Notice of Account Ban measures

[watermelon punch]

So keep your cars. And FYI the Report Button does nothing in Online Rooms. I asked someone to spam it on me and nothing happened -.-

Maybe because PD found that you wasn't guilty of anything?

Yeah I really think they have some way of knowing if you've been doing something... or maybe several reports will trigger something happening.

But something CAN happen, because I've heard on mics conversation in pub lobbies occasionally over the past 2 years of people having gotten bans on some of their accounts from what sounded like people had reported them for griefing. (The guilty parties talking about it didn't call it "griefing" of course - but what they were describing was basically going into lobbies & tearing it up to annoy people.)
But this has nothing directly to do with hacked cars or whatnot. I'd heard these stories mostly over a year ago.

I've never used the report button myself, nor the Grief Reporting page. Thus far blocking PSN IDs has seemed to do the trick for me as far as I can tell, with the turkeys who've caused trouble in say my pub lobbies.

But I also have seen stories from PSN pals (nobody on GTP) & around about the web, of people having people stalk them on gt5 pub lobbies to the point where they DID report them. When I say stalk, I mean some guy minding his own business gets someone griefing him, he kicks the griefer, blocks the griefer, then the griefer uses successive alternate accounts to send messages or join the guy's lobbies and cause more trouble. (As nutty & pointless as this sounds, apparently there are people who will do this. Well, the internet is not exactly a hot bed of mental health of course.)
At least 2 cases I've heard about this, the harassment did finally stop after reporting - so something must've happened.

My guess is that there's some archive of saved PSN msgs or whatnot that can be checked if a report is made.
If you don't think they keep them, think again, it's a small matter. They likely don't keep logs like that forever. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were kept for a few weeks or 90 days or something like that.

Again, this has to do with general harassment and nothing to do specifically with hacking or hacked cars. But one imagines if you can get in trouble for griefing without hacks, you certainly could be at risk for getting in trouble for griefing WITH hacks.

My guess is if you haven't heard of anyone on GTPlanet that's gotten banned for griefing, it's more likely because even the craziest people posting on GTP are not as big bozos as some of the nutballs that go through great lengths to grief!

Let's keep this in perspective.

If you haven't been using hacked cars to cheat in Time Trials, nor persistently griefing, harassing, or stalking other players on PSN, you're probably just NOT a big enough bad 🤬 to wind up banned.

 

[GT BOSS]

Will everyone who hacked a car get banned?

 

[Kitten]

Will everyone who hacked a car get banned?

We went over this... Read the damn thread.

If PD would ban everyone. GT5 would be a Ghost town.

 

[saxplayer1998]

Will everyone who hacked a car get banned?

You seem to be late so let me run this through. Most likely not, but we are unsure, the only bans would be cheating in RANKED seasonals like the time and drift trials. We are pretty certain that they wont ban millions of people who have or make hybrids as long as they don't use them to cheat. If you are banned, it will most likely be an IP block, which can be wiggled around. You will only be blocked from the GT5 online features, the rest of the games you own will be available online. Word to the wise: don't use them in anything other than "hack lobbied" and personal lounges and you'll be fine.

 

[watermelon punch]

If you are banned, it will most likely be an IP block, which can be wiggled around.

Saxplayer1998 - again with the cherry picking posts & then repeating things that are possibly in error!

They are banned, but they found a way around PD's IP block. All I can say.

Console ID, sorry.

I would be careful using anything Hei has posted, and use a grain of salt, as it's clear he doesn't post complete thoughts nor proofread what he writes.

 

[SirAlanClive]

The problem isn't just people cheating in TT's. GTPlanet runs a lot of events which can theoretically be cheated in (WRC stuff, or any of the many online races run here) so I made a new thread over at NGU:

Hi. I'm an avid GT5 player who partakes regularly in the WRS TT and online races over at GTPlanet. I'm also a C# developer but I don't really have the inclination or knowledge to touch this job. Is it feasible to create an app which can determine if a playback contains a modified car? As things are it's becoming difficult to trust people. This would be something which would allow our two communities to coexist in greater harmony.
Thanks
Alan

Let's see if there are any real people there or if it's just kids having fun being naughty.

Whoah....post #666....it's a sign...an omen!

 

[arora]

The motivation for modding GT5 seems clear:

I don't think he meant that in a literal sense, it's satire.

 

[SirAlanClive]

I don't think he meant that in a literal sense, it's satire.

Then it's certainly in bad taste.

 

[GT BOSS]

You seem to be late so let me run this through. Most likely not, but we are unsure, the only bans would be cheating in RANKED seasonals like the time and drift trials. We are pretty certain that they wont ban millions of people who have or make hybrids as long as they don't use them to cheat. If you are banned, it will most likely be an IP block, which can be wiggled around. You will only be blocked from the GT5 online features, the rest of the games you own will be available online. Word to the wise: don't use them in anything other than "hack lobbied" and personal lounges and you'll be fine.

I'll be fine then since I only use mine offline and on private lounges.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I would be careful using anything Hei has posted, and use a grain of salt, as it's clear he doesn't post complete thoughts nor proofread what he writes.

They have found a way around it. I don't know how, but I read on NGU that someone got banned and with the help of someone else were able to get around it.

 

[watermelon punch]

They have found a way around it. I don't know how, but I read on NGU that someone got banned and with the help of someone else were able to get around it.

And you too turb - no complete thought here either.
Get around what? IP ban? PS3 ID ban?

