ORS | GT Championship Season 1
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MEDIUMS please.
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I'm fine on hards will just get swamped off the line and held up what's a good med or hard lap done no testing..
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Visitors turned up tonight will start from rear grid will def race tomorrow.
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ORS GT | Race 7 | Stewards Review Part 2
Incidents to report in Round 7 at GVE(R).
Incident for investigation: DRZ – Hatfield / Asuka611 - Race 2.
Collision incident between Hatfield / Asuka611 exiting the tunnel and braking for the tight right hander directly after the tunnel, ultimately resulting in damage to Hatfield’s car & resultant loss of position.
Asuka brakes latter on the approach to the tight right hand turn out of the tunnel attempting to overtake on the inside of a leading Hatfield. Asuka moves over to the inside part of the track immediately after the tunnel placing the right front and rear tyres on the grass island. Due to a loss of grip and change in elevation causes Asuka not to be able to wash off additional speed to be able to negotiate the turn without running wide. Asuka's car is rotated left into Hatfield’s car making contact due to the change in elevation and varying grip levels. This causes minor front right damage to Hatfield’s car. At the same time Oni braking on the outside of Hatfield makes contact with the left hand rear of Hatfields car as it gets pushed left from the contact with Asuka causing minor left hand rear damage.
Immediately after the incident, Asuka concedes the gained position back to Hatfield at the second part of the RH/LH complex, however due to the damage at sustained, Hatfield is not able to control the car and is not able to maintain race pace quickly losing his position to Asuka at the uphill left hand sweeper. This ultimately concludes with Hatfield having to pit and losing several positions.
Conclusions:
Asuka is issued with an advisory caution in this instance. Although this is a racing incident it’s important to ensure that drivers are not performing overly ambitious overtaking maneuverers that leave little margin for error.
Incident 2 for investigation: Redness/mrtaital/Cactass – Race 1.
This one of the first situations where I’ve had to investigate an incident of lapped traffic creating an incident for cars on the lead lap that has directly altered the potential outcome of a podium position.
Specially, traffic about to be lapped (mrtatial/Cactass) where found to be failing to give way to a P1 placed vehicle (Redness) on the lead lap, resulting in the P1 vehicle in being held up. This in turn allowed for closure of gap between P1 and P2 (TTR_Toivo). In addition a collision incident occurred between the current P1 vehicle (Redness) and P8 vehicle (Cactass) at the exit of the tunnel resulting in a loss of position for the P1 vehicle to P2 vehicle.
Redness was in P1 from the start of the race as we fast forward to L13 he remains in P1 with Toivo in P2 some 2.5 second behind. Red has lapped traffic ahead of him being P8 (Cactass),P9 (mrtaital) and P10 (vh_mik). vh_mik realising that he is about to be lapped by the lead car in P1 gives way to Redness’s advancing position.
As we go into L14 Toivo is 1.5 seconds behind Redness and gaining. Coming out of the tunnel into the tight RH & LH complex, Redness is not technically in a position to pass P8 (Cactass or P9 (mrtaital) who are locked in their own battle for respective positions – however this does present the first opportunity for P8 & P9 to give way to the oncoming P1 driver. Despite P1 technically being held up at this point P2 (Toivo) is also managing lapped traffic ahead (GTP_Vanquish) who splits P1 and P2.
As we go into L15 the gap between P1 & P2 the gap is down to .8. Out of the tunnel for the tight LH & RH complex GTP_Vanquish gives way to P2 driver Toivo. At this point P1 one driver has not been given a clear path past P9 driver mrtaital and is denied an outside pass at the LH turn of the RH / LH complex after the tunnel.
Down the main straight crossing from L15 into L16 P9 driver mrtaital gives way to P1/P2 drivers who now only have a car length separating them. P8 driver Cactass remains ahead. Going into the short straight after the T1/T2 complex Cactass has opportunity to let both P1/P2 pass as well however at this point Cactass is unsure of the true position of P1/P2 drivers and believes he is being chased by lapped traffic. Cactass remains ahead of P1 and P2 drivers for the remainder of L16.
