Motorcycles in GT6?

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The point is this: I don't want to wait for both GT6 and TT2 to come out at the same time as one game. I'd rather they release GT6 first.

Obviously that thought doesn't make the bike lovers happy though. :dopey:


The use of the word tradition was a joke, but seriously, why do bike fans want to race bikes in a car racing game? Go find a bike game for crying out loud. There must be something out there. :lol:
 
another_jakhole
Remember what you said, mjm23race. You see the kind of garbage posts they made above mine.

I am getting better at ignoring garbage posts. Letting it affect me only validates their rambling noise.

Whenever coworkers or friends of mine chime into a conversation and add their 2 cents worth with a smart a** comment, I always say "you be quiet now the adults are talking". Kind of the same thing here, but now I try to just say it in my head instead of out loud here.
 
Whenever coworkers or friends of mine chime into a conversation and add their 2 cents worth with a smart a** comment, I always say "you be quiet now the adults are talking".

Sorry dad.

I would say it's a bit childish wishing for bikes with such passion tbh.
 
Well then, I'll reiterate my desire for tractor trailers, fork lifts, and pallet jacks.

You can only qualify to use a forklift once you have mastered the mighty pallet jack!!
 
arora
Sorry dad.

I would say it's a bit childish wishing for bikes with such passion tbh.

You think all of my ideas are "silly" or "childish" I prefer to call it passionate.

You must be passionate as well and not just "jaded"otherwise you would have just said your piece and moved on. But I would call you a regular in here. Lol
 
Name calling usually goes both ways. I usually try to go the high road but you guys don't really want to be civil. In fact, I contend you don't even care about bikes in gt, you just wanted a troll fest, so, there ya go.
 
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Name calling usually goes both ways. I usually try to go the high road but you guys don't really want to be civil. In fact, I contend you don't even care about bikes in gt, you just wanted a troll fest, so, there ya go.

Lets quote each other and post winky faces :D

I mean.. ;)
 
arora
Name calling usually goes both ways. I usually try to go the high road but you guys don't really want to be civil. In fact, I contend you don't even care about bikes in gt, you just wanted a troll fest, so, there ya go.

Not even going to bother with that one.
 
But sometimes you guys drag me down to your level and beat me with experience.

I am getting better at ignoring garbage posts. Letting it affect me only validates their rambling noise.

Whenever coworkers or friends of mine chime into a conversation and add their 2 cents worth with a smart a** comment, I always say "you be quiet now the adults are talking". Kind of the same thing here, but now I try to just say it in my head instead of out loud here.

You need to drop the patronising and rude comments just because people disagree with you.
 
Leave it up to the players. There's no reason why the two can't share a track during a race. It's even happened in real life on many occasions.

lol have you ever played GTA?

One of my favorite things to do is to hit bikes with my car and make the rider fly in the air. :dopey:

And that is why they shouldn't let bikes and cars be on the same track. Bikes need to stay out of GT anyway. It's the real DRIVING simulator.
 
lol have you ever played GTA?

One of my favorite things to do is to hit bikes with my car and make the rider fly in the air. :dopey:

And that is why they shouldn't let bikes and cars be on the same track. Bikes need to stay out of GT anyway. It's the real DRIVING simulator.

That's your reason? Perhaps that's how you'll treat people with bikes, but I know I can find some friends who wouldn't do those things, you know like in real life.

Also, you think Gran Turismo still can't be the real "Driving" simulator if they have bikes on it? Perhaps you're just too attached to their motto, or you think that Gran Turismo can't emphasize their realistic "driving" physics when having bikes that uses the SAME physics.
 
Perhaps that's how you'll treat people with bikes, but I know I can find some friends who wouldn't do those things, you know like in real life.

Wow...no need to be such a jerk. Don't get me wrong, I love bikes, but Gran Turismo has always been about 4-wheeled vehicles. They made Tourist Trophy for the bike crowd. Mixing them in in GT would be great, yes, but I just don't see PD doing it.
 
Wow...no need to be such a jerk. Don't get me wrong, I love bikes, but Gran Turismo has always been about 4-wheeled vehicles. They made Tourist Trophy for the bike crowd. Mixing them in in GT would be great, yes, but I just don't see PD doing it.

Sorry Wangans, I admit I was too much. I take it back, but seriously, the last reason on why bikes shouldn't be in GT6 is because we're gonna see everyone launching bike riders 50 feet in the air with their cars.

Gran Turismo is ever evolving. Before it was simple road cars and race cars. Now we see Rally, F1s, and even Kart. Sure, they're all 4 wheelers, but what makes GT special is not because it's a 4 wheeler game, but because of their renown physics. From what we know so far, their "driving" physics can be used with motorcycles as well, so I'm thinking why not?

