Logitech G29 / G920 Driving Force Racing Wheel

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I'd be happy to pay £20-25 for a security chip thing enabling my DFGT to work on the PS4, but it seems I instead have to either spend £300+ and upgrade to a T300/G29 or spend £115 on a T100 which is way inferior to what I have and also double what I paid for my DFGT. Throw in 'DLC culture' and its not hard to see how Gaming has become a massive :censored:ing rip off.
 
finnracer
I'd be happy to pay £20-25 for a security chip thing enabling my DFGT to work on the PS4, but it seems I instead have to either spend £300+ and upgrade to a T300/G29 or spend £115 on a T100 which is way inferior to what I have and also double what I paid for my DFGT. Throw in 'DLC culture' and its not hard to see how Gaming has become a massive :censored:ing rip off.
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My sentiments exactly.

I'm on the verge of saying f:censored:k it and selling up.
 
G29 will be $300 cheaper than a T300 RS here in NZ. That is almost half price, so defiantly worth it! Just wish there was a sequential shifter with it...
 
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Shifter is as expected. Wonder if there will be big discounts like G27 or even more. I reckon Thrustmaster will be happy with current pricing.
 
Very sad to see that Logitech went down that route. 400$ for what is essentially a redesigned G27 (has the same internals as the G27) and now they also want us to pay an additional 60$ for the shifter?

No, thank you Logitech! I rather go for a Fanatec at this point and get better pedals and an overall better wheel.
 
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Ian_83
499nzd on the website.
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I used "almost" fairly loosely. Due to my current financial situation, saving $300NZ on, what I would consider a very good wheel, is a huge savings! Can put that money back into a shifter and pay off my GT7 preorder
 
Very disappointed in Logitech. $200-$250 for the G29 and I would have been suckered into buying a PS4 compatible version of the G27 I already own which has been flawless. $400? Yea OK...

Looks like I'll stick with PS3, G27 and GT6 for racing until they make a cheap PS4 version of the DFGT.
 
You know what? Screw those Ps4 wheels, I'll just buy a used G27 for PC and PS3.

(How much does a new g27 cost btw?)
 
Right now the T300 or TX can be bought for €290 here (MSRP €350). But the lovely TH8A (which is much much better than the G27 shifter) is an extra €150 and you pay €100-150 if you want T3PA or T3PA-Pro pedals (assuming you can actually find them for sale).

So the value proposition of MSRP €460 for wheel, 3 pedals and shifter is actually less than the MSRP €600-650 which you would need for Thrustmaster equivalent. However, the Thrustmaster set for €600 has a vastly better shifter, pedals and FFB experience.

To me it feels like Logitech has seen the Thrustmaster wheels flying off the shelves and decided that the current market for PS4/Xbox One peripherals justifies this kind of MSRP. I bet if sales are slow the MSRP will magically drop down by €100-150 though.... It would still be more expensive than a G27 while being almost identical except for the PS4 support.
 
So they took the buttons from a £90 wheel, everything else from a £220 wheel, took the shifter out of the box and somehow came up with £300? That's completely insane, especially given that the T300RS is significantly cheaper, uses brushless motors and belts (right?). Sure, you have to spend more on Thrustmaster gear if you want a clutch and shifter, but I don't think the kind of person looking to get the cheapest PS4-supported wheel would go that far. Casual gamers just want something cheap that they don't have to feel bad about only using a handful of times, even £250 is too much for a specialised controller specifically aimed at consoles; the DFGT did so well not because it was a great wheel (which it was), but because it was such great value. £300 for two pieces of old tech strapped together with a bit of programming to enable PS4 support (I don't buy the 'security chip' thing at all, it's just driver software and licensing) is insane.
 
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neema_t
So they took the buttons from a £90 wheel, everything else from a £220 wheel, took the shifter out of the box and somehow came up with £300? That's completely insane, especially given that the T300RS is significantly cheaper, uses brushless motors and belts (right?).
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If you look at the pictures here: http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g29-driving-force?wt.ac=g29 then it's clear that the G29 retains the same helical cog construction as the G27. And indeed the T300 is a belt-driven design which is very low drag and feels just as "agile" and easy to spin as the G27, while offering much smoother performance with no horrible rattle.

