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[OwensRacing]

I'm in tonight

 

[BrandonW77]

Some of us are in the ORCA lounge, feel free to join.

 

[Torzilla]

Me and dsg just barely touched fenders a couple times at monaco tonght, just wanted to apologize and say my bad, something like that will never happen during a race.

 

[dsgerbc]

^Meh, don't sweat it, I gave out my annual doze of taps today too .
I don't get this car at all. I can't get the thing to turn even with abs at zero and 0-10 BB. And braking into almost complete stop in a particular piece of pavement in the middle of the corner so that I can floor it from there feels very unnatural to me.

 

[carracerptp]

^Meh, don't sweat it, I gave out my annual doze of taps today too .
I don't get this car at all. I can't get the thing to turn even with abs at zero and 0-10 BB. And braking into almost complete stop in a particular piece of pavement in the middle of the corner so that I can floor it from there feels very unnatural to me.

It has terrible turn-in... Anyone looked at the:
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07
It handles so much better and really is a fun car.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Me and dsg just barely touched fenders a couple times at monaco tonght, just wanted to apologize and say my bad, something like that will never happen during a race.

If you barely touched fenders at Monaco, you should be proud of yourselves.

 

[BrandonW77]

If you barely touched fenders at Monaco, you should be proud of yourselves.

I think Zilla was being sarcastic.

It's interesting to see people having issues with the turn-in of the TC. For whatever reason I have no problem with understeer or oversteer with this car, I simply point it where I want it to go and that's exactly where it goes. Especially on the racing hard tires I was running last night, I was even able to make adjustments to my line in the middle of a turn to make room for a car on the inside. On the harder tires this would have resulted in me pushing wide into the grass but it was a piece of cake on the RH compound and allowed both of us to get through the turn unscathed.....that's the kind of racing I want to see. 👍


On a different note, would any of you be interested in running a 200 mile Indy Lights race at IMS in the FGT, perhaps a week from this Friday? Owens and I ran a full length Indy 500 last year and it was pretty dang cool. My local news has been filled with Indy 500 stuff lately and I'm getting quite pumped for the race, would like to do one of our own. 👍

It would be tuning prohibited, but in order to avoid pegging the rev limiter half way down the straight the cars need to have the power dialed back quite a bit, thus the Indy Lights theme. This also makes the car a little easier to drive and should make for better racing. It would feature a parade lap and full damage on racing tires (likely the compound of your choosing, pending more testing). We could do qualifying during the week where everybody gets a 4 lap run and we take the average of the 2nd and 3rd lap, then do a manual line up on race day. 200 miles would be 80 laps and take a little over an hour to run.

Thoughts?

 

[Naptown25rs]

^^^

Maybe, depending on when you do it.

 

[Torzilla]

Id give it a shot, Im horrible with the FGT though

Id also like to say that I am never sarcastic and I dont know how anyone could think something like that. Can we do a 500 lap demolition race with jumps over fire and banked ice turns?

I think Zilla was being sarcastic.

It's interesting to see people having issues with the turn-in of the TC. For whatever reason I have no problem with understeer or oversteer with this car, I simply point it where I want it to go and that's exactly where it goes. Especially on the racing hard tires I was running last night, I was even able to make adjustments to my line in the middle of a turn to make room for a car on the inside. On the harder tires this would have resulted in me pushing wide into the grass but it was a piece of cake on the RH compound and allowed both of us to get through the turn unscathed.....that's the kind of racing I want to see. 👍


On a different note, would any of you be interested in running a 200 mile Indy Lights race at IMS in the FGT, perhaps a week from this Friday? Owens and I ran a full length Indy 500 last year and it was pretty dang cool. My local news has been filled with Indy 500 stuff lately and I'm getting quite pumped for the race, would like to do one of our own. 👍

It would be tuning prohibited, but in order to avoid pegging the rev limiter half way down the straight the cars need to have the power dialed back quite a bit, thus the Indy Lights theme. This also makes the car a little easier to drive and should make for better racing. It would feature a parade lap and full damage on racing tires (likely the compound of your choosing, pending more testing). We could do qualifying during the week where everybody gets a 4 lap run and we take the average of the 2nd and 3rd lap, then do a manual line up on race day. 200 miles would be 80 laps and take a little over an hour to run.

Thoughts?

 

[BrandonW77]

^^^

Maybe, depending on when you do it.

I was thinking a week from this Friday, maybe start up around 8 or 8:30pm EDT. That gives us a week and a half to get some practicing done and qualifying. Nothing formal, just for fun. It's a pretty intense experience.

