London and England riots
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England is literally full of people like that.
Rain is no longer the UK's #1 moaning topic, it's chav scum like her.
Rain is no longer the UK's #1 moaning topic, it's chav scum like her.
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- axletramp
How so? You may feel like that but surely it takes a certain type of person to use it as an excuse to smash up their community, beat the s**t out of innocent people and steal stuff.
EDIT: Please stop posting pics of the Chav princess. I'll have to nip over to the 'Daily Babe' thread as an antidote!
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- GTP_Stotty
Poeple like that should be forceably steralised.
How exactly has the government 'screwed you over'?
Edit; err, apologies for the double post!!
How exactly has the government 'screwed you over'?
Edit; err, apologies for the double post!!
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Life is what you make of it. Some people have it tough for sure but history is littered with examples of people dragging themselves from the gutter and becoming incredibly successful.
All it takes is hard work and most people aren't prepared to work hard.
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Considering they've only been there since last May and, in his case, devolved powers to a regional parliament, they've done a belting job to do it "so many times"...
Blame doesn't lie with government (or at least this one), or with police, or with the shops for having so many nice things, or the rich. Blame lies with the nasty, spiteful, animalistic imbeciles who are smashing up everything in their "community". They have literally no reason to do what they're doing other than a bunch of trite, badly-worded soundbites, innit, and because scum like to see other people suffering (even when the other people are their friends and helpers).
Perhaps when this is over we can think about pointing fingers at decades of erosion of manners, intelligence, courtesy, respect (not RESPEK!, which means "fear") and justice. Decades, not months - you don't breed a generation of degenerate rats in 65 weeks of governance.
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Perhaps he should ask his parents about being screwed over by any of the governments.
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Though it would help being brought up with the right frame of mind, if your parents are lazy and rely on benefits or even loot and thieve themselves, you are hardly going to grow up thinking its better to put hard work in for potentially less reward.
The root of these riots is a far bigger and broader range of problems in this country - as I said, its not possible to just pin this is as a protest for a specific current problem.
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Hear, hear!!
Too easy to blame others for your crappy life than take personal responsibility.
Apply yourself at school, get an education & proper qualifications and you stand a good chance of getting a decent job. Then you might be able to afford all those things you want. Of course it's much easier to do sod all, live off the social, blame the system and say you had to loot because you had nothing... you had nothing because you did nothing with your life FFS.
Society doesn't owe you a living... you have to put some effort in yourself.
Makes my blood boil.
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- axletramp
I've always thought it would be a good idea for the unemployed to be given 6 months to find work and if not you are required by law to work in the community. It wouldn't be a punishment, but it would get people out and active. Perhaps it might even instill a sense of worth and - dare I say it - inspire them to achieve. The current benefits system does nothing to encourage self worth or motivation. The benefit system should be for those who need it most, not those who can't be bothered.
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Has GTP all of a sudden become the Daily Mail?
Some people in England truly are striving for a better life. I work on average 80 hours a week to support my family. I have a decent job, and my second job is pretty good too. Should I need to work 80 hours a week to provide?
Riots and looting are not acceptable. The thieving of our government and banking system is not acceptable. It seems the older generations are very out of touch with what young people have to face these days. What do they care? Petit bourgeois mentality much?
Some people in England truly are striving for a better life. I work on average 80 hours a week to support my family. I have a decent job, and my second job is pretty good too. Should I need to work 80 hours a week to provide?
Riots and looting are not acceptable. The thieving of our government and banking system is not acceptable. It seems the older generations are very out of touch with what young people have to face these days. What do they care? Petit bourgeois mentality much?
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Agreed, though it's a mess the country has made for itself. It's often easy to blame the government for not doing more, but there's now just such a huge subsection of society that believes it's up to the government to hand them a silver platter that even if they were given what they want they still wouldn't make use of it.
I sometimes wonder whether society is past saving. I wish I lived nearer London so I could help do my bit and clean up some of this mess but unfortunately there's nothing to say that it won't happen again and again.
As others have pointed out, there's a very real difference between riots for basic human rights in the middle east and riots because you're a scumbag with nothing better to do and no desire to work for a better future.
