Osama Bin Laden is dead.

Theres deffinently something fishy about this , theres only one picture of him dead and it looks photoshoped then they dumped his body at sea ??? , why would you do that , and the guy who killed him isnt taking credit, if i killed him i'd want every one to know , and then when they showed the rooms in the house with blood in them there wernt any bodys ??? whered they go, there was a 40 minute fire fight.
As has been explained countless times, bin Laden's body was buried at sea to prevent his grave from becoming a shine to martyrdom.

It's also unlikely the SEALs actually know whose bullet killed bin Laden. They're Special Forces in a war zone, not bounty hunters in the Wild West. They're highly professional; I guarantee you they saw the raid as nothing more than another counter-terrorist operation that just happened to have a wanted terrorist at the end of it. When the teams were chosen, glory-seekers and rock stars would have been politely declined because they would simply compromise the entire operation with their desire to be the man who killed bin Laden. They're not in the business of taking credit. And if they ever did, they and their families would never be safe for as long as they lived. Anyone who came forward claiming credit for killing bin Laden would be al'Qaeda's first target in reprisal attacks.
 
Someone mentioned that before, though there was a PC game that was daily updated because of the current wars. In that PC game, they would use news paper articles to reenact fire fights or missions.
 
I seem to recall reading somewhere that there were plans to include re-enactments of famous (and infamous) military operations - like the Iranian embassy raid - into a CALL OF DUTY game at some point. If it were to go ahead, it's likely this operation would be included first and foremost.

There's also reports that Hollywood is already planning to make a film version of the event. Kathryn Bigelow (THE HURT LOCKER) was apparently attached to a project called "Kill Bin Laden" (very imaginitive) and focusing on a failed raid to capture him before this operation went down. Such a film would likely be super-patriotic and hardly representative of what actually happened. And rushed, when it has the potential to be like BLACK HAWK DOWN if they actually stopped and thought about it. It's a shame Quentin Tarantino is tied up with DJANGO UNCHAINED; I think he's one of the few directors who could keep such a film true whilst staying interesting and not at all rushed.

I've also heard speculation that bin Laden's death could make CAPTAIN AMERICA the biggest film of the summer.
 
I was surprised here in Europe on the reactions in debates about this.

They looked at the communication of the US and analysed it on what it could mean, not taking any of it as the truth. (I had the same approach).

Even further a Muslim stated that the way the service was described seemed more like irony and strongly weakened the message. He stated "A message like: We killed Bin Laden and the body is in a place where no-one will find it." would have been more correct. For him this was a terrorist that was taken out and he had not religious feelings about that.

Finally my personal opinion: Any death is regrettable, but some are needed for the greater good. Very unclear in this situation if a better way of handling could have been done.
 
It's not something you can acquire the rights to. If there was a book written about the raid - for example, an account from the leader of DEVGRU - then they could acquire the rights to it. As it is, it's currently open season; any studio can make a film about it, and if more than do it, there won't be a copyright infringement or anything. Kathryn Bigelow (the director of THE HURT LOCKER) and Mark Boal (the writer) have a headstart on everyone else because they were already planning a bin Laden film. Any film about the raid would likely recount the whole search for bin Laden, from losing him in Tora Bora, to the failed operation to take him out, the discovery of his courier, the tracking down of his whereabouts and finally the raid on Abbottabad. Bigelow and Boal would already have a substantial amount of that material already.
 
It's not something you can acquire the rights to. If there was a book written about the raid - for example, an account from the leader of DEVGRU - then they could acquire the rights to it. As it is, it's currently open season; any studio can make a film about it, and if more than do it, there won't be a copyright infringement or anything. Kathryn Bigelow (the director of THE HURT LOCKER) and Mark Boal (the writer) have a headstart on everyone else because they were already planning a bin Laden film. Any film about the raid would likely recount the whole search for bin Laden, from losing him in Tora Bora, to the failed operation to take him out, the discovery of his courier, the tracking down of his whereabouts and finally the raid on Abbottabad. Bigelow and Boal would already have a substantial amount of that material already.
I'm just posting what the media keeps blabbing about. Why you always feel the need to write a whole paragraph of a common knowledge in response to 1 simple sentence is beyond me anymore.
 
The first thing I did when I heard that he was dead was watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

The guy says a certain "F" word that you should watch out for. That's also the reason why the video isn't embedded.

I advise you guys to lower the volume.

AWESOME video :lol:

Only thing that bugs me : The little boy flipping his finger, is not American, but my fellow country boy :lol:

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AMERICA **** YEAH!
 
I'm just posting what the media keeps blabbing about. Why you always feel the need to write a whole paragraph of a common knowledge in response to 1 simple sentence is beyond me anymore.
Because you're not making it clear that what your posting is simply a regurgitation of what the media are saying. It comes across as your own personal ideas and opinions rather than someone else's.
 
