Logitech G29 / G920 Driving Force Racing Wheel

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Maxx2013
No FFB though?... It oscillates without the fix but there's no FFB with the fix. Is there anything else I have to configure? I'm using the Assetto Corsa preset for LGS, and the G920 preset for Assetto Corsa.

Project CARS works perfectly though.
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Actually I started up Assetto again and there's FFB this time, however it's totally bugged. Can I fix this through the in-game configuration? Getting nowhere with it so far, wheel acts totally weird.

Edit: Setting FF_SKIP_STEPS to 2 seems to have helped. Ialyrn, is that what you also use?
 
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Putting compatibility and pricing issues aside, my problem with Logitech wheel is I have started to "outgrow" the tech. I initially started with GT1 and button bashing d-pad, then graduated to analog sticks. Then the quantum leap to my current G25 (which is still going strong, after replacing the optical encoder and it needs a good clean of the pedal potentiometers every 6 months or so). When I first started using a wheel I couldn't believe how similar it is to driving a real car. After this year's GT Academy however (GT-R NISMO LM at La Sarthe) I started to feel unsatisfied with what my G25 can do. I still love it to bits, but it started to feel like a toy and doesn't give me the precision I want.

So herein lies my problem. If I just buy another G29 I know I will get a solid product that will last me another console generation easy, but it will not improve my driving experience. If I get a T300 it will be a vast improvement, but reliability is always a worry. I don't mind paying a premium price if the product is good and reliable, but at $700 where I live the T300 is a huge gamble.

The T150 looked like a ray of hope between the two, but after hearing it has high internal resistance I'm put off by it.
 
Unless Fanatec have something good to offer (I don't know much about Fanatec), I think that you're stuck with the G29.

The T300 is the better wheel, but the reliability is terrible and I could never trust it.

The G29 is going to be slightly better than your G25, but only a tiny bit. The buttons on the wheel might annoy you though, as I know someone that has both a G920 and a G27 and he uses the G27 because the wheel is less cluttered and nicer. That said, you may actually like the additional buttons, because the G25 only has a couple compared to the G27's 6 buttons (+ paddles).

If you want a reliable PS4 wheel, the G29 is possibly your best bet. Proven tech from a company that has previously made reliable wheels.



*Note, I still won't buy Logitech for personal reasons.
 
The perception of reliability of the T300 is negative, but if you look at the T300 thread on GTP we've had only a couple of guys showing up with issues in the last half a year. Whereas we've seen loads of GTP-ers buying T300 wheels as they move over to PS4.

So just like we had around 4-5 years ago with the Fanatec Clubsport Wheel 1 problems (many many burnt out motors), the T300 reliability perception will stick around probably after Thrustmaster have got their T300 QA back to normal levels for the industry.

Just saying :)
 
Maxx2013
Setting FF_SKIP_STEPS to 2 seems to have helped. Ialyrn, is that what you also use
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I just plugged it in and setup with in game menus. I may have reveresed (inverted) the ffb, cant check atm as i am not at my pc. But as I said before, I prefer to use my g27 more on pc as the logitech driver software for that wheel is miles better than the new software.
 
Maxx2013
I don't think you can set up FF_SKIP_STEPS through the in-game menu. The FFB doesn't need to be reversed, only the pedals.
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An old forza drifter I know has just recently got a G920, and he happens to be a fairly decent youtuber also. He made a video a few days ago on how he setup the wheel, might be worth a watch. He is a drifter though, but it may help you to get a better feeling from the wheel still. I don't have the time at the moment to get everything setup and check to see what in game settings I have set atm for the G920.

 
Ian_83
Unless Fanatec have something good to offer (I don't know much about Fanatec), I think that you're stuck with the G29.

The T300 is the better wheel, but the reliability is terrible and I could never trust it.

The G29 is going to be slightly better than your G25, but only a tiny bit. The buttons on the wheel might annoy you though, as I know someone that has both a G920 and a G27 and he uses the G27 because the wheel is less cluttered and nicer. That said, you may actually like the additional buttons, because the G25 only has a couple compared to the G27's 6 buttons (+ paddles).

If you want a reliable PS4 wheel, the G29 is possibly your best bet. Proven tech from a company that has previously made reliable wheels.



