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Ovals VS Road Courses
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Joey D
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If PD put that in the game I'd pretty much be completely content with doing various autocross tracks in small, cheap, compact cars. And like a n00b I've gone off topic.
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Exactly where have I been trying to push Ovals on people? I have been wanting this thread to be closed due to the amount of F1 vs. Nascar arguments that are provoked every time. Find me a post where I did that otherwise you're accusing me of something I never did, which is also pushing something on someone. This is exactly why I hate these kinds of threads:tdown:
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- You want what for it!?
Because not everyone likes driving around in circles. The general public and casual gamers buy GT because it is GT and that means the worlds best racing cars, sportscars and supercars on tracks from all over the world each proposing a totally different challenge. Not just a slighty different corner to turn left around.
In short, because it's boring.
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Again, another damn "Driving around in circles" response. To hell with this, I'm out of this thread. All I hear is answers with no logical explanation other then that or the overused "it requires no skill" answer, which still can't be and hasn't been proven. I'm done here as apparently I'm accused of pushing something on someone else and I'm reading alot of biased moronic responses from selfish people.
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- Ferrari_Tifoso, GTP_Ferrari_Fan
I have 0% interest in racing in ovals. Don't care about learning the skills involved in it, I only care about improving my skills in road racing. As long as PD doesn't force us to play the Nascar/ovals part of the game then I don't really care how many there are.
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So... What exactly are you getting at?
Both the IRL and Nascar are world class series and the highest tiers of motorsport in their class. So basically, they fit right in to your definition. So I don't see the problem.
Not to mention oval racing is a totally different challenge, another thing you were just talking about.
Well, too bad it's not GT5:Ferrari Tifoso Edition. Seriously guys? No one is forcing you to do anything, you have the option to race or not.
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He said he didn't care how many ovals there will be... not that he doesn't want any at all.
One problem is, GT being a "general" racing game, out of the people who are going to be buying it, very few wont enjoy road racing, a few might not enjoy rally racing and quite a few wont enjoy oval racing.
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Oh bloody hell I hope not, I remember the time when I had to drive round the test course for about an hour, can't remember the exact number of laps in GT3.
Had a great little work around with the TOYOTA GT1, found one of my daughters hair bands wrapped it round the throttle toggle at full throttle and aimed the car so it just slimmed the armco and went for a nice kip and when I came back the race was done!
One other thing is why do race events or even American football say 'World Series' when the only teams are from that country very strange indeed. I suppose the rest of the world is crap at it!
"closes hatch of tank and retreats"
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- DrTrouserPlank
It's very much the same with all American sport, baseball, basketball, american football, NASCAR, Ice hockey; no one outside American really give two hoots about any of it, and it's really only the Americans who play these sports on any scale. Culturally everyone is aware that they exist, but that's about the extent of it.
Specifically in relation to GT5, NASCAR is purely in there to woo the American audience; nice for them. Hopefully it is not forced upon everyone else though by being included in the career of the game.
My interest in real-life motorsport is pretty varied, but NASCAR barely qualifies as motorsport in my book. It is motorsport by definition; that is about it.
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Yeah, but there will always be races people won't like, personally in GT4 I hated any race at the Grand Canyon, the MX-5 endurance race was epically tedious, and I could have killed somebody over some of the driving missions.
Everyone has tracks they like and dislike, whether they are Oval or Road configuration, but you have to put up with them, that's just the nature of the game.
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- Shin_Roh
I've never really been into oval circuits, or NASCAR, but I have to admit, the prospect of blasting round in a pack of 16 drivers doing 200mph sounds rather intense and very exciting. Indy car will be on a whole other level too! Same conditions, 240mph!!!!! and open wheels to have ripped from their axles at any moment. Concentration and drama will be a sure thing!
Joey D
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This post right here:
You don't understand why people want more road courses than others, since this thread is about ovals vs. road course then obviously you are in favour of having more ovals or at least an equal number of them. A lot of people find ovals to be boring and road courses to be fun, so this is why they think there should be more road courses then ovals.
And if you hate these threads so much why keep posting in them?
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Same here. I'm too tired of this crap being throwed against ovals. People are more than likely basing their experience in ovals on a 6 cars race in GT4, so their experience is nothing. One way or another, those who claim themselves to not be noob players will have to complete the game, or at least they should if they say they are so hardcore, so I will be laughing my 🤬 off when they race in the ovals they hate so much.
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I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting more ovals than road circuits, or even equal amounts, but there should be a representative selection of ovals, as - contrary to popular belief - they do differ. A token selection to pay lip service to the NASCAR license is a little half arsed. It would be like announcing the Porsche License.. .but then just including the Panamera and the Cayenne?
