Manual or Auto Tranny? which is majority
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On GT3 I used DS2 on auto to get 100% and all golds, then went to improve my gold times and switched to manual. Ditto GT3C and GT4P. On GT4 I have used manual only so far.
Manual is definitely faster than auto, but I may use Auto while learning a new track and some rally races are IMO easier with Auto (but faster with manual).
Steven
Manual is definitely faster than auto, but I may use Auto while learning a new track and some rally races are IMO easier with Auto (but faster with manual).
Steven
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I was faster and more consistent in auto in GT3 though (just got the 4th installment, so i can't comment on the auto driving). The reason behind that is that I could choose when to shift up, and when shifting down I could stay in a gear or let the gears change efficiently and quickly. So basically I use auto as if it was a manual for upshifting, but auto for downshifting...most of the time.
I was faster and more consistent in auto in GT3 though (just got the 4th installment, so i can't comment on the auto driving). The reason behind that is that I could choose when to shift up, and when shifting down I could stay in a gear or let the gears change efficiently and quickly. So basically I use auto as if it was a manual for upshifting, but auto for downshifting...most of the time.
Manual all the time...
BTW, has anyone noticed how the "auto" slush isn't in GT4 like it was in GT Concept on the SL55 AMG, S-Type R Jag and Audi RS6 etc...
Also, a bit un-chuffed that the M3 CSL, whose gearbox changes gear in 80ms in fastest sport mode in real life, up-shifts like a long throw manual gearbox in GT4...
Uh!?
GT4 is a bit poor in some accuracy areas... the CSL shoud shift as soon as the button is pressed! Rest is good though
Dave
BTW, has anyone noticed how the "auto" slush isn't in GT4 like it was in GT Concept on the SL55 AMG, S-Type R Jag and Audi RS6 etc...
Also, a bit un-chuffed that the M3 CSL, whose gearbox changes gear in 80ms in fastest sport mode in real life, up-shifts like a long throw manual gearbox in GT4...
Uh!?
GT4 is a bit poor in some accuracy areas... the CSL shoud shift as soon as the button is pressed! Rest is good though
Dave
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AT only for me, and it's nice to see I'm not the only one! However, I can see some race situations and licences where MT would give me better control. I don't use a wheel, and my levels of co-ordination just aren't good enough to do everything on the controller. I do still drive by ear, and use the fact that it's automatically downshifted into, say, 3rd when braking for a particular bend as an indicator that I'm at my comfortable speed for that section.
I do drive manual IRL and enjoy shifting on a proper RWD old-fashioned car (like my 1970's Datsuns, always noted for having a good shift) where the lever has a mechanical feel, but I've owned auto's in the past and a good auto 'box on the back of a nice torquey, sweet-revving V6 is just a different sort of driving pleasure (any other Nissan Cedric fans out there?).
BTW, what do other DS2 users use for the brake? I reconfigure mine so that R2 is brake, which falls comfortably to hand when X is throttle. I rarely use the analog stick, except for situations where more delicate acceleration is required.
I do drive manual IRL and enjoy shifting on a proper RWD old-fashioned car (like my 1970's Datsuns, always noted for having a good shift) where the lever has a mechanical feel, but I've owned auto's in the past and a good auto 'box on the back of a nice torquey, sweet-revving V6 is just a different sort of driving pleasure (any other Nissan Cedric fans out there?).
BTW, what do other DS2 users use for the brake? I reconfigure mine so that R2 is brake, which falls comfortably to hand when X is throttle. I rarely use the analog stick, except for situations where more delicate acceleration is required.
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Since i got my DFP i've been using manual, i find it's much more fun and you do get more control.
I created a thread like this a while ago, My own vote went to automatic with overding gears. I would however certainly recomend to anyone that uses a wheel to go manual.
I created a thread like this a while ago, My own vote went to automatic with overding gears. I would however certainly recomend to anyone that uses a wheel to go manual.
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I didn't know you could hold the gears in auto mode. How do you do that?
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Isnt it "R2"
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Changing gear in a bend at speed will seriously upset the balance of your car. If your tyres are already at their maximum slip angle then any sudden change in car balance or speed (such as a gear change) may well exceed the slip angle. The tyre will lose grip and you will lose control.
As has already been said, if this is not happening, then you are not going as fast as the car can.
Personally I drive in GT as I would drive at the track, in the following order.
1. Start braking before the corner
2. Downshift as braking towards the corner, ensuring the gear changes are finished before the corner
3. Start to ease off the brakes as I enter the corner (trail braking)
4. Constant throttle throughout the corner; maybe a small lift or touch of left foot braking to keep the racing line
5. Accelerate out of the corner; gently feeding the power on as the front wheels straighten
6. Full throttle with the wheels straight and start shifting up as you head to the next corner
For me this is by far and away the fastest way round a corner, and by getting all the work down before the corner its quite easy.
