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Notice of Account Ban measures
- Thread starter SirAlanClive
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- Colchester
- Gedi69
- Never!
not sure that they would lift a ban just because he said that, otherwise everyone could say that.
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- Germany
- Dori-D4G
Gedi69
I know. I couldn't belive that too. But in Facebook somebody write it so i just want to tell it over here. And if you get really banned make a new Account and start all again.
- 9,765
- OrlandoFL GMT-5
- GTP__Jav
Turbo is right, it was inevitably going to happen and PD knowing about it should have simply implemented the drivetrain/powerplant swaps into the game along with effective ways to setup rooms to avoid it becoming a problem.
Any half decent league admin in GT5 would have to spend anywhere between 2 and 5 minutes running performance checks before any race to guarantee fair competition and all this was way before hybriding popped up in GT5.
PD needs to provide its customers with a way of setting room regulations that apply to each car, and no the PP system doesn't work, it never did and it never will!
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- Skuh
How does this compare to the modding scene on the pc?
I don't mean the cracking of dlc, or the opening of a secret menu. Just the basic modding of code.
On pc the modding community is sometimes embraced (not always) by the developers.
Is this vastly different, or is it that it is on console?
I'm not trying to justify it, it's a genuine question.
I don't mean the cracking of dlc, or the opening of a secret menu. Just the basic modding of code.
On pc the modding community is sometimes embraced (not always) by the developers.
Is this vastly different, or is it that it is on console?
I'm not trying to justify it, it's a genuine question.
- 7,625
- Exorcet
- OE Exorcet
- 6,392
- Pennsylvania
- wat3rm370n
I think MOST people have a problem with hacks when it comes to online play. (IE: Griefers & cheaters in official time trials or multiplayer racing online.)
There are people who have probably made a big deal out of hacking back in GT1 or GT2... But were there any punishments for it?
And who here would have a problem with hacking if it was confined to a separate online server or kept strictly offline?
Begging your pardon, but how would you protect against the use of non-allowed legit tuning parts in an offline race series?
At any rate, I hardly think that as many people are doing offline race series as people in gt5 are in online pub lobbies & lounge racing.
I could be wrong about that, but I'm thinking the ratio must be gargantuan.
Again, I think MOST people who are concerned about hacking are mainly concerned about griefers & cheaters, and not being able to prevent people from joining a race with a hacked car that's wrong with the myriad of regulations you CAN set in lounges/lobbies.
People rely on those regulation settings, and if they don't work, that's very annoying.
For example, I organize & host private lounge online race events here. I don't care if people I race with have hacked cars & play with them elsewhere. Makes no difference to me.
But I think even THEY would prefer it if we didn't have to worry AT ALL about some turkey bringing one to our regulated spec races & disrupting things.
I think most of us would rather be able to welcome newcomers to our races, and not have to worry that they're going to be able to do something nutty & disrupt the enjoyment of everyone else. And not have to worry about some bozo hacking up a car to be "just a little" better in order to cheat.
We don't care at all what someone's doing elsewhere, in their own venues, with all participants in agreement.
We just want regulation controls that actually work half decently to prevent cheating & disruption.
Just the one guy (Chris123) here that says his account was banned, but that he had never had any hacks or hybrid cars or anything. So he said he was banned, but apparently NOT for hacking.
A couple people posted that they HEARD that people got banned from using hacked cars in Seasonal Time Trials.
But no one with hacked cars has reported directly that they've gotten banned. On the contrary, this thread is full of people saying, "I've got hacked cars and I'm not banned."
Yeah, who ever heard of PD responding to a written message?
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- Baltimore, MD
- tnogumbo
They're probably waiting to see if it stops or at least considerably dies down before handing out bans. It's more about the malicious act of intentionally remote controling another racer's car to ruin the race. They will get complaints and PSN's of the people but without proof, they cannot do much of anything. If they have a backup save to the cloud (PS Premium), they can check the allegations with the accused's game save, if the stars align and the menu has been enabled, they then have proper reason to ban. They could also disable the account until the game save is turned over and checked.
Just my view of the situation, feel free to comment, criticize, compliment.
Just my view of the situation, feel free to comment, criticize, compliment.
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- wat3rm370n
Have you done this or had this done to you?
If this is common, I haven't heard about it. Is it being discussed somewhere else as a big problem & I just haven't noticed?
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- Baltimore, MD
- tnogumbo
It's never happened to me and nor have I done it, but it has been discussed in this thread previously. Apparently, in the early stages of GT5 development, Kaz wanted a menu that could let others race (think of it as enduro-shifts), but decided it gave too much power and could be a potential source of problems, so instead of completely withdrawing it, they coded it as a hidden menu not integrated in the game. Hex-code guru's have discovered it and have unlocked it and are using it online to ruin others online races.
More info
- 799
- Skuh
Unless I missed something in this thread, this has been shown to be untrue. You cannot control another players car.
