Official Ferrari Challenge Thread

[Zedux]

The drivers names are those of real FC drivers right?
If I was one of them I'd be pissed that they used Kyle Busch to model the AI!
Not only do they move in front of you when you try to pass them causing you to slam into them, they will also force you off the road & I'm not talking just a little bump they will drive in to you & force you off!

I don't get why you are complaining about this! This is soo much better than those dump AI that almost says "please go"! This bring more reality to FC btw the AI in FC will do exctly what you do to them so I think you are driving very rough.

 

[aus1-v8]

The drivers names are those of real FC drivers right?
If I was one of them I'd be pissed that they used Kyle Busch to model the AI!
Not only do they move in front of you when you try to pass them causing you to slam into them, they will also force you off the road & I'm not talking just a little bump they will drive in to you & force you off!

lol..
i agree they seemed to model off that ASS@#$$ KYLE BUSCH. but having saying that i enjoy the challenge with the AI, it makes this game even more fun.
No complaints here with the BASIC gameplay.
The way i see things if you dont like the game Move On to another game.

 

[klondike]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/ferrarichallenge/review.html

Poor A.I. ????
The way they review it looks more like the GT A.I. and not the FC A.I. we see racing with us. Did they play the game?


Oh man READ the title of the game: FERRARI CHALLENGE.
To my knowledge Ferrari Challenge is about Ferraris and tarmac racing.
And within the same brand we have a great balance of cars.

The most weak review since Enthusia for a racing game.

Yeah that guy who worte that review, can hardly have spend more than 30 minutes with the game. 6,5 out of 10 thats just not right.
He point out that the AI racers are scripted like they drive on rails, but that is just as far away from the trueth as it could be. The AI in this game is actually trying to adjust to prevent the player from overtaking them to easy, it may be anoying and a bit unrealistic, but its a lot more of a challenge compared with other games that inded uses these scripts.

In for example GT5 P you will see the AI cars are ecxactly the same everytime, they run off the track the same places, bump in to eachother at the same points and so on. Ill rather take the AI of FC any day of the week.

It just shows us what we already know. Sites like Gamespot, Eurogamer and the like. They are so far away from the trueth when reviewing games. These sites may be ok to look at to see wich games are coming, watch some trailers and the like. But they are not a good hint to find out if a game is good or not. Best thing to do if interested with a game, is to read some forums about the game, eventually use Amazon reviews.

 

[Zedux]

Yeah that guy who worte that review, can hardly have spend more than 30 minutes with the game. 6,5 out of 10 thats just not right.

It just shows us what we already know. Sites like Gamespot, Eurogamer and the like. They are so far away from the trueth when reviewing games.

Best thing to do if interested with a game, is to read some forums about the game, eventually use Amazon reviews.

Don't remember me that I pay to that crap of Gamespot a full subscription! I don't care if they like the PS3 or not but they should be at least balanced when reviewing a PS3 exclusive but unfortunately that isn't how Gamespot does things! Check any 360 exclusive it won't ever get below score 8.5 so I feel so angry with those bastards GT5P got score 7.5! Just wait and see Racer Pro will get over 9.0 just because it's a 360 exclusive!

 

[Biggles]

The trouble with reviews of sim games is that the reviews tend to be aimed at a general audience. Games like Enthusia, F1:CE & FC get mediocre reviews because they don't have that much appeal to the average gamer, whereas they may be very good games for the sim-racing fan.

 

[klondike]

The trouble with reviews of sim games is that the reviews tend to be aimed at a general audience. Games like Enthusia, F1:CE & FC get mediocre reviews because they don't have that much appeal to the average gamer, whereas they may be very good games for the sim-racing fan.

Yes that is true.

But on the otherhand they should review the game for what it is. You dont send a person to review a sushi restaurent if he dont like fish. That would be just a stupid, as having a person who clearly dont like Sim racing games, review a sim racer.

I think part of the problem is still the way the game is marketed. Clearly the games strong point is its handling model. IE it is a sim style racer. But the publisher dosent seem to market it this way. I partly understand that, as rubish games like Grid, NFS and the like even they are arcade sell a lot more copies that Sim racing games.

It is like Chess wich is clearly the best game in history. But still the mainstream public is more interested with games like Poker, backgammon and so on.

