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Happens in every form of motorsport. Not just a NASCAR thing.

Yep. Although NASCAR is one of the few motorsports where it is more acceptable since that's partially how it came to be and the cars can take the hits and keep going more than others.
 
Well I don't think drivers should be taking each other out. It is always good to have rivalries in racing(especially now). At least it gives the media something else to talk about that doesn't involve Jimmie Johnson or Jr.
 
If it's at Martinsville, or Bristol, that's one thing, a bump and run, a product of short track racing, just like pileups at the restrictor plate tracks are a product of that kind of racing. But purposely doing it because it's the last race, on a fairly high speed track is just poor form. I've watched Nascar since as far back as I can remember, I know that is kind of ingrained in the racing they do in general, stuff like that it uncalled for though.

Oh BTW Jim John won the championship this year!! What a shocking turn of events. I was sleeping :lol:

Please someone bring balance back to the force in 2010...
 
Apparently VW is only interested in the Grand Am series.

UPDATE: VW says they are not interested in NASCAR. But are looking at bringing their VW, Audi and Lamborghini brands to Grand Am and that is why they were in Homestead talking to NASCAR, which owns and runs Grand Am.
 
Grand Am? Eh, I'd rather see them in ALMS. I like Grand Am but I've always been a big ALMS fan, but Scott Pruet is pretty cool. Either way about it though, it's always good to see new manufactures showing up.
 
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But purposely doing it because it's the last race, on a fairly high speed track is just poor form.

I don't think it being the last race of the season had anything to do with it. Just drivers having disagreements and going a bit overboard. I'm just as much a Montoya fan as anyone on this board, but I do agree that he went to far there. But, there is nothing that I can do about it, so you won't hear me fuss about it.
 
I don't think it being the last race of the season had anything to do with it. Just drivers having disagreements and going a bit overboard. I'm just as much a Montoya fan as anyone on this board, but I do agree that he went to far there. But, there is nothing that I can do about it, so you won't hear me fuss about it.

Maybe it was a bit far, but over the radio Tony admitted they deserved it!

Congrats to Denny Hamlin for winning the race and congrats to Jimmie Johnson for making NASCAR history!
 
Good race I thought, although the Montoya/Stewart thing seemed to have come from nowhere from my perspective.
 
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Good race I thought, although the Montoya/Stewart thing seemed to have come from nowhere from my perspective.
Ya, but when you think about it, those are two of Nascars most famous bad-boys, and I thought they would make for an amazing rivalry.
 
Well its kind of funny how the last race was actually the most exciting one I've seen in a while. Teams and cars that were not in contention were suddenly battling it out alot and there was alot of side by side racing. As for the Stewart-Montoya Incident, That was all Tony. He blocks montoya while he had a run going and only got a small, unintentional punt yet felt the need to return the favor with a big slap to the side of Montoya's car, cutting down his tire and then Montoya pays him back later by spinning him out (in ironically the exact same spot as Hamlin did Keseloski in the Nationwide race). I seriously hope this is not the only way Nascar is ever gonna get its ratings back.
 
Well its kind of funny how the last race was actually the most exciting one I've seen in a while. Teams and cars that were not in contention were suddenly battling it out alot and there was alot of side by side racing. As for the Stewart-Montoya Incident, That was all Tony. He blocks montoya while he had a run going and only got a small, unintentional punt yet felt the need to return the favor with a big slap to the side of Montoya's car, cutting down his tire and then Montoya pays him back later by spinning him out (in ironically the exact same spot as Hamlin did Keseloski in the Nationwide race). I seriously hope this is not the only way Nascar is ever gonna get its ratings back.

Uhh you didnt see it from my vantage point. Stewart and montoya had been 2 wide for about 2-4 laps and tony had finally inched montoya out the turn before, stewart went to the bottom to block but montoya ran high. Tony then started to move up but was in front of montoya before the end of the turn at which point montoya instead of lifting like everyone else did (you can hear it, trust me on that) just slammed stewart. Tony went to nudge him but the front wheels hit (you can see it on video) and both cars jump down. Yes it was on purpose but not as it happened. I hope it didn't end there because I love stewart in nascar and montoya in open wheel so having them clash is making me wonder which side to sway towards, so I chose none.
Nascar penalized montoya because they gave them a warning after stewarts move and the penalty is handed after a warning. I had the fantracker thing and was listening to the officials channel right after it as pit stops were about to go underway.
 
Hmm, If Montoya tapping Tony was a result of him not letting Smoke complete an overtaking manouvere, then Smoke never had the move done IMO... they were fighting each other for a spot in the standings, the first bump would have cost neither driver a thing, they could have battled to the end of the race, but Tony tagging Juan and cutting his tyre effectively put JPM out of the race and cost him two spots in the championship - NASCAR deemed this a racing incident.

Tony undeniably meant to tag Juan, and if he intentionally causes a wreck, then sorry... but I don't see it as a racing incident... therefore Tony got what he deserved, and to be fair, using the same logic I can't argue with NASCAR's penalising of Montoya either.
 
Tony undeniably meant to tag Juan, and if he intentionally causes a wreck, then sorry... but I don't see it as a racing incident... therefore Tony got what he deserved, and to be fair, using the same logic I can't argue with NASCAR's penalising of Montoya either.

Then why didn't they penalise Smoke?
 
Officials might have given warnins but Montoyawas penalised two laps for what he did, why wasn't Smoke given the same punishment?

Don't get me wrong, I'm 🤬 that Smoke cost Montoya 30 laps and two (maybe 3) spots in championship, but Montoya (well, both drivers) were warned after first incident, Montoya ignored that and retaliated anyway - I think he got the penalty more for dis-obeying NASCAR than he did for actually causing the second incident.

I just hope they leave it at Homestead, I like both drivers and it would be a shame if more races were ruined over what started out as a bit of rubbin'..
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm 🤬 that Smoke cost Montoya 30 laps and two (maybe 3) spots in championship, but Montoya (well, both drivers) were warned after first incident, Montoya ignored that and retaliated anyway - I think he got the penalty more for dis-obeying NASCAR than he did for actually causing the second incident.

I just hope they leave it at Homestead, I like both drivers and it would be a shame if more races were ruined over what started out as a bit of rubbin'..

Absolutely, i agree that they were both warned but, there is an old quote that they use in NASCAR sometimes and appears on some of the NASCAR games as well

Rubbin' is Racin'
 
Absolutely, i agree that they were both warned but, there is an old quote that they use in NASCAR sometimes and appears on some of the NASCAR games as well

Rubbin' is Racin'

To be honest i was angry at the way tony pussied out. Back in the day montoya would have to go to a dentist to remove the concrete from his teeth after hitting the wall. I thought he was going to do it but then he started apologizing.
 
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Kellogg's moves from the #5 to #99: Kellogg's will sponsor Carl Edwards next season following a 16-season stint with Hendrick Motorsports [on the #5 and #44 cars]. Kellogg's will be the primary sponsor for two races on the #99 Ford and an associate sponsor for the remainder of the season.

This will be a very strange sight in 2010.
 
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