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[Lost-on-drugz]

Heres my G a y 30 year old at least chest table driving setup.. =(

really needa upgrade see the bar that gets in the way of the pedals.... sure thiers afew tenths in my driving if i get a real setup


setup by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

 

[jol_1]

Just watched the race and was very interesting to see how everyone went, wow X3rx3s44 you really know how to drive a damaged car 👍 well and still get some good times. As i thought my tyre wear was very good and about the best of anyone in the race, maybe smooth driving or setup im not sure.

Anyway good race everyone and a pitty some of the fast guys got bad damage otherwise i think it would have been much closer.

Nice setup lost, i would get a saw or hammer and take that lower bar away, maybe move it up higher and to the back.

If anyone is interested this was my setup from the race, some credit goes to X3rx3s44 and a bit of oni for some bits i was not sure about.

Aero: 35/60
Ballast: 0
LSD: 7/20/10
RH: -10/-20
SR: 11.8/10.1
DE: 6/3 tnx X3rx3s44
DC: 5/2 " "
ARB: 5/1 " "
Camber: 3.1/0.9 tnx again X3rx3s44, Oni
Toe: 0/0 tnx X3rx3s44 for telling me to much toe would wear the tyres more
Brake: 3/4

 

[willco69]

Heres my G a y 30 year old at least chest table driving setup.. =(

really needa upgrade see the bar that gets in the way of the pedals.... sure thiers afew tenths in my driving if i get a real setup


setup by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Mate, that pic would look so much better with the booz and billy..
Dont worry mate, i had mine strapped to the coffee table before, and i had to sit on the floor and get a sore ass after 30 mins!

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

hah i would cut it mate but its my grand fathers fathers table so yeah dont think they would be pleased ... otherwise would have done it ages ago.

and wilco thanks mate i guess i could have it abit worse and get a sore ass... bugger that illd pack the floor with cushions ha ha

 

[mrtaital]

Will I was on the mediums mate, I pitted lap 3 coz mike went from translucent to solid whilst I was trying to go past him after his demon braking on xerxees, I didn't want to waste my mediums on 50s down, also I lasted some 18 laps on my softs to 10 on mediums

 

[Bennyjohnson]

Did we sort out who did the best time yesterday?

 

[waynz]

i don't mind what gets done about the Hard Vs Medium compound debate... i just hope the parade lap remains ...

It's nice to do something different for a change.

 

[Mic_Col]

i i just hope the parade lap remains ...

It's nice to do something different for a change.

And again 👍

I feel it brought some extra level of realism to the game, we drive around the track and form up. Just like real world. I thought it was really cool.

Oh and another reason for it is when a few guys get black screen of death, after a few seconds it often clears, but that's not enough when a normal start is used. They've been left on the grid, crashed into etc.

So that's another thing that it'll help us work around.

 

[X3rx3s44]

Just watched the race and was very interesting to see how everyone went, wow X3rx3s44 you really know how to drive a damaged car 👍 well and still get some good times. As i thought my tyre wear was very good and about the best of anyone in the race, maybe smooth driving or setup im not sure.

Anyway good race everyone and a pitty some of the fast guys got bad damage otherwise i think it would have been much closer.

If anyone is interested this was my setup from the race, some credit goes to X3rx3s44 and a bit of oni for some bits i was not sure about.

Aero: 35/60
Ballast: 0
LSD: 7/20/10
RH: -10/-20
SR: 11.8/10.1
DE: 6/3 tnx X3rx3s44
DC: 5/2 " "
ARB: 5/1 " "
Camber: 3.1/0.9 tnx again X3rx3s44, Oni
Toe: 0/0 tnx X3rx3s44 for telling me to much toe would wear the tyres more
Brake: 3/4

Cheers mate!
Also, I'm glad the little bits and pieces I told you helped! It is hard to know if you will ultimately be helping or hindering someone because everyone drives differently and likes their car doing slightly different things... I'm very happy it worked out for you though and you had some good speed and great tyre wear which is good to see! 👍

My setup I ran for the race was very similar to Jol's as you would expect considering alot of his is mine, only brakes, springs, ride height and LSD settings were different but can all be found in my setup I posted earlier in this thread.

Now onto my job for the last couple of hours... Going through the replay to find some good shots to post here...
Surprisingly, it was quite and uneventful start to the IS F RM season with very few incidents other than a nudge here or tap there so not alot to get excited about which made finding some shots I think are worthy difficult!

Also, no-one let me know of any important incidents to keep an eye out for so I will take this oppotunity to request in future races if someone has a pass/incident which they feel would make a good shot let me know because I can't watch the replay once per driver (13 times) on the chance that something might pop up so I may miss something critical if I'm not keeping an eye out for it... Anyway, moving on to the photos...

