseason too.

I agree with grenade. Cote d'Azur would fit real well as the 2nd race. Monza works well as the next-to-last race, before la Sarthe. So we would have a theme of going to faster tracks as the season ends.

I found a rare Miata that goes to 375PP after engine refresh. Good thing I brought that rare car.

Edit: just read the track list. Monaco probably works as the 3rd race. If Suzuka is moved up, I think we can use sport tires in the rain too. That would be interesting.
 
Last edited:
I've been without internet for the past 3 days. I might kill the fios guy when he finally shows up, but that wouldn't really be helpful.

Must. Test. Cars.
 
iamsupernasty
Do you need to know my car selection, or do I just show up with it?
Click to expand...
Yes. Everyone must PM me their vehicle selection by 12:00 on Wednesday. That gives me enough time to get the spreadsheet started and to verify all the cars are correct. For example, someone mentioned running a '99 MR2...but I know for a fact after the refresh it won't be under 375pp. So if you have any concerns about whether the car you want to run is acceptable send it to me early...or re-read the first post and double check all the requirements. I need to get the vehicle selection via PM...that will save me digging through the thread to find everyone's selections.

grenadeshark
I am a little worried about the track selection order. I don't like the idea of cote de azur being the last track. The ones before that encourage you to power up your car. Monza/trial/suzuka only to then need to change it to a very technical car.

This is just my opinion of course. But I would move cote higher up in the season.
Click to expand...
Trial Mountain and Suzuka are just as technical as they are quick. You'll need a balanced car at both tracks to be quick. Keep in mind, it could be raining at Suzuka and you'll have to choose between rain and racing tires. It will be anything but a straight line drag race. Cote d'Azur is at the end and serves as a last effort for drivers to gain points. Fast cars have a few spots where they can overtake. Slower cars can make up time by perfecting brake zones and staying off the walls. I think everyone should stand a chance to win the race.

People also requested I put le Sarthe on at the end as a 7th race. Please express your thoughts on this.
 
Alright, I think I'll add it to the end of the season. Monaco stays where it is though. Whether your car is fast or slow at that point, it will still be a challenge. le Sarthe is really about drafting...and i was bored to tears 17 out of the 20 laps last season. Should we stick with 2009 time/change or do 2005? Someone mentioned 2005 doesn't allow you to cut corners as easily...not that I saw anyone doing that last season.
 
I mentioned the 2005 version and no corner cutting. I think it is not a concern in a series, probably the cutting is more so for short online races.

Time change was good. Nighttime adds more stress. No rain though. Either way I'm happy that la Sarthe is back in. But it can be real boring running by yourself for the whole race, but that's like any other track, no?
 
iamsupernasty wants to run the premium 89 miata. Since he doesn't have time to break it in, I said it was ok if he started the season in the car with only 370pp. I think that is a fair compromise. If others want to run 0-mile cars, they can do so as long as it is under 370pp at the start of the season.
 
I'm sorry, is that the one you have been holding out on? I test drove a few newer miatas and wasn't really convinced it was what I wanted to drive for the season. I figured a bunch of others would be picking them anyway.
 
chuyler1
I'm sorry, is that the one you have been holding out on? I test drove a few newer miatas and wasn't really convinced it was what I wanted to drive for the season. I figured a bunch of others would be picking them anyway.
Click to expand...

No. I just figured it would be a secret. I am tempted to not send you my car until race day :) I think that's more fair. I got a hidden secret :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

The359
Mercedes-Benz SLR Trophy - Nov. 16
Replies
16
Views
996
The_Tullster
The_Tullster
Kermit_2142
TPC Pop Up Event - Track Car Mania - Saturday 30th March - 10pm GMT
Replies
21
Views
2K
Kermit_2142
Kermit_2142
P
(Suspended) Shark's Muscle Mayhem Series Saturday Races Will run a lobby August 11 about 4pm central time
Replies
7
Views
2K
Cold Warrior
Cold Warrior
Sweaty Palms
Regions Cup Series | Join Us This Friday | VGT Cars
Replies
1
Views
1K
Sweaty Palms
Sweaty Palms
GTR4MROD
ACC Wednesday nights! All welcome!!
Replies
0
Views
1K
GTR4MROD
GTR4MROD

Latest Posts

Back