New Seasonal: German Touring Car Championship

[gthead01]

Got it by 3 seconds. I had too much wing in.

 

[hyyperactive]

I did the eiger in a stock 190 evo touring car with racing hards. The key is to nail the slow hairpin corners. The car is all about managing the understeer so keep it tight on the inside line in those corners. You can brake really late into the first one of those too. The corner entry understeer is pretty horrible in that car so didn't use it elsewhere than in the eiger and the track maker one where sports softs are enough too just like on other tracks as well I'd guess.

The bmw gtr car with sports hards is great fun around the city track. Very nice power oversteer and the sound is actually pretty nice too. The city track is great fun and doable with stock m3 gtr with sport hards.

The indy oval is pretty stupid choise for a track for these cars. Pd, come on! Use fuji more often and maybe try a 2 lapper on the longer ring versions...? Or use daytona road course even if it sucks a lot.

 

[V8Loverrr]

I got to say, this was one of the seasonals I enjoyed the much, great fun!

 

[SlyckTires]

I don't mean to sound big headed or anything but I beat all these races first try with no assists in the Audi A4 and then again with the Lexus

The Audi's good for these, providing you can dial out the oversteer using aero. You don't even need racing softs, I got by on Hard & Med (Eiger was 'challenging' to say the least on hards)

 

[kowreck]

Didnt have any oversteer in the audis but the clk does have quiet an oversteer. Used it in madrid and it gets the job done. Finsing it hard to win on eiger though. Always finishing second.

 

[SlyckTires]

Didnt have any oversteer in the audis but the clk does have quiet an oversteer. Used it in madrid and it gets the job done. Finsing it hard to win on eiger though. Always finishing second.

You might not have noticed it if you set the wing before you started - only really showed up in the tight corners of Eiger.

 

[gtnoobie]

Any tips of winning the Eiger Norwand Short Track? Tunes? Car? I tried many times but only got once to the 3rd place. Any recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks

It's not easy for me but try fully mod ISF concept with race soft. Set acceleration LSD down to 25 so that the tail happy tendency is reduced. Go easy on acceleration and brake earlier than brake line. Max both downforce. If still not able to win go for driving aids like sfr traction n asm to reduce chance of facing wrong way or stick to wall. eiger reverse is the most fun I have in a long while. I suspect Mercedes clk is superior but have not tried.

 

[JohnBM01]

The reason why I'm not using the M3 GTR or the R8 LMS is because they don't really make sense to match up against the touring cars. So I'm sticking with proper touring cars for this series. Then too, I feel a bit tempted to try out either Audi R8 LMS I have at the Eiger Nordwand Short Reverse event...

 

[ajns73]

Is it just me, or does the AI seem particularly devious at Eiger? Perhaps it's due to the track being so narrow, but I've seen the AI do some crazy swerving to prevent me overtaking, throwing themselves in my line. This is especially true on the short straight parts. I think my car is fast enough to win without any more tweaking, but the overtaking is keeping me from the victory. I guess it beats pushover AI.

Agreed. I even thought I saw some early braking/late acceleration in and out of the hairpins to slow you up. If you are trying to race clean, this is definitely not an easy go. If you don't mind "rubbing" then it becomes much easier (And remember,"Cole, he didn't hit you. He rubbed you,and rubbin' is racin'.)

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Is it just me, or does the AI seem particularly devious at Eiger? Perhaps it's due to the track being so narrow, but I've seen the AI do some crazy swerving to prevent me overtaking, throwing themselves in my line. This is especially true on the short straight parts. I think my car is fast enough to win without any more tweaking, but the overtaking is keeping me from the victory. I guess it beats pushover AI.

That's pretty interesting. I'm going to have to pay more attention to what the AI do the next time I try that race again.

 

[flamingchariot]

That's pretty interesting. I'm going to have to pay more attention to what the AI do the next time I try that race again.

I don't pay that much attention to what they're doing I just overtake at any given opportunity late braking approaching the inside of a hairpin (no contact), passing on the outside of a hairpin and racing side by side to the next corner playing 'chicken' for the racing line. Its a tricky couple of hairpins but if you can go through them without losing too much speed winning shouldn't be a problem.

I drive with traction control off it allows for faster lap times (if you don't drive like a total ****). I don't see the appeal of racing soft tires - I never go better than hard or mediums on beasts of cars that need it for grip. ABS 1. Did with Lexus. Merc CLK and BMW M3GTR going to try the 190 Evo II and the Alfa 155 next and then the Audi's and rake in that coin.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

Did them all in a stock ABt Audi A4 Touring, and I loved it. The beast sounds like a cracked out bee on meth, and I can't believe I waited so long to use it.

 

[Sohvakettu]

For me the main problem of Eiger was that i wasn't used to driving it in that direction and not with cars as fast as the ones used in the event. Once getting used to it it was reasonably easy.

 

[gtnoobie]

Did them all in a stock ABt Audi A4 Touring, and I loved it. The beast sounds like a cracked out bee on meth, and I can't believe I waited so long to use it.