Right now in this country the G27 is available for around €260 (with an MSRP of €350! listed on Logitech's website), but plenty of webshops are showing €300+ so I get the feeling that Logitech is pushing G27 up towards €300 as standard price via that €350 MSRP.

Even assuming a similar €50-100 off the MSRP in most shops, the €400+€60 MSRP (€350 realistic?) price for G29 plus shifter is still a huge jump for what seems to be almost identical tech to the G27... just for PS4 support? Um, no....
 
neema_t
So they took the buttons from a £90 wheel, everything else from a £220 wheel, took the shifter out of the box and somehow came up with £300? That's completely insane, especially given that the T300RS is significantly cheaper, uses brushless motors and belts (right?). Sure, you have to spend more on Thrustmaster gear if you want a clutch and shifter, but I don't think the kind of person looking to get the cheapest PS4-supported wheel would go that far. Casual gamers just want something cheap that they don't have to feel bad about only using a handful of times, even £250 is too much for a specialised controller specifically aimed at consoles; the DFGT did so well not because it was a great wheel (which it was), but because it was such great value. £300 for two pieces of old tech strapped together with a bit of programming to enable PS4 support (I don't buy the 'security chip' thing at all, it's just driver software and licensing) is insane.
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Exactly right, my Fanatec CSW V2 works perfectly with PCars and I didn't need to send it away to have a security chip fitted. All seems a bit crazy from Logitech. They are behind the game and come out with a pretty hefty price. Most console gamers who are desperate to have a wheel would have probably already gone down a different route, so the high price is surprising. And still amazed no one else has brought out a wheel that works on all three platforms.
 
PzR Slim
Exactly right, my Fanatec CSW V2 works perfectly with PCars and I didn't need to send it away to have a security chip fitted. .
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Your CSWv2 is NOT PS4 compatible. They inserted the wheel drivers into the game directly. You have zero guarantee that any future PS4 titles will support your wheel, and it can't be used to control PS4 menus.
 
I think it's great news for both PS4 and Xbone sim racers. I'm cautious of Thrustmaster after reported reliability issues, but I have full trust in Logitech. I've had G27 and DFGT before and had zero issues whatsoever. Great wheels imho.
 
SimTourist
I think it's great news for both PS4 and Xbone sim racers. I'm cautious of Thrustmaster after reported reliability issues, but I have full trust in Logitech. I've had G27 and DFGT before and had zero issues whatsoever. Great wheels imho.
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Valid point on Thrustmaster, but nothing about the G29 is great news, it's a recycled wheel sold at more cost and without a shifter. Logitech messed up as simple as that.

Edit: I realize that Sony and MS may have had them pay a license fee (it will make it more understandable) but the fact there are seperate wheels for both consoles in also daft.
 
sems4arsenal
Valid point on Thrustmaster, but nothing about the G29 is great news, it's a recycled wheel sold at more cost and without a shifter. Logitech messed up as simple as that.

Edit: I realize that Sony and MS may have had them pay a license fee (it will make it more understandable) but the fact there are seperate wheels for both consoles in also daft.
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Seeing that both wheels go for the same price and are the same aside from face buttons makes me think that Sony started charging for license like MS. There probably isn't much they can do to support G27/DFGT really.
 
Once again, I'm wondering where all those conspiracy theorists now who once said Thrustmaster have exclusive license agreements on PS4 :lol:

Anyhow, like AC on PS4/XBox One, competition can only be a good thing for consumers in the long run. Let the price war begin and I might even consider getting a new wheel in the future but not one that is still based on old technology while selling it the same price as more advance force feedback offerings by Thrustmaster/Fanatec.

fatkrakr
I think Logitech just priced themselves right back out of the console market. :odd:
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I think so too.
 
sems4arsenal
Valid point on Thrustmaster, but nothing about the G29 is great news, it's a recycled wheel sold at more cost and without a shifter. Logitech messed up as simple as that.
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So my current shifter is compatible ?
 

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