*Note, I still won't buy Logitech for personal reasons.
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It's hard to get Fanatec where I live so it's never in my radar.

G29 buttons doesn't really annoy me. I'm sure I can adapt pretty quickly. The lack of shifter is annoying though and I could use my G25 shifter but I've heard it doesn't work on PS4?

I still prefer to get a T300 if the reliability issues turn out not to be so bad. If I'm buying a new wheel might as well make it an upgrade and like you said, the way Logi handled this whole mess transitioning into PS4 gen has made me reluctant to support them.

skazz
The perception of reliability of the T300 is negative, but if you look at the T300 thread on GTP we've had only a couple of guys showing up with issues in the last half a year. Whereas we've seen loads of GTP-ers buying T300 wheels as they move over to PS4.

So just like we had around 4-5 years ago with the Fanatec Clubsport Wheel 1 problems (many many burnt out motors), the T300 reliability perception will stick around probably after Thrustmaster have got their T300 QA back to normal levels for the industry.

Just saying :)
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That's always the thing with negative reviews. It's a minority but since they are very vocal it's hard to gauge how much is really a problem :indiff:

I wonder if there is a certain batch that is defective and more prone to failures and is there a way to know this (serial numbers, etc)? Like with PS3s you know to avoid the early fat 60GB models for example.
 
LeGeNd-1
G29 buttons doesn't really annoy me. I'm sure I can adapt pretty quickly. The lack of shifter is annoying though and I could use my G25 shifter but I've heard it doesn't work on PS4?
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I think the shifter works on PS4, but not PS3.
 
Awong124
I think the shifter works on PS4, but not PS3.
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Correct 👍

The G27 shifter works with the G29 on PS4, the only thing that won't work are the buttons on the shifter and it won't work on the PS3.

LeGeNd-1
That's always the thing with negative reviews. It's a minority but since they are very vocal it's hard to gauge how much is really a problem :indiff:
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Very true. Bad news always spreads further and faster.

The part that is the most upsetting is hearing about the replacement wheels also going faulty too. A single failure happens, but to actually have the replacement fail is awful. :(

I'm sure that there are many happy T300 owners out there, but I wouldn't gamble my money with Thrustmaster. The T300 isn't exactly cheap, it should last many years and so far we've heard of many failures within the first year.
 
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Ian_83
The G25/7 shifter works with the G29 on PS4, the only thing that won't work are the buttons on the shifter and it won't work on the PS3.
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I know the G27 shifter works with the G29, but are you sure the G25 one does as well? Does the G25's sequential mode work on the G29?
 
VBR
I know the G27 shifter works with the G29, but are you sure the G25 one does as well? Does the G25's sequential mode work on the G29?
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ooooo, that's a point. I totally forgot about the G25 having the sequential mode. :embarrassed:

Possibly not compatible then, I'd best edit that post.

Well spotted. 👍 :cheers:
 
I'm having a serious gut feeling that Logitech may pull something out for GT Sport. Maybe an updated G29 for all we know.

I think I'll hold off on buying a G29 in case something new comes along which could be better than the G29 or if the price drops significantly for the G29.
 
Ian_83
ooooo, that's a point. I totally forgot about the G25 having the sequential mode. :embarrassed:

Possibly not compatible then, I'd best edit that post.

Well spotted. 👍 :cheers:
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I'm amazed that Logi still haven't managed to put the sequential mode back in the new G29 shifter, especially since it's a standalone shifter now. I race using paddles, but I map my handbrake to the sequential down. Not having this ability is going to be a big downer for me.

TayeezSA
I'm having a serious gut feeling that Logitech may pull something out for GT Sport. Maybe an updated G29 for all we know.

I think I'll hold off on buying a G29 in case something new comes along which could be better than the G29 or if the price drops significantly for the G29.
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I'm hoping for something similar. A wheel like G29 with improved internals + shifter packaged together + priced just below the T300 would be the best case scenario. The release of GT Sport is going to be the deadline for me buying a new wheel. I'm not in a rush to buy anything till then.
 
LeGeNd-1
I'm amazed that Logi still haven't managed to put the sequential mode back in the new G29 shifter, especially since it's a standalone shifter now.
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At the very least they should've made a seperate sequential shifter, like Fanatec did with the CSR shifters. Would've given customers more choice, & made Dogitech more money.
 