👍
Way better than the Lexus ISF to me now. At first I could hardly believe that my upgraded 790 hp Lexus ISF had greater difficulty than stock 490hp A4 in winning some of the more technical courses like eiger n Madrid. Amazing handling and definitely way less tail happy. Maybe it's because I overpowered the Lexus. Nevertheless great car for the seasonals. Will be trying with m3.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

MFT now has tunes for Calibra and 155 TI Try them out.

 

[Brend]

Is this as challenging as the SuperGT events?

 

[MeanElf]

The reason why I'm not using the M3 GTR or the R8 LMS is because they don't really make sense to match up against the touring cars. So I'm sticking with proper touring cars for this series. Then too, I feel a bit tempted to try out either Audi R8 LMS I have at the Eiger Nordwand Short Reverse event...

Yeah, this is true for me too - I won't even bother with the Lexus. That way there are still plenty of cars to choose from.

 

[blauster654]

Other than Eiger, and once again, not much of a challenge imo. The track choices are also bizare. Why no Nurb? If he's going to give us a cash cow, why not make it callenging and enjoyable.

 

[rssjib]

Using the Lexus also....wondering if it was only me that was having issues with Eiger...got 2nd the first time but, like others, was over-driving the course....took it easy the 2nd time and took 1st on the last lap finally! LOL

The Eifel track was cool too....

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Click here.

 

[Lambob]

Click here.

Love tha Alpha Tune, on Eiger revers Seasonal,
No assists except for ABS 1 (PD needs to allow smoother ABS 0 soon I hope)

best Lap time, 1:03.005

Love how the car can take some hairpains (1st long left after bridge, and last long left going uphill) at full gas.

Had to raise the FD gear ratio for this track, to lower top speed. Thanks for the tune.

(best lap = 58.5s on Audi LMS, but that car is too clumsy on this track)

 

[testorz]

Anyone else using the Lexus IS concept race car for these? I only picked that one as it's the only premium car I have for this series. Not the easiest car out of the bunch. All this thing wants to do is drift.

Yes I used it to win the GTC seaonal ! After a few tuning tweaks, I was wining by an average margin of 8 secs !

 

[axletramp]

I found this was all in the tyres. No need to tune or change anything on the Merc CLK '00 (the first car I tried) apart from RS for Eiger. Once I'd nailed that I found I could win at Eiger on RH tyres as well - basically used RS to find my lines and break points then adjusted for slightly less grip - job done.

I haven't used the R8 as it would completely destroy the field. The Alfa 155 is very tricky untuned.

EDIT: You might find playing with the gearing helps. Set top speed at 160mph for Eiger, 180mph for Madrid & Eifel and about 200mph for Indianapolis & Sarthe.

 

[miata22]

It's not easy for me but try fully mod ISF concept with race soft. Set acceleration LSD down to 25 so that the tail happy tendency is reduced. Go easy on acceleration and brake earlier than brake line. Max both downforce. If still not able to win go for driving aids like sfr traction n asm to reduce chance of facing wrong way or stick to wall. eiger reverse is the most fun I have in a long while. I suspect Mercedes clk is superior but have not tried.

Thanks for your suggestion. I finally manage to win by using the CLK touring car with a few tunes and using Racing Soft.

 

[Echelonian]

I used that CLK touring car; I noticed that was the car usually leading and fought fire with fire. No upgrades apart from the obligatory oil change, lowered the top speed to facilitate acceleration out of those corners. Wasn't the perfect run; the tail swung out behind me a few times and I have a feeling that my CLK was hinting she would like a beach holiday the amount of time spent with at least one wheel in the sand on those corners but I did enough.

My best lap was a 1:03.930. Is that good?

Edit: This was on the Eiger track btw

 

[gtnoobie]

My best lap was a 1:03.930. Is that good?

Edit: This was on the Eiger track btw

That's really good. I went with stock Audi A4 but on RS and my best lap was 1:05xxx. Average 1:06xxx and already leading by middle of lap 4 on Eiger.
Must try stock CLK soon.

Edit: I tried CLK. Good car. Untuned except max downforce. Assist off. Abs 1. Best lap 1.03.05x. The rest all 1.03.xxx except 1st lap 1.04.xxx Faster than A4 but still prefer A4 handling. Won by 5 seconds. Rest of the events all won by more than 9s. Can't wait for next seasonal.

 

[sanpanico]

Now, all we need is Hockenheim circuit and we'll be complete for the series. 💡 Speaking of, doesn't Shift 2 have the long Hockenheim course?

 

[cBlondes]

...so what's the Alfa 155 doing in the German Touring Car Championship anyway. "Excuse me Sir, can I see your papers!!!"

 

[STI9]

...so what's the Alfa 155 doing in the German Touring Car Championship anyway. "Excuse me Sir, can I see your papers!!!"

Same with the Lexus Racing Concept. WTF I thought German Rules were strict

 

[axletramp]

...so what's the Alfa 155 doing in the German Touring Car Championship anyway. "Excuse me Sir, can I see your papers!!!"

It's a German version if BTCC and WTC with it's own rules and regs and, as with the other two, open to any manufacturer. It just happens to be dominated by the main German manufacturers.