NEW GAME: GT4 Online Edition Out in Q2 2006

[Cosmic]

As long as we get a free online-adaptor with the game, I'll get it.

 

[SavageEvil]

Maybe, if they are pulling the plug it's an indication that GT5 is closer then we think...

Think about it, they are not going to re-release an old game just so it has online play, if GT5 is just around the corner.

There's no way GT5 could be just around the corner. PD just finished up Tourist Trophy, if GT5 is even 6 months away, I'd eat my GT4 disc. There is no way PD could have GT5 done in such a short space of time, there was too much to add to GT4, let alone rebuilding all the vehicle models, adding damage, online component, (hopefully) better AI. I'm betting on a near christmas 2007 release at it's earliest for GT5.

Adding to the fact with what Sony has said about PNP, GT5 may be the final physical release of a GT game, and everything else may be just downloadable.

I'm will to say that GT4Online would be a great way to test heavy traffic on servers, we know for a fact GT4 online will have loads of people on there. I'm itching to go online and duke it out with other racers, lag free. So I think it would be in Sony's best interest to test the waters with PS2 and not come out with GT5 and a premature online experience for is much heralded system. Just my take on that.

 

[Specialized]

Maybe, if they are pulling the plug it's an indication that GT5 is closer then we think...

Think about it, they are not going to re-release an old game just so it has online play, if GT5 is just around the corner.

That or they still havnt got the playstation online service up and running properly yet?

 

[Swift]

That or they still havnt got the playstation online service up and running properly yet?

That's what I'm guessing. There is no reason NOT to release it, it would be a great test of the service to see if it is up to par with what they need for the PS3. Granted, not too many people have network adapters. But I'm sure it's enough to match the early numbers of PS3's that will be released.

 

[ALPHA]

There's no way GT5 could be just around the corner. PD just finished up Tourist Trophy, if GT5 is even 6 months away, I'd eat my GT4 disc. There is no way PD could have GT5 done in such a short space of time, there was too much to add to GT4, let alone rebuilding all the vehicle models, adding damage, online component, (hopefully) better AI. I'm betting on a near christmas 2007 release at it's earliest for GT5.

Only to add to this post,

e3 2005 gave us a look at Vision GT — GT with large grids and an improved human element. Towards the end of the year TGS showed us higher poly car models with interior detail (a hint towards cockpits, TT already has a handlebar view complete with limited texturing), drivers, improved environments, greater human element interaction (pitstops), and large grids. But wait a minute, haven’t we already seen a very tamed down version of all of this? Yeap and it’s called GT4.

GT4’s intro movie eventually gets underway with a bustling pitlane, we’ve got convertibles with detailed drivers and the RE Amemiya RX-7 even features a 3D driver, not the usual flat silhouette. We have pit stops with humans, a game architecture pushing the “Emotion Engine” to its limits, resulting in senseless AI.

What we can already play and experience, is simply what the PS2 can handle. Kazunori obviously has clear ideas about what he desires to accomplish with the series and has only expanded upon these features as far as technology limits him. For the 3½ years of GT4’s development, they didn’t collect data just for GT4 but the future. I believe the same applies with the games development.

To quote KY from the Press Certification letter from the GT4 Press Box Set, “I created GT4 as the last GT piece for the current platform generation. However, the end result turns out to suggest the outlines for Gran Turismo for the next generation.”. At the end of the Driving The Game book with accompanies the press box, Kazunori also sheds enlightenment. “Currently we face the lack of performance in every segment, therefore I hope that PS3 will improve performance in all areas 100 times more than what is available now.”

GT3 didn’t have an extended development time, and though Nana—San was given 10 months to develop Tourist Trophy, PD can’t be enjoying generous amounts of sake all day, surely? To me, GT4 was given plenty of polish in development beyond what the PS2 can do, foreshortening the time until a next generation GT release.