 

[Biggles]

Yes that is true.

But on the otherhand they should review the game for what it is. You dont send a person to review a sushi restaurent if he dont like fish. That would be just a stupid, as having a person who clearly dont like Sim racing games, review a sim racer.

I think part of the problem is still the way the game is marketed. Clearly the games strong point is its handling model. IE it is a sim style racer. But the publisher dosent seem to market it this way. I partly understand that, as rubish games like Grid, NFS and the like even they are arcade sell a lot more copies that Sim racing games.

It is like Chess wich is clearly the best game in history. But still the mainstream public is more interested with games like Poker, backgammon and so on.

Agreed. I think it's interesting that Gran Turismo (& Forza) are as successful as they are, but I think that is partly due to the huge amount of money that is invested in producing & marketing them.

 

[TheMoose]

I don't get why you are complaining about this! This is soo much better than those dump AI that almost says "please go"! This bring more reality to FC btw the AI in FC will do exctly what you do to them so I think you are driving very rough.

I'm complaining because they will intentionally crash me, they go way off line in a braking zone to punt you & they will force you off the track.

Yea the first couple of races I was a bit rough but I was just learning the tracks & the cars, since them I'm clean, how long do these Kyle Busch clones hold a grudge?

 

[Zedux]

how long do these Kyle Busch clones hold a grudge?

if you are nice to them sooner or later they will start to "respect" you again!

 

[Rocket Punch]

I'm complaining because they will intentionally crash me, they go way off line in a braking zone to punt you & they will force you off the track.

Yea the first couple of races I was a bit rough but I was just learning the tracks & the cars, since them I'm clean, how long do these Kyle Busch clones hold a grudge?

I just spent another half a day with this game.

I 100% agree with Moose here. The core code for the AI cars are probably taken from skynet, they have no intention to race with you but rather they simply tries to destroy you.

They will dart in and out in the straight, if you happened to be along side them, they will nudge you off the road. They will ram you if they are behind you and the best part is if they hit you as you are going into a corner, they will simply keep accelerating with no intention to steer around you but simply tries to ram you off the track.

Don't get me wrong here, these are by no means "dumb" AI, but they are just freaking "crazy".

The other thing about this game is the way this game progresses will turn off a lot of non uber hardcore gamer as you must sit through the entire game to have all the cars unlocked. It is not so much of a problem if you have 400 cars to start and you only need to unlock 20 of them. You start with 1 of them, and you will have to unlock all of them one by one.

The sad thing is we can't even look at the cars in the showroom as you have to unlock it first and then buy them. I have no idea why the developer can't simply use an economy based car selection system, perhaps it is their way of trying to prolong the game for the players to compensate for the small library of cars in the game.

 

[Rocket Punch]

LOL, the Trophy mode is a joke.....

Is that the only way to unlock cars and circuits? I don't have the time sit thru being constantly ram and taken out by AI cars.

It is worst than the GT5P online noob races....

 

[aus1-v8]

LOL, the Trophy mode is a joke.....

Is that the only way to unlock cars and circuits? I don't have the time sit thru being constantly ram and taken out by AI cars.

It is worst than the GT5P online noob races....

if you hate it that much, go play something else easier that you may be able to handle.
all you have done is post numerous negative posts.
we get your point, you dont like/ or able to play the game.
go somewhere else with your constant complaining.

 

[Rocket Punch]

if you hate it that much, go play something else easier that you may be able to handle.
all you have done is post numerous negative posts.
we get your point, you don't like/ or able to play the game.
go somewhere else with your constant complaining.

Well, first don't mistake the AI being "crazy" from they are being difficult. The AI cars actually is pretty slow, In some races I can actually start lapping cars at the end of a 6 laps race.

Second, I don't "hate" the game, as a matter of fact I spent $59 for it so I am actually "trying" love it. At the core of the game, take away all the AI nonsense and gameplay clunkyness, the driving itself in many areas are actually much better than GT5P and is comparable to some very good PC race sims. Especially under braking, the weight transfer and tire traction part of the code is superb; The only sim that I can recall having such sophistication under that scenario would be something like nkpro or LFS, which for a console game is unheard of. If you compare that part of FC to GT5P, GT5P really feels like a joke.