It's a good price, it's a shame that it doesn't include the shifter too though as that's an extra £49.99. It's a rather odd decision by Logitech not to include the shifter really, it's not even a great shifter, just useful to have it especially considering that the pedal set still has a clutch.

So, £209.98 for the wheel/pedals/shifter..... not bad I guess. 👍

The T150 is £109.99 on Amazon. I don't know how good/bad it is, but I'm guessing that it's somewhere comparable to the old Logitech DFGT Pro? The T150 is an option for those that want a PS4 wheel and aren't worried about having a shifter, but if a shifter is a must, then the Logitech G29 is certainly the cheapest option out there.
 
They have had the shifter at £25 though, even outside a bundle, so probably will again. I bought the G29 and shifter from Currys at £180 + £25... not much difference to the £210 the combo is now. Happy enough with the price on the wheel, and £160 is even better. BUT... I would've been very disappointed with the shifter at £50! At £25 it's fine for the occasional use I'll make of it.

Realistically for me the TM alternative would've been the alcantera bundle with the better pedals, so not even close in price. Not much good has been said about the T150, AFAIK.
 
Hmm, I thought that the shifter was previously cheaper than it is currently. That's very crafty of PCworld/Curry's. :sly: So, on that basis, buy the wheel now and wait a few weeks for the shifter to be reduced back to it's original price (it will probably be 'on sale' at £25).

Anything from TM utilising the T300 base is currently too expensive, hence why I wondered what the T150 had to offer in terms of 'bang for buck'. Because that's what Logitech were known for, giving us something which was good value for money and robust.

Personally I wouldn't touch the TM wheels and I hate to say it, but Logitech are looking like they have a good option for us here in the UK. The G29's original RRP was a joke, so I'm pleased to see that the wheel is now getting discounted, it was never going to sell at the RRP. :crazy:
 
It could just be that they massively overstocked for xmas, but I doubt they ran low on shifters before wheels! Everywhere else still seems to be over £200 for the wheel.

Can't say I ignored the reliability issue, but even without that my choice was made. From all reports, the G29 is a better wheel and has better pedals than the T150 (and better pedals than the T300RS)... at £160 it's the best the bang for buck, I think.

Actually, I would probably have explored gimx hackery with my DFGT rather than buy a T150, but anyway I fancied an upgrade.
 
Ian_83
It's a good price, it's a shame that it doesn't include the shifter too though as that's an extra £49.99. It's a rather odd decision by Logitech not to include the shifter really, it's not even a great shifter, just useful to have it especially considering that the pedal set still has a clutch.

So, £209.98 for the wheel/pedals/shifter..... not bad I guess. 👍

The T150 is £109.99 on Amazon. I don't know how good/bad it is, but I'm guessing that it's somewhere comparable to the old Logitech DFGT Pro? The T150 is an option for those that want a PS4 wheel and aren't worried about having a shifter, but if a shifter is a must, then the Logitech G29 is certainly the cheapest option out there.
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2 weeks ago Argos were selling the T150 for £44. yes 44quid! cheaper than some places sell the DS4 for.
 
Just a word of caution for anyone in the UK thinking of buying the G29 or G920 wheel. Mine has developed a fault with the right paddle shifter, pressing it down registers a button press as it should, but letting go also registers one. With that in mind, Logitech have just told me to go to the point of sale to have it replaced, as there is no Logitech service center in the UK. So it is a case of buyer beware, because once your one year warranty cover is up at the point of purchase, Logitech may not lift a finger to help.
 
RoadRunner232
Apparently it's a known issue: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-G-Controllers/NEW-Logitech-G29-PROBLEM/td-p/1425361/page/3
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Unfortunately my issue is a separate issue, as all the buttons work. Just the right paddle shift is registering twice. It is most likely a fault with the actual switch, not the wiring in my case.

I just wanted to put out a general warning to people in the UK, as Logitech not having a service center in the UK could be problematic in the future.
 
So even Logitech has reliability issues now, despite not using any new tech in the G29. What a mess wheels this generation are...
 
LeGeNd-1
So even Logitech has reliability issues now, despite not using any new tech in the G29. What a mess wheels this generation are...
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There's no real new tech, but maybe some new components haven't been sufficiently tested.
 

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