Because you're not making it clear that what your posting is simply a regurgitation of what the media are saying. It comes across as your own personal ideas and opinions rather than someone else's.
Is it? Or is that just how you prefer to look at it just as in the other thread.
 
It is. It's just the way your posts read. Whatever was said in another thread has nothing to do with this discussion.
 
I do agree that the speech did kind of seem like Obama was taking a lot of credit but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me I'm just taking comfort in knowing that one of the worst terrorists in recent history no longer walks this earth.



Also:
It's amazing what Americans can do when PSN is offline!
It's amazing how I've seen that same quote in this thread about 20 times. :ill:
 
The facts are pretty much;
Obama and the American government + military are telling us they killed Bin Laden.
Supposedly some guy tweeted about the action, so at least there was an attack.
The US claim to have dumped the body at sea and claim 99% certainty of a DNA test of unknown type.

Its more to do with simply being told by a government they have done something, with little to no evidence. Sure, there are reasonable excuses for why certain evidence can't be shown, but there is still a lack of evidence. The typical religion vs. science thinking really.
Going back to the complaints that Bush received after showing pictures of the Husseins, the US was even acussed of war crimes for showing that publicly, but Bush wanted to avoid any question of validity and had to weather international complaints to do so.

President Obama is taking a different approach. Instead of risking war crime allegations he is taking the more diplomatic approach. They have said they are currently determining what they can and will release publicly. I imagine that part of that process is figuring out what won't cause international complaining, or even planning to release the information with the international community as a whole.

Now personally, I feel that to save himself international grief he is creating grief for himself at home. You would think that after years of birther nonsense he would have learned his lesson. I have to believe that, even though I feel he lacks a lot of intelligence or understanding where it matters, he or someone on his staff is politically smart enough to know that they have to show something. No one wants to listen to Donald Trump again. Heck, if he doesn't show any evidence and Trump starts up again I will suggest people vote against Obama simply because he feeds Donald Trump's BS machine.

I wondered how long it was until shows like south park, family guy and american dad make fun of bin lardens death.
South Park, being the only relevant and funny of the three, will be first. Often shows are completed within a week of being aired. They have even bumped scheduled episodes for new relevant now episodes. So, for South Park I say it will be this week or next week's episode.

Haha, Alex Jones, typically, doesn't believe bin Laden is dead. He's beyond the edge. I'm not sure if he actually believes himself, or he does it for the money. Either way, sometimes it's entertaining to read his junk.
Bin Laden is the new birth certificate.

and the guy who killed him isnt taking credit, if i killed him i'd want every one to know , and then when they showed the rooms in the house with blood in them there wernt any bodys ??? whered they go, there was a 40 minute fire fight.
1) SEALS do not talk. Jesse Ventura, after doing movies, books, and being a governor will still not divulge details of his missions as a Navy SEAL. It is their job and duty, not something for fame and glory. On Adam Carolla's podcast he talked about being in Vietnam and what his job was, but never once specifically mentioned a mission.

2) It is against some international treaties to show off the pictures of your dead opponents. Bush ran into that when he showed evidence of killing Hussein's sons.
 
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Well, if this event does lead to a flare-up in al-Qaeda activity they will become that much easier to pick them off. The more active they are, the easier it becomes for the intelligence community to track them down.

There's always someone to make the case "if you bad guy x, then there will be bad guy y to take his place" and while that is a valid arguement, I don't think it's always true and I don't think that will be the case this time. al-Qaeda has been in shambles for a while already and the loss of the number one leader isn't likely to be an event that galvanizes them.

Look, lets put it in an American Football analogy. If you're already losing a game and then your quarterback gets injured, is that really going to make everyone else step up and win? Is a back-up QB going to come off of the bench and rally up everyone to take the game back? Probably not.



Um, Drew Bledsoe/Tom Brady???
Its possible that they could come back stronger, and that is a scary thought.
 
It's amazing what Americans can do when PSN is down.


Sorry. :P

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Obama: "Did someone on the internet just use that PSN joke again?!"
Decorated man: "Just bringing the GTP thread up on the big screen now, sir..."
Clinton: "Oh dear Lord, they did..."
Obama: "....."

Biden: "I don't get it"
 
OMFGDLMFOAHXDKXNMHN

Double Post!!!
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It's a good double post btw. :lol:
 
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Does Biden ever get proper sleep? He sleeps through the president's speeches and looks ready to go to sleep even when he is awake. Everyone else in that picture looks like they are watching the most enthralling thing they have ever seen (well Clinton looks horrified <insert sexist joke here>) and he looks like he is wondering when it will be over so he can take a nap.
 
For the first time ever, I am proud of Obama.

Don't like how he seems to be taking the bulk of the credit for it however.
 
The election is a ways away, I would be real suprised if he could ride this wave for a year and a half.

With the first Republican debate coming up Thursday he had to say it now because all eyes will be on them and half will claim some credit as supporters of the war.
 
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