No used cars

get rid of used cars..... no way.. the whole point of the game in the beginning is to buy your crap new car and build up, you cnat just get rid of them....👎
 
ls2_297
get rid of used cars..... no way.. the whole point of the game in the beginning is to buy your crap new car and build up, you cnat just get rid of them....👎


Pretty much my opinion too.
 
Keep the used cars section, apart from beeing an important part of the game setup (begin with a crappy car and move up on the car-ladder) it also helpes the game beeing interesting a lot longer.

From all 4 Gran turismo game GT3 was fun for the shortest time, mainly due to the absence of the used car section ;)
 
yes, it is rather interest some of it eh :lol:

With regards to the thread title, I think it would be a big mistake to remove the many older used cars. They add a great deal of depth to the game in many ways, well beyond a one-off race to keep the game completion percentage ticking over.
 
MugenVTEC
So what ??? That brings more reality in the game. When you start racing you USUALLY dont start with a brand new top shape car unless you're rich. But the game is not planned that way. I think the used cars are a good thing and should be included in Gran Turismo Vision. :)


yeah seriously keep the used cars cause if theres no used cars then that means no old cars at all no trueno etc :crazy:
 
ls2_297
get rid of used cars..... no way.. the whole point of the game in the beginning is to buy your crap new car and build up, you cnat just get rid of them....👎

ahh yes you can, the lose of power being used and all p*sses me off
keep older cars but have them to purchase as brand new, even if they were made in 1960 it is a game for ****s sake have the original specd cars not some clapped out used one
 
I'd like to see more unique cars in the used car lots. More history and stuff.

Going to a scrapyard and seeing an old worn out Vette is real cool:tup:
 
Classic Anycar
I don't want to have to pick from used cars that are mostly Japanese and are usually worn down, have high milage, and bad oil. Just give me $20,000 and I will be happy, for I can get a decent starter car with that for once.
That ruins the whole feel of real life racing, what racers usually start out ith IS a Japanese Import racer with high milage.
 
Master_Yoda
That ruins the whole feel of real life racing, what racers usually start out ith IS a Japanese Import racer with high milage.

i dont think it ruins anything
the least they could do is allow a tune up to get the car back to its orginal specs, not 20 or 30 kw's under
 
... and a random car lot generator so they at least behave like real car lots and not some set list made to look random. Everything from colours, miles, and models. Having a set list isn't very real either... "Hey, if I wait another week a 6.4 mile car just like this one's going to be on this lot..." They could have done something like this a lot better, wouldn't you say?
 
If you want to talk about nationality of cars and nationalities, then it is good to say that you can look for some American and European used cars. I guess if you want to be "lazy," then you can pick a used car from a lot, and if the oil hasn't been changed or cleaned the secondhand dealer will change the oil and clean the car for you, only thing is that you pay a small fee in addition to the car you're getting. So if you get the service and you get a car for 18K Cr., then add about 100 Cr. Your final price on the Used Car would be 18,100 for my example Used Car.

Why are we still debating that there shouldn't be used cars when a majority of people in this post have unanimously voted against removing Used Cars? Keep Used Cars, maybe touch up on the Used Car deal a bit. But get rid of it, and you'll have thousands, even millions of unhappy GT fans. If you want a GT3 system, then go right ahead. I still prefer used cars even if you can win cars for just clearing a License Test series with all Bronze, all Silver, or all Gold. Keep all used cars and bury this discussion 6... no, 12 feet deep.
 
I said in my orignal post (as y2kgamer) that I prefer the GT3 model (new cars only). That would make it easier to for us to browse and find the color we wanted. We also wouldn't have to worry about HP loss on high mileage cars, and hunting down 6.2 mile cars.

However, since many people would like used cars... I propose a compromise. We go with the GT4 model, but we add the option to build brand new engines so we can recover lost HP. Add a paint shop and I'll be happy. :)
 
Since damage will be a part of the game - at least proposed, then it shouldn't be too surprising to find that GT5 has a full garage set up to allow you to recondition as well as upgrade old cars. GT4 already gives us the option to recondition the body of an older or well driven car to restiffen it to factory spec.

I'd like to see a mixture of scheduled as well as random used cars. I'm hoping that there will be some specials, such as sports cars with racing mods on them for sale at a good price.
 
Sorry to drag this up again, but during all the patriotic american hoo-haa about the Viper (Chrysler, natch) no one noticed this time...

~1:14.8 --- 125.133 km/h - Lotus Exige S1 (sport auto 11/00)
~1:14.9 --- 124.966 km/h - Dodge Viper SRT-10

The 189bhp Lotus Exige was .1 quicker than big daddy brutus which didn't average a higher speed either. Yes with less than 200bhp, Britain's supreme MoCo can make a car faster with a bloody Rover K Series. End of I'd say.
 
Again, what's wrong with Used Cars? It isn't like someone f:censored:ed up a car and then sold it off to some secondhand dealer for you to screw it up a little more. When you're starting out, you normally won't have enough money to get that Viper or that SLR McLaren. In fact, you're not going to have enough to get a solid and legit sports car. Since you don't have enough for a true sports car starting out, that is why you look for used cars. Most cars 10,000 Cr are likely low-priced and weak compacts and minis (not the Mini Cooper, mind you). So, you're better off getting a used car. The more miles it has, the lower it costs. Don't you want to have a nice car to start out with rather than waste money on a brand-new car? If you're fortunate, you will likely find a good car for about 4K to 6K and be able to mod it in basic terms. You know, Sports Tires, Racing Chip, maybe even some Weight Reduction. Don't forget that you need to get an oil change for it to replace the old oil. The dealer isn't going to do it for you, so don't be lazy and take the car as is. You own the new car, so you're in charge of every aspect of the car including maintenance. A used car can be every bit as good as a new car. Why want new cars all the time? Look for an old car. Do a little car collecting. Find something you might like. For Christ's sake, just look at a little history.