Into L17, P8 driver Cactass is still in front P1 and P2 positions. Heading into the tunnel only a car length or two separates P8 , P1 and P2 positions. There is opportunity here for P8 to give way to the P1 /P2 cars however Cactass is still under the impression that he is fighting for a position and as a result takes his normal line for the tight RH out of the tunnel. P1 driver (Redness) looks for the inside pass under brakes.
Red and Cactass brake at virtually the same time, Redness moves over to be partially on the ripple strip and grass on right inside part of the track. Red is at 100% brake at this point. Due to the change in grip at this point and the elevation change between track and the inside grassed part of the track, rotates his car avoidably into the midpoint of Cactass’s car.
At the point of impact the speed differential is only around 6km/h but the acute angle of Redness car at impact (approximately 35 degrees to Cactass direction of travel) causes Cactass car to be pushed wide to the outside of the corner and ultimately into the sand despite the relatively low impact speed.
Redness is off the brakes immediately after impact and back on the throttle to regain directional control and drive out of the incident. Whilst this incident unfolds P2 driver (Toivo) siezes the opportunity of the collision and makes a clean pass on the inside of Redness and Cactass capturing P1 and gains 10 car lengths by the time Redness is back up to race pace. By the time P1 (Toivo) and P2 (Redness) cross into L18, Toivo is 2.2 seconds ahead of Redness and has effectively secured the race win.
Conclusions drawn from this incident.
I am issuing advisory warning not only to mrtaital and Cactass but to the entire field ensure that we are mindful of our obligation to give way to cars that are about to lap their position AND especially so where the lead car(s) are clearly lapping at a faster overall speed.
A slight lift on straights or moving to the outside line of the track during cornering. If you happen to be in the inside line of the track stay on the inside line of the track until drivers have passed you.
Put simply you cannot deliberately drive a defensive line that effectively blocks a lapping car(s).
I have decided not apply point penalties in this instance, however if an incident like this occurs again more acute penalty outcomes may result.
More broadly let’s ensure we are all meeting our race obligations in a gentlemanly manner and showing respect for fellow competitors. There where a number of situations in the Round 7 meet where this could have been better managed. Approach your races with patience and be careful. Be mindful of the limitation of your car, its current condition , your own ability and adjust your approach accordingly.
Sincerely,
Jas
ORS Committee
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ORS GT | RACE 8 | STEWARDS REVIEW
Review notes:
Oni's lap of 2.17.554 on L31 is not legal drifting a little too wide at Pouhon.
Oni's lap of 2.17.891 on L28 is not legal cutting a little inside the white line at T11 after Bruxelles.
Oni's lap of 2.18.169 on L32 is legal and stands as the fastest legal lap of the Round 8 meet.
Sincerely,
Jas
ORS Committee
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- oni_chan
Awesome picture there Jase. Damn the viper looks so good.
Notice to everyone qualifying tonight.
Room will open at 8pm
Scrutineering will start no later than 8:20
Qualifying starts no later than 8:30.
If you miss scrutineering you cannot participate in qualifying and will have to start from the back of the grid.
Notice to everyone qualifying tonight.
Room will open at 8pm
Scrutineering will start no later than 8:20
Qualifying starts no later than 8:30.
If you miss scrutineering you cannot participate in qualifying and will have to start from the back of the grid.
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**** i can make it keep thinking its 8 pm nz time for some reason
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- redness-63
Hey guys
Thank you jason for your incident review of round 7.
If a driver's name does not show up on your driver's list then that driver is a front running driver who is lapping you or a lap down and trying to un lap themselves.
Either way letting them pass is not affecting your position.
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Thank you jason for your incident review of round 7.
If a driver's name does not show up on your driver's list then that driver is a front running driver who is lapping you or a lap down and trying to un lap themselves.
Either way letting them pass is not affecting your position.
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- Lost-on-drugz
That's a blistering time u got there evan. I thought you were on meds. You must have that gt40 dialed in mate. I had to drive the wheels off it to get my time. Good qualify result for you mate.
