London and England riots

[dhandeh]

I work at an Army base, we have these.

You dont mess with the mastiff.

 

[Neal]

I work at an Army base, we have these.

You dont mess with the mastiff.

Shotgun!

EDIT: For the avoidance of doubt!

 

[Clark]

I work at an Army base, we have these.

You dont mess with the mastiff.

Exactly why we need the Army to come, they don't need to use force, but merely just turn up and the rioters will be qualing in their boots.

 

[spunwicked]

I'm not a Wednesdayite for glory-hunting reasons, you know.

No way! (Sorry I know off topic) I got dragged into supporting the Owls 25 years ago by my uncle, a very loyal supporter. The first three matches I went to see with him, we lost!

Got to love Sheffield Wednesday 👍

 

[boiltheocean]

Shotgun!

EDIT: For the avoidance of doubt!

Fine, I call the gun on top.

 

[dhandeh]

Exactly why we need the Army to come, they don't need to use force, but merely just turn up and the rioters will be qualing in their boots.

Precisely, they would run a mile.

 

[Biffy]

Bringing the army in will not just fix things straight away. Show these thugs more authority and they're just going to respond with more violence.

 

[Clark]

There was a typo in my last message, I meant 'quaking' in their boots. I don't know what 'qualin' in their boots would mean.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I think you should be relatively safe. Chav populations tend to increase in either cities or large towns which think they're cities - anything big enough to have cleared its local area of other population centres. I used to live in Ashford in Kent - 7 miles from the nearest other large town, lots of chavs. So long as Chesterfield has Sheffield, it should be safe from proper chav infestation.

Mind you, I've not yet heard a peep about looting in Sheffield. Probably nothing of value left to nick.

The closest city I live to is Peterborough and good to hear that there is no rioting going on there. I hope it stays that way and people don't share the same logic as the video in the quote below.

A couple of lovely locals...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

I wonder if anyone moves away from these areas knowing what their locals are capable off out of disgust (Unlikely I know). It is stupid that they are thinking they will be better off from doing what they are doing. Lots of jobs will have been lost for the time being due to business buildings being wrecked and also some being burnt down. Insurance prices will go up. Jobs will be harder to get due to people losing their jobs in the areas affected will also be on the job market. Government will be wasting money dealing with these things and other companies will be affected due to having to call off things. That means less money spent on these "youths".

The cost of some peoples message that they can be above the law for a few days would have cost their local area millions upon millions of pounds. Expect many listings on eBay soon for brand new items that are from looting. If people are stupid enough to post a facebook picture off them with goods they have stolen then I'm sure there will be many to list them on eBay doing little to cover their tracks.

 

[axletramp]

There was a typo in my last message, I meant 'quaking' in their boots. I don't know what 'qualin' in their boots would mean.

It's an old norse word meaning 'one who ****es himself in public'.

 

[ScouserInExile]

It's an old norse word meaning 'one who ****es himself in public'.

I was going to go for an old english way of spelling "quail" - meaning to panic, visibly fear or cower. But I'm not sure I'm right on that...

 

[F1GTR]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/09/london-riot-independent-label_n_922009.html#s325530

The hipsters in Shoreditch and surrounding areas should form a retaliatory force.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

Fixed. Though this isn't the thread for it, workers are an integral part of a capitalist society and successful workers are rewarded higher than unsuccessful ones. A class system is unnecessary, but if it were, they wouldn't be an "under"class.

It is true that the UK is outsourcing a lot of jobs. There's a couple of reasons for this. Certainly financial - the national minimum wage means that postholders are now no longer rewarded according to ability and output, but have a guaranteed lowest income threshold which is both unfair on employers and ripe for abuse by employers; putting your factory in a country with fewer punitive taxes on businesses means you can employ a string of Durkadurkastanis for next to nothing, but still pay a reasonable salary in terms of their economy. But beyond that is the workforce - so many people refuse to "lower" themselves to basic jobs because there is no incentive. It's low-skill work in unappealing environments for not much money - when they'd be better off on the sick, on the dole or just operating outside the normal streams of finance (selling knock-off gear, drugs or even doing cash-in-hand work) and they don't have to lift a finger. If we didn't have a system set up to actively reward laziness we'd have British kids in British jobs, earning their way and contributing to the country.