If they do make a separate bike game, it would be nothing more than GT6 with the same tracks and physics. I'd figure it would be a waste of marketing effort and cash for something that they can just add onto GT6. Tourist Trophy was really more of an "experiment" more so than them "commiting" to make a Bike and Cars game as separate ambitions, my opinion anyways.
 
They don't have to be that lazy though, for example many of the tracks in GT5 aren't amazingly suited to bikes so if they made a standalone bike game again after GT6 they could and should put more time into it and make it actually a bike game and not GT5 with the cars deleted and bikes added.
 
Lets quote each other and post winky faces :D

I mean.. ;)

As opposed to showing off in front of your friends and spamming nonsense into an argument you can't "win" with logic?
Rooby plz.

Who would want to race cars against cars? :rolleyes:

Bert you trader :P

The real driving simulator? Oh Dion, Kaz didn't really mean it.

Who are these people?


If people can't stop attacking each other over this issue, instead of discussing the issue itself, the thread will probably have to stop - but I guess that's all right by you guys, although I shouldn't go so far as to say it was your actual aim. It seems that, with GT / TT (and, to a certain extent, this thread), you can have your fun, but the moment someone appears to threaten that (bikes taking time away from cars), the toys come out of the pram. Whatever happened to sharing?

As of now, it seems the most likely way bikes could make it into GT6 would be as an expansion after its release, i.e. TT2 released as DLC / expandalone.
Is that still too much?

EDIT: @SimonK, the "problem" with that approach (although it sounds good to me) is that it'd take even more time away from GT.
 
SimonK
You need to drop the patronising and rude comments just because people disagree with you.

I have no attitude about people disagreeing with me. Posting things like I want guns, planes, forklifts, pallet jacks, and so on is not a disagreement about anything. Nor is calling someone's ideas childish and silly. It is just a post to get a reaction. If anyone makes a valid point or suggestion pro or con I actually love reading them and thinking about it.

SimonK
many of the tracks in GT5 aren't amazingly suited to bikes
What makes a track suited to bikes? Only thing that makes a track unsuitable in real life is concrete barriers, and that is just for safety. I don't think it is much of a concern in the virtual racing world.
 
Sorry Wangans, I admit I was too much. I take it back, but seriously, the last reason on why bikes shouldn't be in GT6 is because we're gonna see everyone launching bike riders 50 feet in the air with their cars.

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I maybe race in a public lounge perhaps once a month, and only when my friends are not online. I have about 60 guys added to my lounges and we race privately pretty much most of the time. If kids think it is fun sending riders 50 feet in the air, then those that want to ride bikes with cars can simply do it amonge friends and privately. This has always been the most effective solution to avoiding the current idiots we find online from time to time.

At the moment we have kids in Veyrons and Xwings driving backwards and ruining players races. knocking riders off bikes (assuming pd would allow it) might be a novelty at first but eventually will be no more or less common as the current douchebags we have already online.

Exluding bikes becuase people will ram them is almost as bad as say not including cars in GT5 for the same reason.

Its a game that is the beuaty :)
 
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What makes a track suited to bikes? Only thing that makes a track unsuitable in real life is concrete barriers, and that is just for safety. I don't think it is much of a concern in the virtual racing world.

It's an interesting question. My first impression is that a track suited to bikes has what I would call relentless corners; like at Assen or Le Mans Bugatti.
Then there are road-like courses, such as the Nürburgring, or "realistic" course generator tracks (e.g. Toscana), which are excellent for both cars and bikes.

So it depends on your aims; a good driving road is a good riding road, but racing is different. I think a lot of the good "dicey" circuits for bikes are generally too narrow for big cars e.g. GT racing; but that doesn't mean that tracks tailored for bikes might won't be really good for small, medium-to-low-powered cars, either.

In short, adding "bike specific" tracks would probably help the variety. To date, there is only one "bike-specific" circuit in the GT series, and that's Valencia (it was the only new track added to TT).
 
The use of the word tradition was a joke, but seriously, why do bike fans want to race bikes in a car racing game? Go find a bike game for crying out loud. There must be something out there. :lol:

Thing is there isn't anything out there as convincing as TT was in the physics department (including its flaws which illustrates how bad the other titles are I've played).
What's more, they only focus on race bikes and a particular series of racing (just like F1 2012 focusses solely on F1 obviously and can't be considered an alternative for GT5) which is another major difference compared with TT.

Imagine it the other way around, what if PD mainly released bike games from the start and only once a car-related spin-off which was mostly spot on from the start and is sorely missed.
Wouldn't you want some cars included in TT6?
 
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