Actually, that's the irony of it. Both are theoretically rioting for a better future, but the ones in the UK are unwilling to actually work for it.
The fact that you're already working for your family separates you from these animals.
There's a massive, massive difference between struggling and working to make things better, and struggling but thinking somebody else should make it easier for you.
Put simply: You have our respect. The rioters don't.
And for the record, I don't consider myself an "older generation" just yet. I'm 26 and I work hard, just like any other self-respecting member of our country.
And not to stir things, but I'm presuming you have a computer and you probably have a car too. That hardly puts you on the poverty line, and your 80 hour weeks are presumably a testament to that.
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I hate all this talk of the youth living in "poverty".
Our benefits system is more than generous, the people looting didn't look poor to me. In fact many of them had premium label clothes, trainers, bikes and mobile phones.
I class poverty as living on rationing, having basic clothes which you have to repair yourself as there is simply no budget for anything else apart from food to keep you alive. I know my Mum & Dad and there parents really struggled after the 2nd World War.
What we're seeing are the bottom of the barrel citizens, the kind of people that loot the bag of an injured person (as seen in that horrible video). These people will never change. Organising "community workshops" and having Police Liaison gatherings is worthless. These people need a year (minimum) in a hard graft military camp to learn some discipline.
Our benefits system is more than generous, the people looting didn't look poor to me. In fact many of them had premium label clothes, trainers, bikes and mobile phones.
I class poverty as living on rationing, having basic clothes which you have to repair yourself as there is simply no budget for anything else apart from food to keep you alive. I know my Mum & Dad and there parents really struggled after the 2nd World War.
What we're seeing are the bottom of the barrel citizens, the kind of people that loot the bag of an injured person (as seen in that horrible video). These people will never change. Organising "community workshops" and having Police Liaison gatherings is worthless. These people need a year (minimum) in a hard graft military camp to learn some discipline.
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Looks like it.
Again, now is not the time to start assigning blame - and anyone assigning blame anywhere apart from these cowardly rat children is pointing in the wrong direction. You cannot blame a government which has been in power for 65 weeks for the decades that have created these nasty little vermin.
It seems that the younger generation is very out of touch with what the older people had to face when they were young. Miner's strike, Winter of Discontent, the 70s Oil Crisis - hell, even rationing and World War 2 if you want to go back far enough.
If only the poor back then had been able to organise their protests on BlackBerry Messenger. Of course they didn't have the same gadgets as the rich did back then, whereas today they apparently do.
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My father had two jobs through the 70's and 80's to provide for our family. My wife has had two for ours. Only now are we in a situation where we don't have to do this. No, it is not necessarily right to have to work long hours, but it's nothing new and certainly nothing to blame on an older generation. It happen then, it's happening now, it will happen in the future.
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All safe and sound here. There were a few groups outside my bedroom window for a bit but they had finished their rioting by that point. They were still really loud and it was quite scary.
My local pub is trashed, my friends who own the place were hiding upstairs while it was ransacked.
Another of my friends had a big group outside her house and they were dumping their stolen goods in her front garden while they waited to be picked up in cars. She was absoloutely petrified and it went on until about 5am. I don't think she's slept.
I dosed off about 2:30 but it was hard as the helicopters were making a racket.
I haven't been out to see the damage yet. I assume the worst hit parts are still closed off anyway.
Which pub got hit? My sister works near O'neils and said they're all being let off work early just in case it kicks off again tonight.
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West Midlands police have released CCTV images to capture the thieves http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/majoroperations/operationview/
We should have seen it coming...
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History is also littered with examples of disenfranchised masses rioting and bringing governments down. These riots shouldn't just be seen as a relative handful of yobs causing havoc for the sake of it, it could quite easily be the start of something much bigger if not handled correctly.
The recent economic problems that much of the world is experiencing at the moment is creating an increasing unrest especially amongst the youth. If the British people and British Government can't see parallels with what's happened in Spain, Egypt, Greece, Morocco and now Syria then things will surely escalate in the coming months or years.
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