Anyone who find this difficult should start wil a fairly slow car and just practice, building up speed and the power of the car you use.
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manual all the way! you can do so much more wit manual than auto.
I'm using auto in the license tests, but I will go for the stick for the rest of the game. There is just a problem: since there is no anologic rev counter in the exterior view, I will have a hard time getting used to it and I even may not drive manual at all because of this. This still stands as the biggest gripe I have with the game.
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in Gt3 i used the 3rd person veiw too. got Gt4 and was like WTF i cant drive like this and switched to the top-of-the-car view. its kind of hard to make the transition but it will slowly happen. hey i even use the bumper cam because its fun to see the weight transfer when you brake
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well, for GT1 i was only starting to get into cars and couldn't understand why people would want to use the "archaic" Manual way of shifting when you could get the car to do it for you, but about half-way through GT2 a couple buddies of mine used only manual and i started to understand it a little more, by GT3 i was huge into cars and understood the techniques, and even though i drove a manual IRL i couldn't get used to the idea of using the L&R buttons to shift.
i decided that for GT4 i would force myself to use Manual, and even though i've only been using it for about a month, i can't go back, in any game. sure, there are some good valid reasons to use Automatic, but not for me, Auto is actually harder to use now
i decided that for GT4 i would force myself to use Manual, and even though i've only been using it for about a month, i can't go back, in any game. sure, there are some good valid reasons to use Automatic, but not for me, Auto is actually harder to use now
I use the automatic - simply because I can't get it to go faster on manual. It always works with other racing games - but with the customizable gearbox and the ability to keep the automatic for changing gear (which I use a lot) - I simply have no need for it - sometimes it could be nice to be able to shift down 2-3 gears at full throttle but mostly when cornering you want to lose speed and use the brakes - and then it doesn't matter anyway. With the Toyota GT1 / Côte de azur license test in GT3 I used manual because of the poor traction.
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if u hold r2 or l2 you can rev the gears out in auto
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MANUAL :-) of course. I can't stand automatic shifting. 
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With my Silvia in GT2, I'm at a point where I don't even need sound to make the correct shift, but I've been using that car for years ('88 Silvia Ks) ... You just get so used to it that you just know when to shift without sight or sound ... Makes it pretty easy to win on 2 player when you don't need to hear just your engineMurdochFrom what I can see, the main argument people have against using manual transmission is that they can't concentrate on their driving line due to constantly having tokeep tabs on the tacho / gear selection etc. So here's one for all those who use manual regularly... do you actually look at the tacho? I know I don't (barring maybe down the straights to watch the needles swinging round). My point being, manual eventually becomes far more intuitive than auto ever could. I rely more on the sound than anything else, it really does become second nature - and once you get to know the track and car you know exactly how fast you are approaching a corner, what gear you're in, what gear you need to be in and, consequently, how much speed you can carry through the corner. And this is coming from a guy who only started using manual transmission in GT4rologue (and who isn't very quick at all) 👎
Proper speed into a corner comes with practice regardless of transmission ... Using a proper downshifting technique, you should NEVER be in the wrong gear using manual in a corner ...
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I never knew you could hold the gears with an auto tranny, interesting. Anyways, I started using manual when I got roasted by a guy using manual last October (the only head to head races I've ever lost were all to him) and haven't gone back since. It wasn't a hard transition for me, I found driving manual just as easy as driving automatic after a few races. Shifting becomes second nature after awhile and you don't even have to look at the tach.
Well, from the day it came out til now, I used AT.
Yesterday when I was looking through this thread, I didn't realize it was THAT popular to use Manual.
When I go over to friends houses, they used Manual most of the time, but I always thought it was way too much effort.
Well, I tried it. Now, I'm hooked. My laps have had full seconds shaved off of best times, and I do feel like its much faster than automatic. Once you grasp it (which doesn't take much time if you play PS2 often), its a must! I've seen the light!
Yesterday when I was looking through this thread, I didn't realize it was THAT popular to use Manual.
When I go over to friends houses, they used Manual most of the time, but I always thought it was way too much effort.
Well, I tried it. Now, I'm hooked. My laps have had full seconds shaved off of best times, and I do feel like its much faster than automatic. Once you grasp it (which doesn't take much time if you play PS2 often), its a must! I've seen the light!
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I'm 42 and only use man trans.
Back in GT 1 and 2, I use auto because it is easier for me to concentrate and the fact that i just need to accelerate, brake and turns.
Starting in GT3 and 4, I began using manual and I found it very difficult at first. However I am kind of getting used to it, but sometimes i still forget to shift up or down.
Starting in GT3 and 4, I began using manual and I found it very difficult at first. However I am kind of getting used to it, but sometimes i still forget to shift up or down.
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