Wait a minute, you took my quote but ignored the preceeding one:
Which you then illustrated with an example that "we are not even close to", are you seriously looking for an exact one to one match between various faiths in the degree of commercialized tat?
I only ask as that would be a ridiculous standard to try and set, the point you were making was quite clear, that people can't make money with commercialized products that use religion as a tool if that religion is Islam. The problem is that simply isn't true.
Now would you be so kind as to actually answer the questions around why you seem to think that commercial decisions by supermarkets over what they stock is persecution?
Yes there are centres of faith, but no homeland. The lobby groups are more toothless, hence the relative silence in comparison to "hate crimes" against the other 2 discussed.
The Vatican is toothless? Having a default religious lock-out in the Lords is toothless? The Vatican and the CofE are silent?
Are you seriously unaware enough to not know that US Christian pressure groups and the money they have are the reason why various Southern African nations came close to implementing the death penalty for LGBT groups last year?
And I'm sure this is going to be removed in years to come - this is the mark of a secular country. What it doesn't prove however is that Christianity isn't under persecution. Indeed we're talking about removing a tradition of our country instead of still addressing the title of the thread..
No we are talking about a lobby group that has direct access to the law making process within the UK by default, its not simply a tradition (unless you are unaware of how legislation gets passed in the UK), why exactly do you think its taken so long to get gay marriage through in the UK?
So far the example of overt Christian persecution you have proivided is that supermarkets can't be forced by the church to sell the churches own Easter eggs!
On the other hand they have automatic involvement in the UK's law making process, direct daily and weekly media access and are the state religion. All of which no other religion in the country has.
I'm not sure. We've seen The Guardian's awful articles about Trojan Horse, the Rotherham sex scandal and the obvious "Charlie Hebdo was an attack on Islam too" pieces.
During this same period we also couldn't go a few hours without a story highlighting the rising anti-semitism across Europe in The Times.
And if these news groups had not also ran significant pieces on the Christian persecution that is occuring around the world you might have a point, but they did.
It's all sides. I'm not sure how big the Chapel Hill shootings were around you but in my area there was an awareness campaign, usually under the banner 'Muslim Lives Matter'. The Guardian themselves showed ridiculous coverage for a murder thousands of miles away (search on their page for "Chapel Hill" and count the articles) and even went ahead with this piece:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/13/muslim-doctor-prejudice-chapel-hill
All of this over what transpired to be a parking dispute.
Has the investigation on that one concluded and the court reached a verdict that provided full details on the evidence and cause or are you simply speculating?
As unless you have access to the investigation you are also engaging in the exact same level of speculation that you are complaining others are.
Sure, I am now advised to communicate via email in case either progresses so I can send you redacted copies if you want via PM. This is my life now living, working and studying where I do.
So you acknowledge that you are posting wide reaching claims that you are totally unable to verfiy and that the nature of those claims covers ongoing investigations and information that quite clearly should not be shared publicly.
Yet you have been asked politely not to do this, ignored the polite requests and were then told not to do it again....
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/islam-whats-your-view-on-it.263208/page-76#post-10591492
....and yet you have once again done so. As such you leave no option but a formal warning, continue to do this and it will result in your membership ending.
With the way arguments have been going recently can you dispute that.
Let's play a game:
1400 Muslim girls are revealed to have been trafficked and abused for years by a group of white men. They repeatedly went to the authorities only to be told that they were lying and to stop dressing in such and such a manner. Community workers were silenced and the council was complicit in covering up the scandal to stop white men going to jail.
3 girls leave the country to join the war in Ukraine. They sympathise with Putin and hate the West.
Would you think the reaction from the Left wouldn't be influenced by who the victims are?
Would that result be from the whole of the left? A significant majority?
No.
As such you countered a generalization with a generalization and then attempted to rationalize that with a generalization.
Either stop generalizing yourself or stop complaining about generalizations.
It was probably the most relevant change in my personal life. I'm not sure if you respect me or not though. Because it's a fact I don't care about what I previous believed because it was wrong and it's nonsense. I have no problems admitting I was wrong. And I had to post it in the God thread because I was arguing for God before.