Of course if you are a fanboy, then I can see how people can get upset. It is not just me who feel the AI is on meth, feel free to check other threads in this forum and FC is not my first driving game so I think my opinions might actually have some truth to it.

 

[klondike]

Rocket Punch. If you dont already know, you dont have to complete a whole season in 1 session to be able to unlock cars, or tracks.

If you quite the game or go to the main menu, then next time you start the session you will start where you was last time. I think only exception is arcade mode, where you have to finish all 3 races in 1 session.

 

[MS7XWDC]

Well, FC's handling is FAR better than GRID's. I hope CM get it & use a FFB wheel with HIGH FFB setting. there is almost no sensation of "wobble" or "odd cornering" that I felt n GRID.
You feel that you are naturally steering , oversteering, losing grip / the back end.
Surely an F1 car will feel different from the 430, but FC has got the FFB / Handling part SPOT ON !!

drive 10 laps in GRID, then 10 laps in FC & GRID is blown away ! there is a distinct different feel.
[I only use Logi DFPro with FFB max]

FC is surely an "Arcade Game" with [90%] "Sim" Handling.

it easily is the best feel of "driving" i've felt on PS3 [GT5P included].
the car just feels "right". and fast

using Logi DFPro Wheel
High FFB setting in game / low FFB setting on Wheel itself
Manual gears
Stability / TC / ABS all on lowest setting "1"

the almost not noticeable steering dead zone
the effects of slamming the brakes, instead of the proper push-ease-push a bit harder-ease steady braking is very noticeable & realistic .... you must DRIVE, not smash the gas / brakes & steer

the AI seems VERY realistic / hard ... I'm only on intermediate

honestly, i have not explored all options:
i HATE "locked" tracks / car -- how can i decide to purchase the game if i can only test 1 car on 3 tracks [2 of which I've never seen, the other being Monza] !

I'm looking for a way to edit "Player" to "MS7XWDC", the manual [perhaps a 'rental' booklet] is woeful

things I love:
Cockpit view !
engine sound in cockpit
"shaking a fist" at another driver
AI
Driving sense of Immersion
FFB sense of Immersion

things I hate:

No Car Setups [that I can find]
"teleport" right into a moving car for a race
ALL HUD items on / off together, you cannot pick track map OFF, Lap times ON, it's ALL or Nothing -- BIG FLAW !!
races limited to 7 laps ?? [maybe more get 'unlocked' ?]

 

[Biggles]

OK, these posts are starting to get very confusing: MS7 is now touting FC as having the best FFB ever, while others complain in makes the game virtually unplayable. Rocket Punch hates the AI, while others state it's the best in any console game.

What I am looking for is a good, challenging, (primarily) offline game with a good variety of tracks, good AI & good physics with a wheel. Is this it???

 

[Zedux]

I guess that's why the game got completely opposite reviews - normally 6/10 or 9/10! and believe me for MS7XWDC liking the game is really a tremendous accomplishment from System3!!!

 

[amar212]

and believe me for MS7XWDC liking the game is really a tremendous accomplishment from System3!!!

Yeah, I agree His posts regarding driving games on Neogaf and elswhere always gives me that feeling when I'm not sure would I prefere to cry or to laugh..

 

[Biggles]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedux
and believe me for MS7XWDC liking the game is really a tremendous accomplishment from System3!!!
Yeah, I agree His posts regarding driving games on Neogaf and elswhere always gives me that feeling when I'm not sure would I prefere to cry or to laugh..

I know, that's what's got me even MORE confused - just when I think I've got an idea of where MS7 is coming from, he comes up with this...

 

[MS7XWDC]

MS7 is now touting FC as having the best FFB ever,

What I am looking for is a good, challenging, (primarily) offline game with a good variety of tracks, good AI & good physics with a wheel. Is this it???

i said:

"it easily is the best feel of "driving" i've felt on PS3 [GT5P included].
the car just feels "right". and fast"

the physics are the best I've felt.

yes, the FFB is great. the overall "feel" like you are driving a REAL car is there.
Buy it - NOW.

why this is "confusing" to you, i don't understand.
I didn't really feel that F1CE, Motorstorm, Need 4 Speed, NASCAR, GT5P, GRID actually made me feel like I was actually driving a car.