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- evan1080
Cheers mate, I thought I had 4th in the bag and last lap you got me, well done.
I've finally got this car dialed in, it has excellent mid corner speed,
Trouble is my car is like yours, slow of the mark and we've got Jol behind us who will no doubt rocket pass us. There's also less that a second between 4th an 12th, should make for some close racing.
See you all tonight
Ev
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Yeah i saw jol there tryed putting myself as far ahead as i could of the 4wds hoping i get a good start and get the right hand side doubt it tho can't seem get car off mark as quick as toiv might have to do some tuning to try defend my position off the mark. Unless cough jol bes nice and doesn't rocket pass cough cough. This track favours mid corner speed. My car breaks like a tank entry and mid corner is slow only good point is goodish exit if power down right.
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Good luck on tonights race fellow racers
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Huh i am gng be there.
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Haha yeah i know mate just jesting.
I'll take all the luck i can get being in the slowest straight line car with 35kgs around Fuji. I was actually surprised by my time being that high up on the grid with 35kgs around Fuji. Should be an interesting night provided i can manage the extra tyre wear that weight is giving me.
I'll take all the luck i can get being in the slowest straight line car with 35kgs around Fuji. I was actually surprised by my time being that high up on the grid with 35kgs around Fuji. Should be an interesting night provided i can manage the extra tyre wear that weight is giving me.
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Yeah i was surprised to see it was 55 laps wen cac tokd me lastnight. I was struggking to get under 1.41's when i did my first 10 laps with jol. in qually was struggling get 40.5's then bam. Yeah the weight will be a problem even for fuel consumption. U have your hands full but jas and ure times are close as.. has jas forgoten to take the "boot ride" out lol
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[QUOTE="Lost-on-drugs] has jas forgoten to take the "boot ride" out lol[/QUOTE]
Haha, did I leave the GF in there? Opps! Technically I should have been a bit quicker than Mr Chan, but I just couldn't grab that extra .5 I knew was there. Chan also had a cracker of a lap, given the Vipers a bit limp on top speed and acceleration.
Haha, did I leave the GF in there? Opps! Technically I should have been a bit quicker than Mr Chan, but I just couldn't grab that extra .5 I knew was there. Chan also had a cracker of a lap, given the Vipers a bit limp on top speed and acceleration.
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Haha i was goung to say that jas but didn't incase you might have got offended lol
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Not a good night gave damage over shot just on the brakes pulled out draft way early but still managed to just tap toiv wasn't a hard hit but could tell he had some issues. Completley my fualt so left the race. Car felt a lot different than last night noticed it before the race. Once again sorry toiv.
However during race before this i noticed screen frooze a lil and cars begind made big gap maybe some lag i don't know
However during race before this i noticed screen frooze a lil and cars begind made big gap maybe some lag i don't know
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Was a decent race for myself. I got a PM before the race start from Mick who said 'I am in front of you on the grid and u have 4wd so I will move towards the outside so you can take the inside line' I responded with a k thx and at race start on mediums I immediately went to the inside, however so did Mick haha.
The mixup did not hinder me though as there is enough tarmac to still pass on the inside. I managed to work my way through the hard tire users quite easily and only had one minor slip up. 20 laps on the first medium set and then went to mediums again. Unfortunately I broke a little late and tapped Jol into turn 1 causing myself damage. However fortunately I was only a couple laps into my stint so I pitted for mediums again.
Another 20 laps on the mediums and about 1 lap in 1st place, I then pitted for hards and finished a respectable 8th.
Congrats to MrTaital for the win!!
The mixup did not hinder me though as there is enough tarmac to still pass on the inside. I managed to work my way through the hard tire users quite easily and only had one minor slip up. 20 laps on the first medium set and then went to mediums again. Unfortunately I broke a little late and tapped Jol into turn 1 causing myself damage. However fortunately I was only a couple laps into my stint so I pitted for mediums again.
Another 20 laps on the mediums and about 1 lap in 1st place, I then pitted for hards and finished a respectable 8th.
Congrats to MrTaital for the win!!