Round 1 (Nurburgring GP/F) Highlight Reel - Photographed by X3rx3s44

On the grid and ready for a start in Round 1 of the ANZ Lexus IS F RM Championship of 2011...

As the leaders head into turn 2 it would appear that everyone made it through turn 1 without incident... Phew! 👍

Bonson abandoned the idea of protecting his tyres and sets about building a gap after making a great move in turn 1, bolting him from 3rd on the grid into the lead! Great work!

Oh dear!... It had to happen to someone... But why me!...
Racing incidents, we all try to avoid them, but sometimes they find you... (No offence intended Waynz!)

Oni gets himelf caught up in a 1080 sandwich... I hope you know that stuffs poison Oni!...

TRAFFIC JAM!... This is what the chicane looks like when everyone catches someone on 17-lap-old Hards at the same time!...

This was a good little mid-race battle I found along the way... Until...

BUGGER!... I don't know what else the say... Tough luck mrtaital...


Well, that's my bit for this week! Hope you liked them, as always, comments/criticisms/suggestions are welcome. If there is something I can do to improve this then let me know!

Cheers, Xerx

PS. Nice Setup Lost! Looks like what I was running whilst I build my rig!... I don't think I could EVER go back now though!

 

[mralexf1]

Woooahh! It's maybe the most organised GT5 Championship I had the chance to see... Completely awesome, congratulations! The sad thing is that I am from Spain

 

[PAWEL17]

Argh!! Any chance of a div 2? Im am so keen for this. I need to join an aussie comp, because i hate waking up at 5-6am to race americans.

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Argh!! Any chance of a div 2? Im am so keen for this. I need to join an aussie comp, because i hate waking up at 5-6am to race americans.

Hey mate oni chan the man to ask im sure he can put u down as a wildcard driver as every week thirs usualy 2 or so that dont make the race or cant connect due to connection issues. ( but ull have to ask him for comfirmation )

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Woooahh! It's maybe the most organised GT5 Championship I had the chance to see... Completely awesome, congratulations! The sad thing is that I am from Spain

Yes mate very organized we this would be oni chans 4th or 5th championship he has run so far 8 races then new comp with new car starts

 

[mrtaital]

Starring in the last 3 photos haha, at the hairpin u can see the dive-bomb that stuffed my race, that spin into the gravel was on 5% left of medium tyres, very satisfied with how I drove after only qualifying and 10 mins of prac using manual gears tho

 

[Mic_Col]

Good pictures Xerxes! I'll see about getting some video footage up. It'll be an interesting contrast to what you said. Clean racing doesn't make for good pictures but I think there'll be some good video. Watching the first few laps where there's a pack of us racing clean and fast is pretty cool.

Argh!! Any chance of a div 2? Im am so keen for this. I need to join an aussie comp, because i hate waking up at 5-6am to race americans.

Yeah I've been through that, surprising how long it takes to truly wake up. And be capable to drive a GT5 race well.

Sign up for the wildcard list. One of last night's racers was a wildcard standing in as someone had other commitments.

 

[spinner]

That was a great race to watch back. So many battles going on throughout the pack and the running order was switching around all the way. Even I ended up in 5th for a brief moment ! Great photos too Xerxes

The parade lap and grid up worked perfectly as far as I could see and as mentioned was a nice touch. I'd vote to keep it , especially now we've got it down pat.

Tyres , either of the new options presented seem good. I'm thinking softs for the slow guys later on , maybe lap 15 onwards ? Or only one set allowed. Dont want to make it too easy.

I would vote for no mics in the room though. The lag issue is the most important aspect to be addressed now and all mics off during race time (or even make the room no mics ?) certainly couldn't hurt and may eliminate the problems all together.

Finally ..... Tokyo reverse is a severe mistress. Damage here I come.

 

[Oniichan]

Woooahh! It's maybe the most organised GT5 Championship I had the chance to see... Completely awesome, congratulations! The sad thing is that I am from Spain

Thanks for the compliment! It took awhile to get here. But i cant take credit as its all about the drivers. Without a great bunch of drivers like these i would be able to organise such a successful bunch of series.

Argh!! Any chance of a div 2? Im am so keen for this. I need to join an aussie comp, because i hate waking up at 5-6am to race americans.

Sorry mate. As much as i'd love to have a 2nd Div running, i just don't have the time to organise one. If i find myself getting more time i will organise a 2nd series for Wednesday nights like i used to do. Good news though. 2 Spots for full time drivers have opened up due to connection issues and hardware issues for 2 drivers. If you are keen send me a PSN request and ill have you run a qualifier to find where you are at.

P.S. Lost mate i had a setup almost identical to that!! then i went and forked out the dosh for my playseat and never regretted it.