Along with the news that GT might perhaps feature as a PS3 launch title, to me it isn’t that far fetched, unless SCE delay it to build sales upon an already strong PS3 customer base after a short while. GT4 Online, whether fact or fiction may be there simply to milk the PS2’s lifespan, if network adapters are scarce to come by, will we be driven to acquire a slim line? The online component was originally dropped apparently because of infrastructure limitations, what’s suddenly been improved in the last while, profits? And following TT, a Q2 2006 release seems a little too soon…

With a month until some genuine answers, who knows?

 

[Wolfe]

I think ALPHA ^ pretty much summed up all of the reasons/proof why GT4 was an "unfinished," "beta" game. 👍

I just hope that GT4's physics engine was being held back by the hardware, and that GT5 will be worthy of the subtitle "the Real Driving Simulator"...

I'm not saying the PS2 was incapable of a realistic driving sim. I'm just hoping that PD's physics engine took up too much memory to run at full capacity on the PS2.

Maybe, if they are pulling the plug it's an indication that GT5 is closer then we think...

Think about it, they are not going to re-release an old game just so it has online play, if GT5 is just around the corner.

Yes they would. Sony likes money, and the GTPlanet community has already demonstrated that they would get it if they released a re-hashed online-capable GT4.

If GT4O was cancelled, there's something else in its way.

 

[ALPHA]

I think ALPHA pretty much summed up all of the reasons/proof why GT4 was an "unfinished," "beta" game. 👍

I just hope that GT4's physics engine was being held back by the hardware, and that GT5 will be worthy of the subtitle "the Real Driving Simulator"...

I'm not saying the PS2 was incapable of a realistic driving sim. I'm just hoping that PD's physics engine took up too much memory to run at full capacity on the PS2.

I wouldn’t go as far as to call GT4 a “beta” . Gran Turismo is a journey to perfection — GT4 was merely the fourth (major) stepping stone towards this goal.

The physics and graphics engines in regards to GT4 were of higher priority than the AI, hence its level of suckination. However even then it is clear that these elements aren’t as good as they could’ve been. Many track textures still hold dates of 2003, considering the wishy–washy release schedule, compared to today, GT4 could’ve been comparatively so, so much better.

Even with the PS2 being pushed beyond breaking point (Sony warranties ), the LAN mode works when set up properly, XLink Kai produces working results, so an online mode is probably more feasible than already thought.

And now we’re back at square one. Ho hum.

 

[JohnBM01]

Part of my problem with online play is that you can't assume everyone has broadband. I've always disliked this generalization. I'm on a fast connection here at my community college, but my home computer has dial-up. If I were to play an online game, it would lag a great bit at home. The best experience any gamer can have is a broadband-enabled connection to the Internet. You can't assume things all the time. Consider everyone.

For those who have everything needed for the best possible experience online, enjoy GT4 Online. For those who don't, either get everything you need to play this this successfully online so you can enjoy GT4 Online.

 

[Car_Guy]

They may be able to make it work with dial-up, but there are a lot of people who do have broadband, why hold us back, when others dont.

There are often "slow" broadband setups that got for close to dial up anymore, putting too much effort into dial-up is simply not worth it, most of the gamers out there do have broadband, and the numbers are switching from dial-up to broadband, why put too much effort into a shirking market


Although like replay files for GT4, that is all the data that would really be needed to send across the connection, simply what car, and where they are on the track.

 

[Sambert]

Along with the news that GT might perhaps feature as a PS3 launch title, to me it isn’t that far fetched, unless SCE delay it to build sales upon an already strong PS3 customer base after a short while. GT4 Online, whether fact or fiction may be there simply to milk the PS2’s lifespan, if network adapters are scarce to come by, will we be driven to acquire a slim line? The online component was originally dropped apparently because of infrastructure limitations, what’s suddenly been improved in the last while, profits? And following TT, a Q2 2006 release seems a little too soon…

Yes, though my concern is that if GT4 online has been cancelled for PS2, that it may be shifted to PS3 (á la Vision GT) as a ready-made launch title. Although it’s not a likely scenario, I’m certainly hoping to be able avoid first batch PS3 hardware.

