Oh, oh, oh, I'm making a Ludicrous Claim®! Read the first post!

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Scaff
Please do not take this the wrong way, but we have a standard policy here at GT Planet that anyone claiming to own a car considered 'unusual' will be asked to provide proof of ownership.

We even have a thread dedicated to it......

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61433&page=85


....in which it would be greatly appreciated you provide proof.

As I said this is not me stating you don't own the car, simply asking you to show us that you do. We are very wary of these kind of claims, as the thread in question and the fact we had someone claiming to own a modified R34 this week that turned out to be less than true.

If you own it, then kudos and we would love to see it, if you don't then coming clean now is the wise thing to do.

I look forward to hearing from you in the linked thread.


Regards

Scaff
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To clarify this issue, I will say I owned a turbo Supra and a SC400 although the Supra was not 1000hp. A friend of mine crashed my supra, I still have my SC400. I have been racing with SCCA and Porsche club for over 10 years. I have been in the Supra and racing scene for years. Me and my brother race a Race modified STi in time attack, and gymkana events all over the west coast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXnslNkaR4 - Gymkana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn62IUn6p9c - Super lap battle


I never claimed to have a 1000hp Supra, I just said with todays tuning technology it is possible to make a Supra like that I can show you plenty of links to actual cars of personal friends of mine that have demonstrated said performance; You can PM them and ask if they know me by name, they will tell you.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sh...ckie-My-Winged-Psychiatrist&highlight=blackie

Mr. Ken Henderson is one of if not the most respected member on SupraForums and has a Supra just like I mentioned. 1330hp Racelogic TC, 2 step launch, he doesnt have boost by gear but the car is rediculous. Ken is a old friend of mine, real class act. Just ask him of my level of tuning knowledge of setups.

Another is Dana Westover, Also you can ask him about me I was at his shop almost daily for a couple of years, he knows I know tuning setups.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsKa-AalMXM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzo3J9XmDKE&feature=related

Dave Mashour (DKM) - http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sh...rks-Racing...GT47-80-3.0liter-Dyno&highlight=

Garth Weaver (HIBOOST) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjEk0ZEcEHk

Any of these people have 1000hp+ Supras and all of them know who I am.

There are plenty more...
 
Benjamin S
I have a modded Supra in real life that I track,
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I will say I owned a turbo Supra
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Pics, with GTP in the picture or it didn't happen. :lol:

As Scaff mentioned, the Nismo R34 is still fresh in our memory, it was terrible. 👍

Or I own and track a 1100hp Celica, or actually, to clarify, owned a Celica. :dopey:
 
Dennisch
Pics, with GTP in the picture or it didn't happen. :lol:

As Scaff mentioned, the Nismo R34 is still fresh in our memory, it was terrible. 👍

Or I own and track a 1100hp Celica, or actually, to clarify, owned a Celica. :dopey:
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Pics don't prove a thing, I gave you verifiable members with said cars one of which is the Director for Community Development in California working directly with the mayor, that can vouch for what I said. Which btw, is miles more credible than some stupid pic I could have taken off the internet. Just because you are too lazy to do anything but grouch doesnt mean anything to me. I stated the car I own now is a SC400

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I don't see why you wouldn't believe this guy now, that's a fairly credible story. All we need now is for someone to go and chase up those people, although they will sound a bit stupid asking about it.
 
I can write an credible story too, if I want to make a (semi) ludicrous claim.
Pics don't prove a thing, that's true, that's why we ask for a pic with GTP and the date on it. That proves enough.

And first owning and then owned is (semi) ludicrous. Things like that happened before, with a bad outcome.
 
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No one is saying that the Supra, or many sports cars for that matter, can be built up to 1000bhp. The problem is making them actually raceable, rather than being glorified dragsters.

I had a lot of fun in GT5 adding race parts and tires to a Ford GT - no front downforce unfortunately, and then taking it into the American Championship series against purpose built race cars. Man, is it a handful! Unfortunately I just have a basic understanding of tuning - toeing is one of the foreign concepts for me. But I carefully learned the Indy oval and managed to be able to win most of the races. I can't hold with the pack, and have to nurse turns very carefully, so I have to fly down the straights, and after not doing it for a while, I have to school myself all over again as the best I could do is 4th place. And this is what I'd expect even if such a vehicle was in the hands of a pro race driver.

Sure, lots of people can do well with a car slightly or heavily modified for track racing, or semi-pro stuff like the SCCA. Maybe this is all you're saying. But otherwise, you just can't add parts to a sports car and turn it into God's own road rocket, taking turns at 100mph, and standing toe to toe with dedicated remanufactured or purpose built racing machines that can cost upwards of millions of dollars.
 
bergauk
Is this proof enough for you guys? http://www.tineye.com/search/f5190c865431f86051e12939200fac8b0e533b3f/

0 results.

http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/benjamite717/?start=all

That too. If he really is lying, then he did a ton of work to make it look credible.
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Please be careful with how you phrase things, a big difference exists between accusing someone of lying and asking them to provide proof.