Cheers for the photos Xerks. Some great battles going on throughout the field.

In regards to the series change. I believe the majority have already spoken on what they want. I will update the original post to reflect the new rules.

 

[PAWEL17]

Sorry mate. As much as i'd love to have a 2nd Div running, i just don't have the time to organise one. If i find myself getting more time i will organise a 2nd series for Wednesday nights like i used to do. Good news though. 2 Spots for full time drivers have opened up due to connection issues and hardware issues for 2 drivers. If you are keen send me a PSN request and ill have you run a qualifier to find where you are at.

Ok, invite sent. Have you considered, getting someone else to organize it? Just explain what to do. And they could handle it.

 

[mrtaital]

Can I make a comment about the new tyre rules, I feel that the advantage us slower drivers got has now disappeared, example. With me on fresh mediums and xer on what i think were semi worn mediums at the end of the nurb race. He was pulling away close to 1 second a sector.

Last night, lost, Mick, rota and myself had 5 lap races on Tokyo reverse with all of us on racing mediums, first race lost won by 9 seconds.

When you take into account the 10-15 laps bonus we get providing we get no damage on softs. It doesn't seem like we can gain the time lost on mediums to start with.

Just throwing it out there, remember there's an average 2 second per lap advantage per compound.

Perhaps allow more softs for the slow guys but push back their CPS start lap from 5 to 10?

It feels as tho all comments were made by people on hards. This car is not good on hards such as the S15 RM was. So perhaps keep the slow guys rule but enforce one set of hards used per race for the faster guys.

If the tyre rule wasn't there i would've stayed 12th and rota wouldn't be able to keep with the lead pack (brilliant driving rota)

I have always been a fan of the formation lap, but if one spins on that lap can we enforce a rear of grid start as per every category? I was in fits of giggles seeing oni spin on the parade lap.

 

[Bennyjohnson]

Can I make a comment about the new tyre rules, I feel that the advantage us slower drivers got has now disappeared, example. With me on fresh mediums and xer on what i think were semi worn mediums at the end of the nurb race. He was pulling away close to 1 second a sector.

Last night, lost, Mick, rota and myself had 5 lap races on Tokyo reverse with all of us on racing mediums, first race lost won by 9 seconds.

When you take into account the 10-15 laps bonus we get providing we get no damage on softs. It doesn't seem like we can gain the time lost on mediums to start with.

Just throwing it out there, remember there's an average 2 second per lap advantage per compound.

Perhaps allow more softs for the slow guys but push back their CPS start lap from 5 to 10?

It feels as tho all comments were made by people on hards. This car is not good on hards such as the S15 RM was. So perhaps keep the slow guys rule but enforce one set of hards used per race for the faster guys.

If the tyre rule wasn't there i would've stayed 12th and rota wouldn't be able to keep with the lead pack (brilliant driving rota)

I have always been a fan of the formation lap, but if one spins on that lap can we enforce a rear of grid start as per every category? I was in fits of giggles seeing oni spin on the parade lap.

I am happy with whatever the guys that are under the handicap want to do, as long as that does not involve the hard tyre. Im happy if you guys want to be on racing softs for the whole race, you'll have to stop one more time than us most likely which will go part ways to making the field even.

I do feel that one set of softs may not give the guys at the back a proper chance to catch up. Obviously, we don't want them to be absolutely dominating, but it would be nice if they had a chance to race the guys at the front. I like my 3 way rule, but as I said, as long as the guys at the back are happy. theres no problems from my end.

EDIT: Also, it's important to get a decision sorted quickly. Whether the change Oni has put up now sticks or whether its altered, it needs to be sorted so that we can start practising. It's not a big deal for the quick guys, we're gonna be on the medium tyre regardless, but the slower guys need a decision quickly and easily.

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

did some testing last night and man what a tight track for damage.. oni mate you usually for those city circuits u run light damage is this going to be the case for this track?

 

[X3rx3s44]

Oni,
I tend to agree with mrtaital on the tyre issue. I think if we are going to run Mediums all race then the slower guys need to have access to Softs all race (except the first 5 laps) as I think everyone must start on the same tyre to avoid incidents where guys on softer rubber go in to hot behind people on harder rubber, this would cause big issues in the early laps but once we get a bit of field spread I think this problem would be minimised but they need the Softs in all other laps in an attempt to keep the race close and fair for everyone.

My general opinion is that;
FAST drivers run Mediums ONLY!
SLOWER drivers run Mediums (Lap 1-5) then have access to Softs from then onwards!