Ferrari Challenge does. and every time I play it, I love it more.

 

[Kryz11]

I decided to skip this game. Wait till it goes 40 or below $$$.
Recently I just had so much fun with GT5P, I just realized I do not really need other racing games to crunch the thirst

 

[Speedster502]

Renting this at the moment, I can say that I'm fairly impressed. Although want more cars to drive, the 355 and the F430 aren't enough!

 

[Biggles]

the physics are the best I've felt.

yes, the FFB is great. the overall "feel" like you are driving a REAL car is there.
Buy it - NOW.

why this is "confusing" to you, i don't understand.
I didn't really feel that F1CE, Motorstorm, Need 4 Speed, NASCAR, GT5P, GRID actually made me feel like I was actually driving a car.

Ferrari Challenge does. and every time I play it, I love it more.

What is confusing is that others (Stotty for eg.), have complained bitterly about the FFB. But I will take this as an enthusiastic endorsement from you. 👍

 

[Biggles]

Double post

 

[MS7XWDC]

What is confusing is that others (Stotty for eg.), have complained bitterly about the FFB. But I will take this as an enthusiastic endorsement from you. 👍

i get it now, that makes more sense .... i'll read through to see what wheel they have. the FFB feels great on my Logi DFPro

FC with the G25...

There are 2 wheel options, each with 3 settings:

Sensitivity: High/Medium/Low - which, I assume, is the steering ratio
FF Strength: High/Medium/Low - self explanatory

Curently I'm using...
Medium sensitivity as high makes the car VERY twitchy in a straight line - small steering inputs result in large changes in direction. I'll try low, but suspect it will make applying enough oppostie lock a bit of a challenge.

High FF as the 2 lower settings feel to have an increasingly big deadzone around straight ahead. By deadzone I mean an area with no resistance at all.

In high FF, the FF effect is almost instantaneous when you turn the wheel. However, the amount you need to turn the wheel before the FF kicks in increases as you lower this setting... which is weird as I would have thought this should remain constant and only the strength of the feedback reduce... in the lower settings I have real problems keeping the car in a straight line.

Anyhow, this can effect you in the following way... you're flying up the straight towards the braking zone and you need to change your line minutely... you turn the wheel very slightly and get no response (no turn and no FF)... you turn the wheel a tiny bit more, start to turn but then the FF kicks back strongly, sending you in the opposite direction... of course you try to correct this and end up weaving about... which under brakes isn't a good idea in FC as you'll probably spin off.

The steering needs to be a touch more linear in it's response and weighting away from perfectly straight - GT5P get's this bit right, but lacks the depth of feel the FF effects in FC have. And the overall weighting, whilst manageable 90% of the time, would benefit from being slightly lighter as this would enable opposite lock to be applied a bit more quickly.

OK, i found what he said, and I probably agree with him, as he's really gone 'in depth'.
the FFB could be improved a bit, I guess, as per his comments..
I guess I'm comparing it to GRID's horrible FFB and Car Handling overall.

the FFB tweaks aside, I love FC.

 

[Rocket Punch]

The FFB in FC, while not bad, can be improved. In certain scenarios, like the oval turns in Homestead or Cali, when you are holding the corner as the front end struggle for grip, the FFB did a very good job at translating that; but in other scenarios the FFB feels dead.

 

[Speedster502]

Anyone recommend the quickest way to gain cars effectively? Which mode should I play?

 

[Rocket Punch]

Anyone recommend the quickest way to gain cars effectively? Which mode should I play?

Trophy Mode and Arcade Mode.

 

[myke6699]

You have to download the pdf version of the magazine but the review is well written. Although not entirely favorable, the reviewer applauds System 3 decision to make FC into a full fledge sim instead if taking the easy and more profitable route like CM did with GRID:

AutoSimSport

Underneath the pic, you have the option of downloading different compression of the magazine (in pdf).

 

[TheMoose]

What is the deal with online play? I try to go online with the FXX or F333 & I always end up in a F430 challenge car.
Is the 430 the only car you can race online?

I can create a room with the FXX but when I try to join a room all I get is the 430