- 5,068
- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
- 799
- Skuh
If I missed a post I apologise. I have not used this menu so am only going off what I have read here.
Several people in this thread that have used this menu have stated clearly, you cannot control another persons car from the secret menu.
- 5,068
- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
Yeah, I wasn't contradicting you. I was just saying - that's what people think. But Saxplayer's post seemed to suggest his opinion that it was possible from the secret menu - though he posted a link to a post and in that post there was a quote that said that this was not possible with the secret menu.
Just contradicting Saxplayer, sorry if it was misquoted/misconstrued.
Here's his post in reply to Watermelon:
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- Pennsylvania
- wat3rm370n
Okay sax you wrote this...
Please. Linking to ONE lone voice claiming this issue is NOT evidence that the entire hacking ban issue is based upon it or "more about it" than hacked cars.
ONE person's story about this appearing to have happened to them does NOT make this hacking ban issue all about some possibly fictional exploit that may not in fact have even happened to the ONE person who reported it.
As far as I can see their LONE ONE story could be more easily explained by LAG.
I'm not buying it unless I hear about at least MORE than ONE person reporting this happening.
Not that I am accusing the person who reported this as makin' it up. I simply think that maybe there was some kind of weird lag involved or some other explanation for what they experienced.
Please. Linking to ONE lone voice claiming this issue is NOT evidence that the entire hacking ban issue is based upon it or "more about it" than hacked cars.
ONE person's story about this appearing to have happened to them does NOT make this hacking ban issue all about some possibly fictional exploit that may not in fact have even happened to the ONE person who reported it.
As far as I can see their LONE ONE story could be more easily explained by LAG.
I'm not buying it unless I hear about at least MORE than ONE person reporting this happening.
Not that I am accusing the person who reported this as makin' it up. I simply think that maybe there was some kind of weird lag involved or some other explanation for what they experienced.
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- Pennsylvania
- wat3rm370n
Well there is actually I think a condition that makes people like that. 
Though from what I've heard it afflicts barely 4% of the population.
Though from what I've heard it afflicts barely 4% of the population.
- 5,068
- Glasgow
- GTP_iainoflo
Well there is actually I think a condition that makes people like that.
Though from what I've heard it afflicts barely 4% of the population.
I keep being reminded of SimonK's quote about statistics.
But I think I know what you're referring to. Something with lots of letters - um is it ADHD? If it is, then more than 4% must have that condition, the doctors in this country are rather quick in diagnosing it.
- 6,392
- Pennsylvania
- wat3rm370n
No not ADHD I dont know anything about that.
But it doesn't matter - it's easily googled.
But who knows what the statistics are for any personality type or brain issue or whatever when you're talking about video games. (Chances are it's skewed.)
Of course there's a far wider audience now for video games than there was even a few years ago. But still. There's plenty of people who never touch them and really never have and might never.
My mother came to stay with us last year & my husband put her on the gt5 sunday cup at autumn ring mini in a Suzuki swift with sports tires & traction control... and she had a good time.
But though my senior citizen mother MIGHT have enjoyed GT5.... how likely is it that if my mother got a ps3 & started racing online that she'd get into hacked cars? NOT VERY. lol
But it doesn't matter - it's easily googled.
But who knows what the statistics are for any personality type or brain issue or whatever when you're talking about video games. (Chances are it's skewed.)
Of course there's a far wider audience now for video games than there was even a few years ago. But still. There's plenty of people who never touch them and really never have and might never.
My mother came to stay with us last year & my husband put her on the gt5 sunday cup at autumn ring mini in a Suzuki swift with sports tires & traction control... and she had a good time.
But though my senior citizen mother MIGHT have enjoyed GT5.... how likely is it that if my mother got a ps3 & started racing online that she'd get into hacked cars? NOT VERY. lol
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- Baltimore, MD
- tnogumbo
I'm not saying that I know remotely controlling another users car is possible. I cannot verify it, but if this rings true and there are more cases, PD probably knows about them.
- 6,392
- Pennsylvania
- wat3rm370n
Well I think that's wild speculation.
And certainly NO evidence that it's "most of the problem" that the hacking ban is trying to address.
After all, we've heard all sorts of stories about altered body panels & videos of sloppy drivers in over powered cars trying to pretend they're not cheating by being light on the accelerator. People are widely admitting to having hacked cars in general for their own amusement.
Clearly people have been up in arms about that stuff.
I've seen exactly 1 claim that remotely controlling another driver's car happened. And zero people claiming they can do it. (Which is even more odd in itself if it were true, as people who can do these things are usually only too happy to brag about having done it... or at least bragging about having the ability to do it.)
I'm sorry but I think pushing this idea as if it's something significant & likely real, is nothing but fear mongering & stirring up trouble about what people are actually up to out there with the hacks.