That aside, many of the kids involved in this stupidity aren't old enough to have entered into the workplace yet anyway.

Thanks for that, I think that already put down the anti-capitalistic view a bit.

I was taking it even further in my mind: take the communistic system (like it was sold, not implemented): everyone gets the same, you are super talented, get thing done for the good of the many and get the same reward => exploitation of the talented I call that. None of the extremes is good.


I do believe that a lot of people are putting a lot of responsibility at the level of the individual rioter. This is very much in the line with Gert Hofstede 's theory on cultural differences and the high level of individualism that exists in Anglo-Saxon culture. I do not believe in "chance equality" and some more then average talented people that try to do a good job, just fail in our societies. That is frustrating and leads to these events that are really not helping anybody.
The governments are responsible for keeping this in order and "bread and games" were made for this, "jobs and social security" is a modern version, but finally your policy leads to social stability or social unrest!

Concerning the Bahrain government, it is very difficult from a large distance to judge that correctly, although a local view might be coloured too.

Finally concerning the "dumb people interviewed", you find those easily in any demonstration. It is just sad to see they find looting a fun thing and hope it will go on.

 

[daan]

If the Army aren't called the Police need to roll these out in force as it seemed to work yesterday.

I don't think they're that tough. That one is trapped by a traffic cone and some tape.

 

[Spagetti69]

I don't think they're that tough. That one is trapped by a traffic cone and some tape.

Some sort of GT5 tape methinks.

 

[axletramp]

The hipsters in Shoreditch and surrounding areas should form a retaliatory force.

I think they've already started... very quietly... on the right.

"If I stand very still, no-one will notice me."

 

[F1GTR]

No, that's a toff.

 

[Beliall]

Petrol Bombs being thrown in Brighton right now, its started early.

 

[boiltheocean]

It takes 5 badmanz to carry a cuddly snake.

 

[Beliall]

LMAO @ floats pic

 

[Spagetti69]

Tottenham have signed a new black Italian striker.

GRABATELLI.

 

[axletramp]

It takes 5 badmanz to carry a cuddly snake.

Hahahahaha, feckin' awesome!

 

[Clark]

Petrol Bombs being thrown in Brighton right now, its started early.

Please don't spread the false rumours.

From Sussex Police twitter.

Rumours of disorder in Brighton, Hastings, Eastbourne, St. Leonards and Crawley all false. Please enjoy the Sussex sunshine while it lasts!

 

[homeforsummer]

'It's the Government's fault, I dunno, innit'
'Yeah, Conservatives or somethin'

This.

Sums up every little scrote who has caused any damage over the last few days. It's moronic people trying to peg this as caused by some underlying political problem. It would have happened whichever party had been in power and whatever state the economy was in.

There are simply too many people who refuse to be accountable with their actions, and the quote from those two girls is enough proof as any of us need that most of them are too thick to even come up with any sort of justification.

Destroying an innocent entrepreneur's business because they represent "the rich" is inexcusable. "Someone has worked hard and is successful, but they don't deserve that so I'm going to torch their business".

It's not a political issue, it's a sociological one.

 

[axletramp]

Could we bring back branding? Just an idea...

 

[Neal]

Could we bring back branding? Just an idea...

It's the branding that's making them nick all the stuff...Adidas, Nike, Apple, Sony...

 

[Clark]

He may seem bumbling and confused on the outside sometimes, and I know alot of people are criticial of him (and he is a Tory 👎). But I can't think of no better person to be Mayor of London than BoJo.

 

[Submerged]

Ah, what shall we brand those idiots with: "This person was part of riot of 2011"?

 

[Touring Mars]

It takes 5 badmanz to carry a cuddly snake.

This kind of mindless thievery really hisses me off.

Some friends of mine have been out on Roman Road (Mile End/Bethnal Green) helping with the clean up operation there... I hope they and all GTP London members stay safe and are not badly affected by this mindless idiocy 👍

 

[boiltheocean]

Ah, what shall we brand those idiots with: "This person was part of riot of 2011"?

Something like this should do the trick.