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A video of how Turkish community dealt with the problem
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2011/aug/09/london-riots-london
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2011/aug/09/london-riots-london
London and England riots
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ok , its the mail, but the gist is no football this week, possibly.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2023936/England-football-cricket-teams-caught-riots.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2023936/England-football-cricket-teams-caught-riots.html
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I love how the international press are turning this story into an example of whatever their own argument is.
It seems a lot of people in the world are thinking these riots are a genuine protest and the result of either: 1. The economy, 2. Government cuts, 3. Lack of respect for the Police as a result of phone-hacking.
Its pretty clear from the fact that the so-called "protestors" are basically just thugs who are looting, destroying property and attacking the police that there is no motive - just idiots suddenly deciding to organise mass-rioting. I think the only fair point is the poor state of life for young people - with unemployment high (as well as the problem of older people holding jobs for longer) and at the same time university and college becoming more expensive combined with less and less youth groups and other "things to do". But these people are not directly protesting this, though it could be argued that they are doing this as a result of their poor prospects and state of life.
No doubt if the Police come down heavy handed or if the Army get involved, the same people who believe these are genuine protests will criticise them for it and compare it unfairly to Libya, Bahrain or Syria.
Personally I think we as a nation should come down heavy on this behaviour - what is the point of having "law and order" and not using it and enforcing it? There is no way that any of this is justified.
It seems a lot of people in the world are thinking these riots are a genuine protest and the result of either: 1. The economy, 2. Government cuts, 3. Lack of respect for the Police as a result of phone-hacking.
Its pretty clear from the fact that the so-called "protestors" are basically just thugs who are looting, destroying property and attacking the police that there is no motive - just idiots suddenly deciding to organise mass-rioting. I think the only fair point is the poor state of life for young people - with unemployment high (as well as the problem of older people holding jobs for longer) and at the same time university and college becoming more expensive combined with less and less youth groups and other "things to do". But these people are not directly protesting this, though it could be argued that they are doing this as a result of their poor prospects and state of life.
No doubt if the Police come down heavy handed or if the Army get involved, the same people who believe these are genuine protests will criticise them for it and compare it unfairly to Libya, Bahrain or Syria.
Personally I think we as a nation should come down heavy on this behaviour - what is the point of having "law and order" and not using it and enforcing it? There is no way that any of this is justified.
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Oops my bad. I don't think the rioters have a genuine issue with the police shooting Mark Duggan. Personally I think it's just another excuse which they believe justifies what they are doing when in reality the only reason for them to riot is for fun.
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I know what you mean.
Unfortunately because purely geographically were they live, danger may visit them at home with a take away.
I don't blame the police or any of our services, there number one priority is themselves.
Fire services won't attend unless the area is secure.
Ambulance services are in the same boat.
I'm talking about community's protecting there homes.
If the rioters want to break into mothercare let them, it's sad I know.
These are the same louts that will say there's no jobs for them after burning down the areas for jobs.
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I thought a body was found in Croyden last night with gunshot wounds.
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"no government is more than three meals from a revolution"
This is the issue - there are a lot of destitute kids out there with absolutely nothing to look forward to (in their eyes). I believe this is the beginning of an uprising and the balance does need to be re-addressed.
For years now the average UK citizen has been raped for taxes, given no value for money and all the while the capitalist machine grinds away serving only the most fortunate and wealthy. I have to work two jobs (and take on any spare work I can) just to get by and support my wife and soon to be born child. It's madness.
Too few resources, too many people. There was always going to be a point in time where civil unrest kicked off big time.
Fingers crossed that some good comes out of this very negative turn of events.
This is the issue - there are a lot of destitute kids out there with absolutely nothing to look forward to (in their eyes). I believe this is the beginning of an uprising and the balance does need to be re-addressed.
For years now the average UK citizen has been raped for taxes, given no value for money and all the while the capitalist machine grinds away serving only the most fortunate and wealthy. I have to work two jobs (and take on any spare work I can) just to get by and support my wife and soon to be born child. It's madness.
Too few resources, too many people. There was always going to be a point in time where civil unrest kicked off big time.
Fingers crossed that some good comes out of this very negative turn of events.