I also feel that we may need to be less lenient with how we determine who runs what compound. For example, I qualified almost .3 faster than anyone so take my lap as the baseline, we know from testing there is 2-2.5 seconds per lap difference in the Softs and Mediums so in theory, if I ran a 1:30.763 on Softs at Fuji, I should be able to do a 1:32.763 (AT BEST!) on Mediums.
So therefore, ANYONE who qualified with a time sub-33 should be required to run Mediums (plus Willco too perhaps...)! Otherwise, the mid-field drivers will dominate the series as neither the faster guys on Medium tyres nor the slower guys on Soft tyres will be able to keep pace with the mid-fielders on Softs...
Just my opinion, added to the fact that the majority of those in the 32-33 bracket are capable of much more if they spent as much time testing as the front-runners like myself for example, and now with everyones cards on the table in terms of setup, they cannot blame a lack of time to setup the car on not matching our pace... 👍

Cheers, Xerx

EDIT:
As a perfect example of this, look at Jol in Race 1, he ONLY ran Mediums so did not touch the Soft tyre and is one of the "mid-fielders" I am referring to and look at his dominance! He was not even pushing the car hard as is evidenced by the amazing tyre wear he was able to maintain throughout the race! So I feel if two tyre categories are established we MUST be less lenient as anyone who ran sub-33 in the qualifier would dominate the series with the ability to run the Softer rubber!

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

who qualified with a time sub-33 should be required to run Mediums[/B]! Otherwise, the mid-field drivers will dominate the series as neither the faster guys on Medium tyres nor the slower guys on Soft tyres will be able to keep pace with the mid-fielders on Softs...
Just my opinion, added to the fact that the majority of those in the 32-33 bracket are capable of much more if they spent as much time testing as the front-runners like myself for example, and now with everyones cards on the table in terms of setup, they cannot blame a lack of time to setup the car on not matching our pace... 👍

Cheers, Xerx

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

 

[MikeekiM]

Will I was on the mediums mate, I pitted lap 3 coz mike went from translucent to solid whilst I was trying to go past him after his demon braking on xerxees, I didn't want to waste my mediums on 50s down, also I lasted some 18 laps on my softs to 10 on mediums

Ahhh, I wondered who hit me at the start. Yeah sometimes if you brake really late the game must think you're going to crash so it turns you translucent. So if it happens again, remember that it will only be for a couple of seconds, not like a penalty. Hopefully next time I won't be so unlucky with that and Xerxs lag spike. Qualified 4th, finished last. 👎

 

[Oniichan]

Drivers names which are in blue are handicap drivers. If we happen to see someone falling down the pack due to the handicap i will look at giving them a handicap to keep them on pace.

 

[X3rx3s44]

Drivers names which are in blue are handicap drivers. If we happen to see someone falling down the pack due to the handicap i will look at giving them a handicap to keep them on pace.

Good idea to highlight them mate! 👍 Now there can be no confusion.
I am still not sure that one set of Soft tyres per race will be enough to keep them close but it is a good start, I honestly think they should have Softs available from lap 5 onwards but ultimately it's not my decision to make!
Also, I understand it may take away from the pit strategy a bit if Softs became infinitely available at lap 5, although because the gap in compounds is only M -> S it will not be as important to pit as soon as possible as it was for the S15s running H -> S.

Cheers, Xerx

PS. Welcome to GTP MikeekiM! 👍

 

[willco69]

Clap clap for the handicap!

 

[Rotamasta7]

hahaha what? mrtaital is quicker than me for sure and he is highlighted? :S

Im all up for fairness haha but if im running same tyre compound regs as xerx and lost im just going to be last every race, im willing to give it a go, but yeah i think that will be the result... i think maybe the 3 different categories may have to be tested?

Im up for anything, and obviously not in this series to win as thats not going to happen haha i enjoy running in the series where ever I place during the race (no im not trying to rap my comment out like 50 cent) but yeah i think we need to do some more testing or see how the next race goes and sort it out from there

 

[Bennyjohnson]

hahaha what? mrtaital is quicker than me for sure and he is highlighted? :S

Im all up for fairness haha but if im running same tyre compound regs as xerx and lost im just going to be last every race, im willing to give it a go, but yeah i think that will be the result... i think maybe the 3 different categories may have to be tested?

Im up for anything, and obviously not in this series to win as thats not going to happen haha i enjoy running in the series where ever I place during the race (no im not trying to rap my comment out like 50 cent) but yeah i think we need to do some more testing or see how the next race goes and sort it out from there

Yeah, my thoughts exactly mate. Rota is using a DS3, for him not to be on some sort of advantageous side of a handicap is pretty strange. Rota needs some kind of advantage to compete with the guys at the front.

As I said, I think we should scrap it completely, because theres always going to be good racing wherever you are up or down the field, but if we are trying to even up the field it's not going to be great giving the DS3 guys no handicap at all.

 

[willco69]

I reckon we should give it a go for this race and see how we go....