Id give it a shot, Im horrible with the FGT though

Id also like to say that I am never sarcastic and I dont know how anyone could think something like that. Can we do a 500 lap demolition race with jumps over fire and banked ice turns?

You sir, crack me up!!
I'll check to see what I have my FGT dialed back to, I had to turn the power down quite a bit before I could get around the track without bouncing off the limiter. It made the car easier to drive, so hopefully even people who aren't very experience with the FGT will be able to do ok and have fun. 👍

 

[LancerEvo7]

I think Zilla was being sarcastic.

It was before 6 am. I was too asleep to recognize sarcasm

Depending on the time, I'd be interested in the lights race.

I'm the same as you with the Impreza.

 

[carracerptp]

On a different note, would any of you be interested in running a 200 mile Indy Lights race at IMS in the FGT, perhaps a week from this Friday?

That would be great, I love the FGT on ovals in the new cockpit view 👍

 

[TrackBound7]

I am interested in the Indy race. Even with full power you can take the FGT wide open around Indy, so in terms of being able to handle the car, everyone should be okay. The biggest thing is being comfortable in a huge pack with lots of drafting. I think we should all be on the same compound. If everyone is on different compounds I bet the racing gets more spread out with different pit strategies and speed on track.

 

[BrandonW77]

That would be great, I love the FGT on ovals in the new cockpit view 👍

That's one of the reasons I want to do it, we didn't have the awesome cockpit view last year and that really adds an authentic touch to the experience. Our 500 still ranks as one of my most memorable GT5 adventures.

I should be around for some FGT practice/ testing this evening if anyone's interested.

 

[carracerptp]

That's one of the reasons I want to do it, we didn't have the awesome cockpit view last year and that really adds an authentic touch to the experience. Our 500 still ranks as one of my most memorable GT5 adventures.

I should be around for some FGT practice/ testing this evening if anyone's interested.

I will be around from 7 to 9ish so I hope to pop in.

 

[Torzilla]

I will be around from 7 to 9ish so I hope to pop in.

Im around tonight

 

[BrandonW77]

I am interested in the Indy race. Even with full power you can take the FGT wide open around Indy, so in terms of being able to handle the car, everyone should be okay. The biggest thing is being comfortable in a huge pack with lots of drafting. I think we should all be on the same compound. If everyone is on different compounds I bet the racing gets more spread out with different pit strategies and speed on track.

Actually it turns out the tires won't matter. We'll run out of fuel before we'll run out of tire and the hard and soft compounds both turn the same exact lap times when the power is dialed back to 600hp.

I should be on around 8EDT tonight.

 

[carracerptp]

I'm in the ORCA lounge now for FGT and TC racing.

 

[BrandonW77]

Turns out I can't make it but feel free to practice. I know I'll be around tomorrow night though.

 

[BrandonW77]

Ugh, what a week! I'm in my final 2 weeks at my job, they're trying to get as much out of me as they can before I leave and I also began training my replacement today. Anyway, I'm going to try to hop in the lounge in about 30 if anybody's up for some testing.

EDIT: Lounge is open
DOUBLE EDIT:Lounge is closed.

 

[BrandonW77]

So, we did a bit of testing with the neutered FGT last night around Indy Speedway. We ended up downgrading to Sports Hard tires to try to add a little liveliness to the handling, it helped a little bit. With the car down on power this much it's VERY easy to get around the track and we even went 3-wide through a couple turns. That's good in the sense that it will lessen the likelihood of crashes but it also takes away some of the intensity when you have basically no chance of wrecking.

The draft is so ridiculous that it's a real crap-shoot who's going to win, the prevailing strategy is to just stay close through the race and whoever gets the best draft off of turn 4 will be the winner. Not terribly exciting and no real satisfaction in a victory of that nature. But there were only 3 of us and the most we did was 14 laps so not a lot of chances to mix things up. With a larger field, longer race and multiple pitstops it would be a bit more exciting.

If we can get a good group together tonight we can try doing a 50 lap race to see if that makes things a little more interesting. I should probably be free after 8pm EDT tonight if anyone's interested.

 

[Torzilla]

Im down for a 50 lap race tonight, this car is impossible for me to handle at full power but at 600hp it handles great. Im wondering if it would be possible to turn up the top speed a little though I think we can push this thing into 240mph in the draft.

