Obama Presidency Discussion Thread

[Omnis]

I am glad to see that in my time of limited GTP usage that the bad journalism soapbox has not been left empty.

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Indeed. One of the local news stations even had to waste thousands of dollars and 10 minutes on a story about some North Carolinian's cat getting stuck in her toilet. I mean, really, it's not even local news.

 

[YSSMAN]

Well, its been one helluva interesting week. McCain continues to back-peadal on his comments that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong," saying that he is "fundamentally a deregulator," all while saying that we need more regulation of the banking and trading markets, and suggesting that if he were President that he would "fire" the chairman of the SEC (constitutionalists note that it is not possible).

Wazzupwitdat?

Oh, and Chuck Hagel isn't happy with Palin. What happened to the rest of the "good" Republicans?

 

[Solid Fro]

What an idiot. The media probably wont make a big deal out of it, though, on account he's a Demo. Conservative media might, but shouldn't since this insolent twerp would enjoy it immensely.

Bill O'Reilly will have an investigation tomorrow with Laura Ingraham. Most of the information is coming from the blogs. The Mainstream Media is too worried about how McCain created the Blackberry and why paying more taxes is patriotic.

 

[Joey D]

Oh, and Chuck Hagel isn't happy with Palin. What happened to the rest of the "good" Republicans?

I agree with Senator Hagel, and this comment gave me a bit of a chuckle.

"I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia'...That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

So true Sen. Hagel, so very true.

 

[Solid Fro]

What happened to those "good" Democrats?

Oh, I found them...



So, so very true.

 

[YSSMAN]

I agree with Senator Hagel, and this comment gave me a bit of a chuckle.

"I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia'...That kind of thing is insulting to the American people."

So true Sen. Hagel, so very true.

Thats what I don't understand. I mean, do the leaders in the GOP really think that we're that stupid to actually see it as some kind of qualifier for foreign policy experience? Do they really think that we're not going to get sick of being beaten over the head with lies about 'the bridge to nowhere' or her "maverick" streaks in Alaska? It is insulting, and to be honest, when your own party is insulting you as an intelligent person, thats a problem.

 

[L_Hamilton]

What happened to those "good" Democrats?

Oh, I found them...



So, so very true.

:35 is so true.

 

[Solid Fro]

That's the most damning line in the video, it's from Obama's running mate. To be fair and balanced, here's the whole debate question:



Look, more "good" Democrats!

 

[L_Hamilton]

That's the most damning line in the video, it's from Obama's running mate. To be fair and balanced, here's the whole debate question:



Look, more "good" Democrats!

Hehehe...they don't want to say it. But they make it sooo obvious.

 

[V1P3R]

 

[YSSMAN]

In other "Breaking News," it just came across the wire that Sarah Palin will not be meeting with investigators from the "Troopergate" issue back in Alaska. Its interesting that they're already labeling it as "tainted," despite the issue with the investigation being a bi-partisan issue, in a Republican-controlled legislature. Adding to the oddity, Palin hasn't been subpoenaed, and probably won't be.

So, not only will Gov. Palin not be testifying in this "Troopergate" issue, her husband Todd Palin won't be testifying under subpoena either. Considering that they both promised to cooperate early on, I find this troubling. Even moreso when they say that the board is "tainted," especially when it is being ran by three Republicans and two Democrats. For something that could have been kept a small issue, this could have a lot of people scratching their heads.

 

[Solid Fro]

At least you're not masturbating to Joe Biden, hopefully.

 

[V1P3R]

Oh yeah... no it's palin for sure.

 

[Tornado]

Good read (language warning).

 

[FoolKiller]

Thats what I don't understand. I mean, do the leaders in the GOP really think that we're that stupid to actually see it as some kind of qualifier for foreign policy experience? Do they really think that we're not going to get sick of being beaten over the head with lies about 'the bridge to nowhere' or her "maverick" streaks in Alaska? It is insulting, and to be honest, when your own party is insulting you as an intelligent person, thats a problem.

Why shouldn't the GOP leaders think that? The American people have been falling for the idea that government interference is good for 100 years now. In comparison this should be easy.

And the Dems think that Change we can believe in isn't a pure BS line.


Is it possible for some of you guys to step back and realize that the guy you are voting for is just as full of crap as the guy you keep trying to call out?

 

[Klostrophobic]

Is it me or does McCain look like a bald eagle?

McCain:

Bald Eagle:

I think this bodes well for his American political career. And if not, he has huge potential as a Fourth of July mascot.

 

[YSSMAN]

Is it possible for some of you guys to step back and realize that the guy you are voting for is just as full of crap as the guy you keep trying to call out?