The first (lying) presupposes that they are being misleading, the other doesn't and that (rather significant) difference is very important to this thread and how members discuss matters with each other.

You will notice that none of my posts presuppose anything about this matter and for the record I personally think that Benjamin S is being honest about this matter. However it would have been remiss, given the standard site policy, not to ask the question.


Scaff
 
Seems legit, he provided references in order to back up his post, his posting style (and his current car) denotes someone of older age too, rather than a kid trying to be popular.
 
CMvan46
A new one from the "How Much Can You Bench Press" thread.



cullenand
Age: 15 Height: 6'1". Weight: 245. Max Bench: 375
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Lol, yeah, I remember guys from my highschool football teams getting no higher than 220-230 when they had an ongoing contest going one year. Another 150 isn't totally out of the realm of possibility, but that would have to be one heck of a rare 15 year old.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
A video, though it's not that bad of a claim.
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Do you know what percentage of the male population can bench press 400 lbs? Not many.

According to strength standards tables a person weighing 242 and being an advanced weight lifter will bench 316 and elite athletes will bench 396.
That includes all ages, body builders, and athletes.

And yes video proof. Others in the thread do submit them as proof.

I study Kinesiology (Human Kinetics) at university and I can tell you at 15 I'm fairly certain that's near impossible...

If he proves it though he is very near elite status and that's one heck of a special athlete we have here on our forums.
 
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Scaff
Please be careful with how you phrase things, a big difference exists between accusing someone of lying and asking them to provide proof.

The first (lying) presupposes that they are being misleading, the other doesn't and that (rather significant) difference is very important to this thread and how members discuss matters with each other.

You will notice that none of my posts presuppose anything about this matter and for the record I personally think that Benjamin S is being honest about this matter. However it would have been remiss, given the standard site policy, not to ask the question.


Scaff
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If you think that was rude, you are sorely mistaken. It was a simple statement of facts.
 
CMvan46
Do you know what percentage of the male population can bench press 400 lbs? Not many.
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If everybody did strength training then it would be a good sized percentage.

CMvan46
If he proves it though he is very near elite status and that's one heck of a special athlete we have here on our forums.
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It would just mean that he took his strength training seriously from an early age probably with some above average genetics.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
If everybody did strength training then it would be a good sized percentage.
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Even amongst competition your talking about the top end of the spectrum.

http://www.goheavy.net/Records/view...roupguid=99b42b99-6598-4e8f-aa4c-3998a63ce2c1

Yah, there are people listed up beyond 400lbs, and I think I even saw 500lbs, but that's the top percent guys in the competition, in the highest weight classes (commonly the 275+ class, but the number varies a bit for different age groups). That's why CMvan46 and I both have said it would be possible but it would have to be a rare 15 year old/athelete. Even amongst the serious atheletes it's a pretty high weight.

Here, records for Teen I (14-15) Men Bench Press Only: http://www.goheavy.net/Records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=7e039f50-765b-4374-a5a9-b3b44aeff5f6
The closest records listed a lift of 330lbs lift in the 182 weight class, and that was almost a decade ago (2003). In the 231 weight class, a lift of 270, back in 1998. the higher weight classes beyond that haven't even had a record set yet.
 
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That's BS. Theres a guy on our football team at our school with the identical specs (he's a bit shorter, and REALLY fat.). His 1 rep max is 260. Mine was 190. 375 is TOTAL BS. Remember, he's only 15.
 
bergauk
Is this proof enough for you guys? http://www.tineye.com/search/f5190c865431f86051e12939200fac8b0e533b3f/

0 results.

http://s436.photobucket.com/albums/qq89/benjamite717/?start=all

That too. If he really is lying, then he did a ton of work to make it look credible.
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My faveorite way to weed out fakes is to ask for time-stamps with username and website on a piece of paper, then leaving said paper on the car and taking a photo of it isn't that hard. Hell, I included the GTplanet chatbox into my photo once to show off my early copy of GT5.
 
Thrustmaster claiming they have a shifter? That's pretty hard to believe eh? Hahahaa

That was funny, you got to admit.
 
Benjamin S
Just because you are too lazy to do anything but grouch doesnt mean anything to me. I stated the car I own now is a SC400
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Nice...another grouchy Lexus owner! Haven't had enough of those in my lifetime. Welcome to the forum, and don't forget the piece of paper stating it's yours if asked (although it's not necessarily needed for an SC 400).

Unless yours was the super-rare Pebble Beach Edition with the Flux Capacitor and matching Coach luggage.
 

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