 

[Christhedude]

so, i must say that i am a lil pissed on PD. now it says that gt40 wont come out, caused by something nobody knows i gues... and then it says that gt40 will come out for ps3...wtf is going on there...what will hapen with gt vision then? wont come at all??

and gt5 will be the last final version of the gt series, and everything else will be downlade able.??

i realy think about going back to xbox 360 and play PGR3 with those nice cars, and wait for test drive unlimited.

bye
chris

 

[SavageEvil]

so, i must say that i am a lil pissed on PD. now it says that gt40 wont come out, caused by something nobody knows i gues... and then it says that gt40 will come out for ps3...wtf is going on there...what will hapen with gt vision then? wont come at all??

and gt5 will be the last final version of the gt series, and everything else will be downlade able.??

i realy think about going back to xbox 360 and play PGR3 with those nice cars, and wait for test drive unlimited.

bye
chris

Anyone here want to decipher that for me? I'm stuck.

Everyone knows GT series is a cash cow, hence the reason the created TT, and for a first attempt, that's one hell of a showing. PS2 online infrastructure is on a game by game basis, notice that Socom 3 is hella better than Socom2, the servers can host quite a bit more than the originals. GT4 Online would most undoubtedly be Broadband only, that game shuffles too much information, there are almost no games these days that can run on a dial up connection anyway. Broadband subscriptions are on the up and up, and no signs of slowing down anytime soon. Next Gen system will be broadband only, bandwidth is more than a commodity these days.

Like I said, there is practically no other way to test out PNP than with GT4, this game is moving loads of data constantly, and with PS3 launch looming in 2007, it's high time Sony did something that makes a little bit of sense. As for GT5 being a launch title for PS3, yah right, pipe dream. If you know Kaz, him and his team are not good with deadlines, he's a perfectionist(funny how GT crappy AI slipped past him). I'd be crazy to place any bets on GT5 launching with PS3, it also isn't a good idea, it would have loads more impact once the system has gotten into more hands of the people.

 

[Sprite]

Dont know if this has been posted yet (cant be going throug all the pages) but...

Some may remember that Gran Turismo 4 had its online mode dropped in favor of releasing a newer version, designed specifically for this feature, down the road. The reason given at the time was that online components were the only thing holding an already extremely delayed title from release. However it appears that the wait for GT4nline is nearing an end.

The first details of the title should come at E3, as well as a playable demo. The game is still slated to be on the PS2, although with the PS3 launch looming there is the possibility that GT4nline could share some basic things in common with GT5. Details on GT5 have been few and far between; however the release of GT4nline should help to improve GT5’s online experience. PS3Portal will keep you informed of any new information and give you our impressions of the demo at E3.

 

[Dimitrov]

Share basic things with GT5? What?

<dream>
Maybe are we facing the possibility of GT4O and GT5 connect together and play in the same world?
</dream>

 

[Dave A]

The article is specualting, theres absolutely nothing like that come from Sony. If the two game can connect it'll be like GT games have in the past, nothing more.

 

[el flexo]

YES! i have onlin ps2 capabilities aswell! cant wait to be racing you guys

 

[Robin]

Hmmmm interesting but it is very unlikely that I would buy GT4 online....

1. If its another 30 pounds then no way!
2. Would need to buy a network adaptor and pay for the subscription...plus would need to get broadband again..
3. Didnt rele enjoy GT4 as much as I thought I would, if the features like cars, tracks etc are the same then no...
4. Will be thinking about next gen PS3 stuff by then... already saving up and not buying anymore ps2 games...unless something amazing it out...

 

[Wolfe]

I wouldn&#8217;t go as far as to call GT4 a &#8220;beta&#8221; . Gran Turismo is a journey to perfection &#8212; GT4 was merely the fourth (major) stepping stone towards this goal.

The physics and graphics engines in regards to GT4 were of higher priority than the AI, hence its level of suckination. However even then it is clear that these elements aren&#8217;t as good as they could&#8217;ve been. Many track textures still hold dates of 2003, considering the wishy&#8211;washy release schedule, compared to today, GT4 could&#8217;ve been comparatively so, so much better.