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Similar to what I think. I personally believe there will always be hangers-on or people who just riot because they want to. I don't think that most of the people rioting or looting or whatever care much for what happened, I see them just causing trouble at the inconvenience of everyone else.
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They know what they are doing and they know they will get away with what they are doing. As proved.
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Hat's off to the groups in London and Birmingham who are going out today to help clear up. What a great way for the community to show that these juvenile thieves aren't what their neighbourhood is about. That is true community and solidarity against these actions.
I post this because a friend of mine, Mike, has helped organise a clean up group in Lewisham via Facebook. How ironic, chaos via Blackberry - organisation via Facebook! As a hardened iPhone user I was always sure there was something funny going on at Blackberry.
BTW, where are the parents here?
I post this because a friend of mine, Mike, has helped organise a clean up group in Lewisham via Facebook. How ironic, chaos via Blackberry - organisation via Facebook! As a hardened iPhone user I was always sure there was something funny going on at Blackberry.
BTW, where are the parents here?
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Not all of them will get away with it, but everyone is prepared to take their chances anyway.
The beauty of modern-day technology is that so much has been caught on camera. Even if it takes months, enough people will be identified for a lot of people to be brought to justice.
They know there are consequences to what they're doing, they're just too stupid to think it'll happen to them.
A lot of them are probably involved.
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Hat's off to the groups in London and Birmingham who are going out today to help clear up. What a great way for the community to show that these juvenile thieves aren't what their neighbourhood is about. That is true community and solidarity against these actions.
I post this because a friend of mine, Mike, has helped organise a clean up group in Lewisham via Facebook. How ironic, chaos via Blackberry - organisation via Facebook! As a hardened iPhone user I always sure there was something funny going on at Blackberry.
BTW, where are the parents here?
I've arranged to go to London with a friend to help the clean up if things kick off again tonight. Cameron has announced 16,000 police officers on the street tonight so hopefully things won't be as bad.
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Hat's off to the groups in London and Birmingham who are going out today to help clear up. What a great way for the community to show that these juvenile thieves aren't what their neighbourhood is about. That is true community and solidarity against these actions.
I post this because a friend of mine, Mike, has helped organise a clean up group in Lewisham via Facebook. How ironic, chaos via Blackberry - organisation via Facebook! As a hardened iPhone user I was always sure there was something funny going on at Blackberry.
Here, here!
Totally the best attitude. 👍
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Well these looters are taking stuff they can't afford cos they're unemployed and the fact they are smashing up stores such as jd sports make it obvious who these rioters are. There is no cause for these riots now it's just chavs taking advantage so they can break the law knowing the police can't do much about it at this present time
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I definitely think we should get this one caught. Seems to think she's above the law: http://twitter.com/itsBARBZbabes
Oh, the language! The spelling! The grammar! She definitely needs to be arrested and jailed for raping the English language.
And also, opportunist much?
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Never have I seen such un-understandable language in my life.
So, 16,000 officers to be planted around the country to stop the aimless fools this time...
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As much as I disagree with the rioters and the behaviour this is so so true. The government has screwed me over so many times and Im not even out of my teenage years yet.
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All safe and sound here. There were a few groups outside my bedroom window for a bit but they had finished their rioting by that point. They were still really loud and it was quite scary.
My local pub is trashed, my friends who own the place were hiding upstairs while it was ransacked.
Another of my friends had a big group outside her house and they were dumping their stolen goods in her front garden while they waited to be picked up in cars. She was absoloutely petrified and it went on until about 5am. I don't think she's slept.
I dosed off about 2:30 but it was hard as the helicopters were making a racket.
I haven't been out to see the damage yet. I assume the worst hit parts are still closed off anyway.
My local pub is trashed, my friends who own the place were hiding upstairs while it was ransacked.
Another of my friends had a big group outside her house and they were dumping their stolen goods in her front garden while they waited to be picked up in cars. She was absoloutely petrified and it went on until about 5am. I don't think she's slept.
I dosed off about 2:30 but it was hard as the helicopters were making a racket.
I haven't been out to see the damage yet. I assume the worst hit parts are still closed off anyway.
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