Nobody is perfect that is running, not even Bob Barr. Unfortunately for Republicans and other conservative-friendly folks, McCain ends up being the worse of the three...

 

[Solid Fro]

Is it me or does McCain look like a bald eagle?

I think this bodes well for his American political career. And if not, he has huge potential as a Fourth of July mascot.

I would take the bald eagle over what I think Obama looks like.

 

[Klostrophobic]

True. 'tis better to be a soaring eagle than to spout soaring rhetoric.

 

[Omnis]

Why shouldn't the GOP leaders think that? The American people have been falling for the idea that government interference is good for 100 years now. In comparison this should be easy.

And the Dems think that Change we can believe in isn't a pure BS line.


Is it possible for some of you guys to step back and realize that the guy you are voting for is just as full of crap as the guy you keep trying to call out?

Course not. That's why public schools don't teach anything that develops abstract thought.

 

[YSSMAN]

I think it depends on where you go to school. At least where I was at, the teachers were very active in facilitating the needs of those who have a lot of questions, and for that matter, encouraging us to look outside of our textbooks for better answers. That of course may be because the school could afford to hire better teachers, and for that matter, take pride in give their students the best education possible.

 

[Solid Fro]

Triumph interviews Ralph Nader. (Content warning)

 

[Tornado]

Course not. That's why public schools don't teach anything that develops abstract thought.

At my school many of the teachers certainly had a slant towards the Democrat party, but they always encouraged students to think for themselves regarding who to support.

 

[91hondawagon]

At my school many of the teachers certainly had a slant towards the Democrat party, but they always encouraged students to think for themselves regarding who to support.

Same went for my public high school. The teachers occasionally did discuss their personal opinions, but they never forced them on us. However, many of the students chose to either:

1) Ignore politics completely
2) Form political opinions based on ridiculous premises

Regarding the second one, one of my classmates urged everyone to vote for McCain because Obama is a black Muslim who hates America. Another told me to vote Republican because Sarah Palin is "hot," which apparently automatically qualifies her to be Vice President. I've also been told to vote Democratic because McCain is "old" and "ugly." Keep in mind, these were 18 year-olds with voter cards.

To get back to my point, it's good that Omnis' teachers encouraged individual thought. For the most part, mine did too. However, nobody can be forced to have a logical and well thought-out opinion, and many people simply don't care enough to inform themselves.

 

[Tornado]

Another told me to vote Republican because Sarah Palin is "hot," which apparently automatically qualifies her to be Vice President.

Hell yeah!

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

At my school many of the teachers certainly had a slant towards the Democrat party, but they always encouraged students to think for themselves regarding who to support.

At my high school, my English teacher made us watch/listen to world news. Then they told us that if we want more war and civilian casualties to vote Republican.

 

[Solid Fro]

At my school many of the teachers certainly had a slant towards the Democrat party, but they always encouraged students to think for themselves regarding who to support.

At my high school, my English teacher made us watch/listen to world news. Then they told us that if we want more war and civilian casualties to vote Republican.

Teachers have no business injecting their political opinions in the classroom. My tax dollars pay them to teach, not to spurge their Liberal diarrhea.

 

[Omnis]

Teachers have no business injecting their political opinions in the classroom. My tax dollars pay them to teach, not to spurge their Liberal diarrhea.

That's like asking a fish to stop talking about water. They're public school teachers. Of course their politics will slant toward socialism. My teachers were usually democrats, especially during my early years when only one party was primarily socialistic.

Of course there'd be no complaints (a little more action, on the contrary) if public schools were abolished...

 

[Pupik]

I can remember the Presidential Election being an issue to be discussed in the classroom; it was used to show how voting is a simple form of democracy. That was 1980, and I recall raising my hand for John Anderson. I'm not sure if it was because I didn't understand the question, or if I felt the need to vote as a third-party. It was probably the former.

I don't recall during any election, both state and federal level, a slant being pushed directly on us as students. I spent some time in both private schools (secular and religious) as well as public schools in three states, and I never felt a bias being forced down out throats. There was an exception for sales tax increases towards education but I wasn't old enough to vote for those things and understand the impact back then, anyhow. Teachers were a bit excited for that, since it was directly towards schools (never mind any fine print) for obvious reasons.

Although I had a lot of outspoken public and private school teachers, as well as university professors, none of them really twisted our arms telling us to vote this way or that way, and usually refused to get involved in politics, but they encouraged us to vote or shut up. Maybe things have changed.

This is the kind of thing that upsets me: Don't use your kid as a pawn for your views.

 

[V1P3R]

Just wanted to see what all you guys think of this...