So, we did a bit of testing with the neutered FGT last night around Indy Speedway. We ended up downgrading to Sports Hard tires to try to add a little liveliness to the handling, it helped a little bit. With the car down on power this much it's VERY easy to get around the track and we even went 3-wide through a couple turns. That's good in the sense that it will lessen the likelihood of crashes but it also takes away some of the intensity when you have basically no chance of wrecking.

The draft is so ridiculous that it's a real crap-shoot who's going to win, the prevailing strategy is to just stay close through the race and whoever gets the best draft off of turn 4 will be the winner. Not terribly exciting and no real satisfaction in a victory of that nature. But there were only 3 of us and the most we did was 14 laps so not a lot of chances to mix things up. With a larger field, longer race and multiple pitstops it would be a bit more exciting.

If we can get a good group together tonight we can try doing a 50 lap race to see if that makes things a little more interesting. I should probably be free after 8pm EDT tonight if anyone's interested.

 

[carracerptp]

So, we did a bit of testing with the neutered FGT last night around Indy Speedway. We ended up downgrading to Sports Hard tires to try to add a little liveliness to the handling, it helped a little bit. With the car down on power this much it's VERY easy to get around the track and we even went 3-wide through a couple turns. That's good in the sense that it will lessen the likelihood of crashes but it also takes away some of the intensity when you have basically no chance of wrecking.

The draft is so ridiculous that it's a real crap-shoot who's going to win, the prevailing strategy is to just stay close through the race and whoever gets the best draft off of turn 4 will be the winner. Not terribly exciting and no real satisfaction in a victory of that nature. But there were only 3 of us and the most we did was 14 laps so not a lot of chances to mix things up. With a larger field, longer race and multiple pitstops it would be a bit more exciting.

If we can get a good group together tonight we can try doing a 50 lap race to see if that makes things a little more interesting. I should probably be free after 8pm EDT tonight if anyone's interested.

The SH tires still give plenty of grip.
I did about 5 laps on CH tires and it was still drivable.

I should be around tonight for some more races. I will turn on my map so I can see the other cars around me this time.

 

[BrandonW77]

Im wondering if it would be possible to turn up the top speed a little though I think we can push this thing into 240mph in the draft.

I might be able to add just a touch of power, I just wanted to make sure we weren't constantly bouncing off the rev-limiter. We ran at 611hp last night (weird room restrictions) and the only time I hit the limiter was when I got a "double-draft" (slingshot past one car, into another car's draft, then slingshot past them). To a degree, I think hitting the limiter when you have a super-draft could be a bit of a good thing as it will limit the exaggerated effect of the slipstream a little.

 

[Torzilla]

I might be able to add just a touch of power, I just wanted to make sure we weren't constantly bouncing off the rev-limiter. We ran at 611hp last night (weird room restrictions) and the only time I hit the limiter was when I got a "double-draft" (slingshot past one car, into another car's draft, then slingshot past them). To a degree, I think hitting the limiter when you have a super-draft could be a bit of a good thing as it will limit the exaggerated effect of the slipstream a little.

I was thinking more of moving the trans top speed up and leaving the hp at 600hp, but I trust your judement so do what ever you want.

 

[BrandonW77]

I was thinking more of moving the trans top speed up and leaving the hp at 600hp, but I trust your judement so do what ever you want.

But we can't adjust the trans with "tuning prohibited" and I'm trying to run the car in totally stock form.

 

[dsgerbc]

Or you could limit the HP a bit so that there's not rev-limiter bouncing. This is oval Indy you're talking about, not the roadcourse, right?

 

[BrandonW77]

Or you could limit the HP a bit so that there's not rev-limiter bouncing. This is oval Indy you're talking about, not the roadcourse, right?

Oval, yes. I limited the HP to 611 last night to keep us from bouncing off the limiter and it worked unless we had the super-double-draft and then we just hit it for a second after we went zooming by the draftee. We could probably go up to around 630hp and stay out of the limiter.

 

[Torzilla]

But we can't adjust the trans with "tuning prohibited" and I'm trying to run the car in totally stock form.

Im totally cool with running any way you want, you know alot more about this than I do and you always seem to make good decisions. I did have a problem getting my car into a "tuning prohibited" race the other day, I checked everyting to make sure it was set to default and it still gave me trouble. I hope this will not be a problem tonight but any suggestions to something I may have overlooked would be appreciated. For the record, areo, suspention, brakes, and trans were all set to default.

 

[TrackBound7]

If I can get on I would be up for a race tonight. It has been a crazy week here too, not sure I will get a chance...hopeful though.