 

[Hei]

Saxplayer1998 - again with the cherry picking posts & then repeating things that are possibly in error!




I would be careful using anything Hei has posted, and use a grain of salt, as it's clear he doesn't post complete thoughts nor proofread what he writes.

I guess conceding to not start an argument is a bad idea. Anyway, done with you.

 

[Maccer_42]

And you too turb - no complete thought here.
Get around what? IP ban? PS3 ID ban?

They make a new account and re-assign their save file to it using a tool or programe, keeping all their hacked/hybrid cars and game progress etc and allowing them to play on GT5's servers again.

That's what people are doing to get arround the ban.

 

[watermelon punch]

I think it's perfectly legitimate to ask for clarification when someone posts half-sentence remarks without complete information or at least some indication of what they're referencing.


Append: IE: it's not an argument. It's a conversation. How else are you supposed to communicate anything? Should we all assume just anything that might be hinted about?

They make a new account and re-assign their save file to it using a tool or programe, keeping all their hacked/hybrid cars and game progress etc and allowing them to play on GT5's servers again.

That's what people are doing to get arround the ban.

Well that doesn't sound like it involves a PS3 console ID ban NOR an IP ban.

Which that's what there seems to be confusion about.

 

[Kitten]

Im done with this thread -.-

 

[saxplayer1998]

OK. STOP. Stop accusing people of lying and whatnot. I know if it's on the web, it really cannot be believed, but I have nothing else to go on. So for now, I believe. My posts could possibly be incorrect or false, but they also can be true, and other's posts can be incorrect. Your posts can be incorrect. Hie's can be correct or incorrect. Ever heard innocent until proven guilty, I have no reason to believe that what Hei is saying isn't true, but there is no real proof in any post in this thread. Until someone can find definite proof (preferably on NGU), then I am believing what is here.

 

[watermelon punch]

Saxplayer1998 I did NOT accuse anyone of LYING.
I've accused people of not being clear.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
And I've accused you of repeating things as fact, when in fact, it's not even clear what's fact.

 

[saxplayer1998]

Arguing over this just ain't worth my time. Believe what you want to believe and have a good day. Bye.

 

[Hei]

I just put him on my ignore's list. No more problems.

 

[watermelon punch]

Yes, well it's clear to me that this thread is just full of half innuendos or speculations of what someone's heard on another forum.
To me that reeks of rumour mongering.
I would advise anyone looking for actual information to not take anything here as quality information at all.

 

[P0UP0N]

The entertainment value of this thread is priceless!

 

[Kitten]

The entertainment value of this thread is priceless!

*grabs popcorn*

 

[watermelon punch]

The entertainment value of this thread is priceless!

That's about all the value you'll find.

*grabs popcorn*

Here ya go

 

[GT BOSS]

Saxplayer1998 I did NOT accuse anyone of LYING.
I've accused people of not being clear.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
And I've accused you of repeating things as fact, when in fact, it's not even clear what's fact.

And I'm accusing you of getting on mine and other people's nerves.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Well that doesn't sound like it involves a PS3 console ID ban NOR an IP ban.

Which that's what there seems to be confusion about.

Seems to be just a simple PSN id ban, just like here in GTplanet - username ban, banned people can still return with another username and another IP address ( simple stuff ). PS3 MAC address ban would be better.

 

[arora]

SO I have decided to test this. I set up a dummy account with a 2,xxx,xxx hp X1, did every time and drift trial available as of 2/1/2013 (Drift with a modified R34 with Z06 drivetrain). I woke up this morning not able to access any online capabilities on that account. I switched back to my primary account and it is still absolutely fine and working.

This is what I think is going on, so PD is banning accounts from their servers. Unclear if it's the parent account and it's sub accounts or what but it seems clear to me it is not an ip ban(getting around that is easy anyway) or a ps3 id ban(all accounts parent or sub or whatever will have the same id).

Someone already pointed this out.

They make a new account and re-assign their save file to it using a tool or programe, keeping all their hacked/hybrid cars and game progress etc and allowing them to play on GT5's servers again.

That's what people are doing to get arround the ban.

EDIT: and tree'd

 

[GT BOSS]

I think we need someone who got banned to come on this thread and say what happened

 

[watermelon punch]

Seems to be just a simple PSN id ban, just like here in GTplanet - username ban, banned people can still return with another username and another IP address ( simple stuff ). PS3 MAC address ban would be better.

THANK YOU.
That's what it sound like to me.

Any innuendos about IP bans or PS3 console ID bans is I believe, just that - unsubstantiated innuendo.

However, it should be noted that on a forum, IP addresses ARE logged, and people who sign up with a new username on GTPlanet from the same IP are probably flagged and found out. It's been like that on every moderated forum I've ever known. People who try to sign up with a new username on a forum after being banned are usually caught, unless they're very careful to get a new IP or actual new ISP.
Just check the Banned User Log in the Site Support section here. Someone was banned just about a month ago for doing so.
(Note: at a forum I was moderator on many years ago - all ISP & regional similarities were flagged if there was any suspicion. This was when almost nobody had static IPs.)

 

[arora]

However, it should be noted that on a forum, IP addresses ARE logged, and people who sign up with a new username on GTPlanet from the same IP are probably flagged and found out.

That was already noted in the post you quoted

 

[watermelon punch]

@ arora - are you saying that Ridox2JZGTE is saying that there are IP banning being used for the GT5 hacking bans?