I'm going to go a bit off-topic now. It was nice seeing some of the older cars in GT4. I think the Honda S500, S600, and S800 are pretty nice-looking automobiles. The Mazda Carol is cute and functional. But for the first time since GT2, two of my all-time favorite Japanese sports cars are in the game- the Datsun 240Z and the Toyota 2000GT. One reason why I love the Used Car lot is because it is full of surprises. Part of the fun of any GT (especially GT4) was looking for an old or older car. The Toyota Supras are still good buys in GT games, but have you ever picked up an Aston Martin V8 Vantage in GT4 from the Used Car lots? How about the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? The Jaguar XKR or XK8? Or what about the car that got me into cars- the 1997 Camaro Z-28? You'll never know what you find. It's the same reason why I look in collections of old computer games when I'm at an EB Games store. I'll never know what I could find. Then when I do find something interesting, I want it! Look for some Used Cars. It only adds to the fun of finding an old auto. It doesn't have to be a pure sports car, either. You can look for a Honda City or even the surprisingly heavy Lotus Carlton. Part of GT's glamour is seeing the world. For GT5, I hope "seeing the world" can inlcude racing in Australia or maybe in South America (preferably Brazil, to support my buddy "Johhny"). Trust me, GTPlanet. The Used Car lot is full of surprises. You may find a gem within a collection of used cars. In addition, you may be able to get that gem at a price that won't break the bank.

So, if you think that Used Cars are an eyesore to the GT series, why not take my advice? I'm not hallucinating when I mention this. It's actually quite a staple that shouldn't be removed. But if you want another GT3 in terms of new and used cars, then go ahead. But it will only rile up GT veterans like myself. So remove Used Cars... at the expense of many GT fans. But if you've been paying attention, keep used cars and keep the fun. Last thing... you dig?
 
vectradriver
Sorry to drag this up again, but during all the patriotic american hoo-haa about the Viper (Chrysler, natch) no one noticed this time....

And isnt this Britain hoo-haa?

vectradriver
~1:14.8 --- 125.133 km/h - Lotus Exige S1 (sport auto 11/00)
~1:14.9 --- 124.966 km/h - Dodge Viper SRT-10

The 189bhp Lotus Exige was .1 quicker than big daddy brutus which didn't average a higher speed either. Yes with less than 200bhp, Britain's supreme MoCo can make a car faster with a bloody Rover K Series. End of I'd say.

But they said the Viper ran a 1:14.6 on another test.......oh nevermind
 
no because that was only one post, not a whole load of posts, so hardly hoo-haa. It must be pretty gauling that to make a fast car, the American auto industry thinks the only way to do it is throw tons of horsepower at it. Hardly the most technical way to do it, is it? If a car is lighter to start with, ala the Exige, it'll be faster on a tight, twisty road/ circuit 9 times out of 10. The American car industry finds the appeal of its cars so limited in the rest of the world because compared to European and Japanese cars, they are way behind.
 
vectradriver
no because that was only one post, not a whole load of posts, so hardly hoo-haa. It must be pretty gauling that to make a fast car, the American auto industry thinks the only way to do it is throw tons of horsepower at it. Hardly the most technical way to do it, is it? If a car is lighter to start with, ala the Exige, it'll be faster on a tight, twisty road/ circuit 9 times out of 10. The American car industry finds the appeal of its cars so limited in the rest of the world because compared to European and Japanese cars, they are way behind.

Now it's 2.

8 out of 10.

too bad most race tracks arent that tight and twisty.
It's not our fault you guys don't have more room for bigger tracks, and can't feel the exhilaration of immense excelleration down long straights, and high-speed sweepers.... hoo-haa
 
Give me an Aston Martin DB9 for racing about in as opposed to a C5R any day. Does suck though that we don't have space for bigger tracks here, but doesn't need to be big to view big cars. Went to Brands Hatch...or was it Snetterton....one of the two...and saw Vipers and 'Vettes shooting round there perfectly fine...even big american cars are good enough on smaller tracks.

edit - as Jeremy Clarkson once said, "America has never ever been able to build cars properly, and the type of car they can't make most of all are sports cars...ever car is built to a price and down to the closest *foot*"...said that when testing out the 05 'Vette come to think of it..
 
You Have to have the used cars!!!for ex. a Haichiroku or AE86 cant be sold as a brand new car like in GT3, that was the down fall. The creators like polyphony digital and the other ppl SHOULD keep the USED car SEction For GT 5 w/o it the GAME WOULD BE wacked OUT AND WOULDNT EVEN BE CLOSE TO REAL LIFE
 
Disturbed07
Viper's massive V-10 engine is mounted on what is believed to be the stiffest sports car chassis ever built. - Bob Sheaves

http://www.allpar.com/model/viphist.htm

though I never said it was stiffer, It may be just as stiff, as I said...
Just a funny read, considering.....
this was printed before the new Vipers were built, with their improved, stiffer chassis....

If the Chrysler Viper only had 375hp, it was detuned for Europe.
Sorry, but that quote is from the original Chrysler press release information. While I appreciate the thought, I did not make the statement. I know it is fact however.

Best regards,

Bob Sheaves
 
Bob_Sheaves
Sorry, but that quote is from the original Chrysler press release information. While I appreciate the thought, I did not make the statement. I know it is fact however.

Best regards,

Bob Sheaves

I sincerly hope this is not actually Bob Sheaves.
P.S. Bob (ha), if it is true, why get a membership just to say you didnt say that? and yet say it is true?
Or are you another Bob Sheaves?
 

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