Mclaren W1 - P1 Successor (P18)

1258kg/1399kg/MR/TTH/V8 4.0L

And mind you, this has 200kg more downforce than the Senna. Top speed is said to be over 350km/h, so it's possible it will go even faster.
 
After watching the unveil video, I have my intial thoughts:

GOOD POINTS:
  • Overall Design is nice - Rear end looks sick with the agressive diffuser and tail.
  • All new V8 block which is great, wish they did a V12 like the GMA but that is a different animal all together.
  • Aerocell is cool and probably all composite carbon fibre, which must be expensive and cool!
  • The new Active longtail is very cool and similar system to the P1 but my more cantilever looking. Nice design.
  • Nice new rim designs, hopefully more of selection is available on launch or close to it.
  • The rear light cut flick of bodywork is amazing and very slick, a nice design touch!
  • I like the aero bubbles thingys on top of the doors, very reminscent of the Mclaren F1 doors!
And......with that onto the slight negs with this car:

BAD POINTS:
  • The Front end looks so bland, almost mimicking a Rimac Nevera not the R version, wish it had and needs more pomp and flairy style to be a flagship car for Mclaren, looks too similar to a 765 LT imo.
  • V8 sounds so quiet, no aggression and heat pounding, inducing a heartattack type of engine to me, or maybe its the exhaust note? muted on the launch video who knows? Gintani anyone? :sly:
  • Mclaren still cant get out of their horrible bubble of interior aesthatics, the screen and basic looking steering wheel (its not bad this time) with ugly switchgear, it a brand new car that may retail at 1-2million or more so, why can't we have some redesign of a crazier steering wheel and button layout design please, plus saying no to tablet slab sided infotainments systems and cheap rehashing of the mclaren parts bin?
  • Clearly the car has gone through some horrible streneous Eco regulations and sound deadening climate crap to adhere to various countries rules and noise and eco pollution remits, hiopefully it dienst hamper the cars ability to look and drive good!
  • Lastly, I hope the reliability is good and the Hybrid E-motor doesnt fail on new users, when buying this car. They say it F1 tech in the video, for all I know it could be taken off a Bosch hover motor or made by RImac, who knows!
  • Also the slogan at the end of video, they states it being "the Real Supercar", is it a hypercar or supercar, there is a big difference so make up your mind Mclaren?!!!
This is just my two cents intially and look forward to other folks feedback also. Drive on!

W1 ENGINE.jpgW1 FRONT.jpgW1 rear.jpgW1 TAIL.jpg
 
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To be honest? This thing might grow on me, but calling it an F1/P1 successor does it a great disservice no matter how much McLaren intends it to be. At best, I see it as akin to a 765LT with more power and more radical (for McLaren) styling. If treated like that, it's not bad. If treated like McLaren wants you to treat it, it's a huge disappointment.
 
As @AudiMan2011 said, the front end really reminds me of the Lykan Hypersport as well.

Besides that though, personally I don't think it looks bad. As cool as the Senna was, I was not a big fan of its looks so I think this one looks much better than the Senna. Also, maybe it's just me or perhaps because the W1 is still new but when the P1 was announced, that car has such a presence, there was an immediate "wow" factor for me. I'm not getting that same vibe at all from this one.
 
I couldn't stand watching McLaren's official reveal video once the actual reveal began. It's like they want someone to foam at the mouth with all of that erratic nonsense going on. I'm not interested in your film school project, just show me the damn car. :lol:

Now that I've seen it...I want one. Anyone care to lend me the price of this thing? :dopey:
 
They didn't put any effort into making it pretty which is a shame. Everything about the general shape and proportions is the same as every other V8 Mclaren since the 12C, with a more ridiculous bodykit slapped on. I won't call it more attractive than the Senna, it's merely less dog-faced ugly than the Senna. The P1 was at least sensual and unique, a lot like the F1 was in its day. I was honestly expecting something more like a Solus than this Mansory-looking abomination. Even the exhaust tips look simultaneously uninspiring and not purposeful.
 
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05XR8
Fabric seats. 👍

Guess they didn’t learn anything from Gordon Murray in packaging.
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They're not interested in carrying on the essence of the F1 anymore. The Speedtail had the central driving position but ultimately Mclaren is beholden to profit these days like Ferrari and Porsche.
 
Terronium-12
I couldn't stand watching McLaren's official reveal video once the actual reveal began. It's like they want someone to foam at the mouth with all of that erratic nonsense going on. I'm not interested in your film school project, just show me the damn car. :lol:

Now that I've seen it...I want one. Anyone care to lend me the price of this thing? :dopey:
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$2.1 million starting before you get MSO involved.

All units sold out, though.
 
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Liquid
Aero cars have no beauty.
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Highly disagree. While downforce cars may not have elegant simplicity, they can be the definition of beautiful with all their curves and flows dictated by fluid dynamics. They couldn't possibly be more natural, that is if the engineers actually care about beauty. A fully engineered road car or race car should be both effective and beautiful. The current crop of Aston Martin hypercars are evidence off this. It's also evident throughout F1's and WEC's history, where some eras of cars were genuinely pretty, and evolved to monstrosities over time. In the near future, the Valkerie LMH vs Ferrari LMH car will be a perfect example of aero beauty vs aero brute force.

There's no reason Mclaren couldn't have made the W1 pretty, they just didn't care. It's not their brand.
 
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I think it looks and sounds nice. Not sure what people would expect it to consist of in order to be a worthy P1 successor but I like it.
 
I'm not certain if it will go down as one of the greats or not, but I'm very excited by what we've seen so far. Ferrari & (hopefully, as they've been mum about any such projects lately) Porsche better bring their A-game.
 
Giygas
I'm not certain if it will go down as one of the greats or not, but I'm very excited by what we've seen so far. Ferrari & (hopefully, as they've been mum about any such projects lately) Porsche better bring their A-game.
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My only concern about the Porsche is that it ends up with the face like the 963 or the Vision GT. I'm not a fan of those headlights at all. Now if they go the 919 Street and Mission X route, now we're talking. That also plays more into the 963's overall shape, minus the hideous face.
 

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