Quality racing is going to be determined by the AI/online competitors and the Physics... not by the circuit itself.
I find F1 almost more boring than NASCAR to watch. The only racing that keeps my interest is wrc, motogp and touring cars. I hate any racing with pitstops, I like to see the drivers going flat out and not trying to abuse some ridiculous loophole in the rules, or holding off to save fuel or any of that nonsense. One tank of fuel, one set of tyres and flat out to the finish line, thats how I think racing should be.
But anyway I do find it interesting, that there are people that think there should be as many oval tracks, as road tracks in GT and can't understand why people disagree. I never would have thought.
But anyway I do find it interesting, that there are people that think there should be as many oval tracks, as road tracks in GT and can't understand why people disagree. I never would have thought.
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edit, hit post accidently
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What I'd like to see...
More 1/4 mile Drag Strips than road courses....
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More 1/4 mile Drag Strips than road courses....
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IsmokeGT
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I think this statement is true in many ways. MotoGP is by far my favorite sport to watch, followed by AMA SX/MX (motorcycles and ATV's), and third would probably be Monster Trucks.
Although, MotoGP races that start wet, and progressively dry as the race goes makes for some of the most exciting races due to them switching bikes, not just tires, and the anxious feeling of who switched bikes at the best time is irreplaceable. But I agree most races should just be driver vs. driver until the end of the race, or as little teamwork as possible. When guys in NASCAR need new tires, they should have to switch cars like they switch bikes in MotoGP
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NASCAR is pretty much a spec series that is tailored for the domestic market & doesn't translate well outside of the US, much in the same way that Super GT is very much tailored to the Japanese market. VLN is the same way in Germany. They are just not marketable to other countries other than the one they were designed for.
BTW, you're wrong about baseball (huge in Latin America & Japan), basketball (huge in China & other countries), and hockey (Canada and other European countries).
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Freeman_Cruz
Theres nothing in the world like Indianapolis, 3-wide starts, 4 lap qualifying average insterad of just one lap.
The Triple Crown of Motorsports:
- Indianapolis 500
- Formula 1 Title/Monaco GP win
- 24 Hours of Le Mans
The Triple Crown of Endurance Rracing
- 24 Hours of Le Mans
- 24 hours of Daytona
- 12 hours of Sebring
Gran Turismo tracks from that list:
- Indianapolis
- Daytona
- Monaco
Note the absence of Spa, Nurburgring, etc. The ring is a great testing track
Tell me again who won the 24 hours of Nurburgring last year? I watched the majority of the race and couldnt tell you! Fact is nobody cares. Who won Suzuka GP last year? Silverstone GP? Vettel won them both I beleive, but is that anything to brag about? If he won Indy and Monaco in the same year people would be talking.
As for Daytona being unknown, if it indeed is, that's Europe and Japan's fault. I hear so much about how America doesnt get coverage of worldwide motorsports, complaints about how they get force fed NASCAR and nothing else, yet with any Satellite here you get SPEEDTV which gives you complete coverage of the Formula 1 season, every practice, qualifying and race session, 16+ hours coverage of Le mans, 16+ hours coverage of the daytona 24 hours, complete coverage of the Daytona 500, complete coverage of the Indy 500, basicly every major motorsport gets covered.
Americans know who wins Formula 1, who wins Le Mans, but Europeans dont know who wins Daytona or Indy? That's their problem. Has nothing to do with the prestige of the event.
ardius
F1 does have the best qualifying format along with other road racing, however nothing compares to the qualifying at Indianpolis. Your not simply just jostling for position, rather whether you make the field or not is on the line
Ferrari_Tifoso
I'll put that in my words
I have 0% interest in racing in rally racing. Don't care about learning the skills involved in it, I only care about improving my skills in road racing and oval racing. PD will force us to play the WRC/rallying as part of the game in order to get 100% completion.
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American football is also now having 1-2 games being played in London, and NASCAR has raced in a total of 4 countries, so I don't see your argument.
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USA + London = world ?
Don't make a fool of yourself.
Don't make a fool of yourself.
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I never said "world", the NFL has sold out every game they have played in London so far, I am just saying how his argument of "Nobody in the rest of the world cares" doesn't hold true.
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EDIT: nevermind, looked it up online.
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Well that's cheap. He specifically stated that the prestige of a track is linked to the region. I'm sorry but over here no one cares about Indy or Daytona. Maybe Indy when it was on the F1 calender, but definately not Daytona. Why would we? They're run in a competition that has nothing to do with our region. Regular circuits on the F1 calender have much bigger status over here, like Silverstone, Monaco, Suzuka, Monza and naturally Spa-Francorchamps which is legendary over here.
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