Even with the PS2 being pushed beyond breaking point (Sony warranties ), the LAN mode works when set up properly, XLink Kai produces working results, so an online mode is probably more feasible than already thought.

And now we&#8217;re back at square one. Ho hum.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you had called it a beta.

...and I love that new word you came up with, there..."suckination."

 

[tha_con]

I'm guessing it's the same as GT4 only with online mode, if it is I won't be getting it. It'll be a bit too late anyway probably, I'd have bought a PS2 network adapter if it had come out last year but the end of this year, I don't so, I'll be wanting the PS3 by then.

I know you posted this a long time ago, but I figured I'd point out the error of your ways.

Wait for PS3

Buy the game.

You will then be capable of playing it online, with AA and in high def (if you have an HDTV) on your PS3. Problem solved.

The only reasun I suggest this, is because we all know GT5 is miles away, and this *may* tide people over for a while.



Assuming it really comes out.

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

I believe you already heard of this, just wanted to add:

So i was reading PSM while staring at my new iPod Nano and i was happy to hear that talks of GT4 online is circuiting around. And at E3 PD is expected to unveil the game!

Features include:
-6 player online
-MORE CARS!!!
-Options to upload replays and participate in tournaments!!!

Just gotta wait till E3 though.

 

[Christhedude]

I believe you already heard of this, just wanted to add:

So i was reading PSM while staring at my new iPod Nano and i was happy to hear that talks of GT4 online is circuiting around. And at E3 PD is expected to unveil the game!

Features include:
-6 player online
-MORE CARS!!!
-Options to upload replays and participate in tournaments!!!

Just gotta wait till E3 though.

well....we can discuss about that later...

more cars, i dont belive anything what they say, until i got a real proof for my eyes.

seyonara

chris

 

[<_Spike_>]

I've trusted PSM and what they come out with a lot, and it's usually true...there's no fun if you don't allow yourself to hope.

 

[McLaren]

When it came to games LIKE GT, I trust PSM 90% of the time and I'll trust them on this.

But I won't get my hopes up b/c I expect the new cars to be mostly Japanese.

 

[DuckRacer]

But I won't get my hopes up b/c I expect the new cars to be mostly Japanese.

Most of them will be Japanese, but think of the non-Japanese cars. BMW M6, Corvette C6 (maybe even the Z06!), the old Mini Cooper, etc.? What if they're in?

 

[Vonie]

I doubt that there will be many completly new cars like the M6 or C6.
It will probably moslty be cars that were in different versions or variations of existing cars. Maybe a new car or two, but nothing huge.

 

[ToyotaDrifter]

so whens it out because the first page artical is broken.. pm me plz

 

[Dave A]

We don't know, if indeed it does come out it'll be sometime this year, expected during Q2, but we'll hear more info at E3. But theres a rumour that it's been dropped.

 

[JFM92_GTRacer]

E3 will most definitely bring you the news.

 

[McLaren]

Most of them will be Japanese, but think of the non-Japanese cars. BMW M6, Corvette C6 (maybe even the Z06!), the old Mini Cooper, etc.? What if they're in?

Of course, you know my answer.

I'm not getting any hopes on new manufacturers though.
If there is, and it's not Japanese, I will be very surprised.

You speak of the M6, I speak of the M Roadster and Coupe.
You speak of the Z06, I speak of the Viper (perhaps bringing back the RT/10 while at it?).

 

[Kuhnaydeein]

As long as we get a free online-adaptor with the game, I'll get it.

Dude, if you don't have one already, good luck finding one! And failing that, you oughta just go pick up a new PSTwo already 'cause it's built into the system!

I've had my network adapter since SOCOM, and it was on the discount shelf at wal mart even then, years ago. So, I don't know where to find them outside of eBay... let alone included with a game!

Although, there are some USB alternatives, but the game itself has got to include the Drivers (Pun intended) for it to be used (See: Tony Hawk 3 for PS2: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:JoYIbtg2jgkJ:www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005NN5G%3Fv%3Dglance+tony+hawk+3+online+usb+adapter&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari)

But, I really doubt that's gonna happen.