PAL UPDATE: GARAGE IN 2P RACES + ALL 12 NEW PAL CARS + NEW TECH DATA + old updates

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This is very very interesting news, The C6 Seems like More of a possibility so thats nice, maybe a few more mustangs too!

I guess we'll just have to wait to see on new info, I'd think they'd add a few more muscle cars since It'd be alright for the American Release.

(I really dont know why they didnt add some of the Muscle cars from GT2 like the GTX)

Good start though PD Keep it up, Shock us all please! :) 👍
 
Hmmmm, I wonder if this means we could see the Ariel Atom and Morgan Aero 8 Race Car and whatnot too...That would certainly be nice.

I bet we'll get exactly nothing for the american version though, just because SCEA sucks. =/
 
It would be nice that when GT4 was online, we can download extra cars and tracks.

What also could be cool is to download the extra cars and tracks on the usb stick. Its a pitty that PS2 hard disk never came out.
 
Liquid Li0n
It would be nice that when GT4 was online, we can download extra cars and tracks.

What also could be cool is to download the extra cars and tracks on the usb stick. Its a pitty that PS2 hard disk never came out.

never came out? -_-;
 
Sven
Hmmmm, I wonder if this means we could see the Ariel Atom and Morgan Aero 8 Race Car and whatnot too...That would certainly be nice.

I bet we'll get exactly nothing for the american version though, just because SCEA sucks. =/
Wasn't there footage of one of those when PD were doing one of their test days?
 
silvergt
can it be that PD have all the cars locke d up in their database and can decide which region gets which? that makes me think, imagine when the online version comes out, we may be able to download ferrari's and lamborghini's, cos as u may know, or not,
a)EA held the licences for those cars till Dec2004 when it run out, so now PD can net a deal to feature them, and
b) i saw the PD crew testing some ferrari's in the GT4 Prolugue Bonus DVD, which made me wonder.
may the learned enlighten us...

Jesus, how many people belive this rumour? it's been put down a number of times because of the FACTS out there.. EA does NOT hold exclusive rights to those licenses, just look at the games out there...

is F355 challenge an EA game?
is Outrun 2 an EA game?
is Forza Motorsport an EA game?

so much for your theory.
 
I think the Morgan is going to be in the game.

About the jeremy clarkson's headchanging Ariël Atom I don't know but I hope so because that car is awesome!
 
Great News about the Auto Union Streamliner.

In the last Months several Grand Prix Cars of this era appeared in "Final :dopey: " Car Lists for GT4 and this seems to be the first one to be confirmed.

But what about the most beautiful Grand Prix Car ever ? The W 196 Monoposto and for sure the W 196 Streamliner ?

They just have to be in the game !

Oh, and by the way: Another fascinating car of the early Grand Prix Era:

The BRM 1,5 Liter 16 Cylinder.

Unbelievable Sound out of only 1,5 Liter and about 580 HP !

http://www.billzilla.org/BRM-pushstart.mp3
http://www.billzilla.org/BRM-fulltrack.mp3
http://www.billzilla.org/BRM-incar.mp3

I´ve already heard a lot of Racing Cars, but never heard something like this before !

Word !!!
 
amar212
As I know, this particular model with covered wheels was a "Streamline" model of "Type C" racing car, one without the covers and with some changes in overall looks.

Covers were there for aerodynamic purposes, because high-powered versions of this car were used for breaking speed-records on roads, which was very big thing in Germany just before WWII breaked loose.

With Auto Union Type C Streamline, Bernd Rosemayer established world record in 1937., by going 406 km/h (252 mp/h) on the open road. He died in horrific accident year later, while trying to make a new record with 1938. Auto Union's Streamline.

The only competitor for this car was Mercedes-Benz's W125 Streamline, the fastest car on the road ever.

"....Rudolf Caracciola's record of 429 km/h (268.7mph) over the flying kilometre on 28th January 1938, remains the fastest ever officially timed speed on a public road. This record breaking run was made on the Autobahn near Frankfurt, where onlookers were rattled by the brutal boom of the side spewing exhaust stacks as the silver car hurtled past..." (I just love this quote:). Hope that we'll hear those exhaust in the same way in the game...).

The specs for those cars were astonishing:

Auto Union:

about 6000 ccm
more then 600 HP
about 1000 kg

Mercedes-Benz:

5577 ccm
736 HP
1185 kg (curb weight)

Also notice that "normal" racing cars of that time had an average power of 550 HP, and that Rosemayer was one of the rare - if not the only one - able to drive racing version of Type C up to 380 km/h on straights of Nordschleife.


In addition to this ...

Here is a link with a lot info about Rosemeyer's accident during that record attempt: http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/zana.htm

I've seen in other replys a lot of mentioning of autobahn race track. Well in 1930s that race track was called AVUS and was near berlin. Basically two 7km lanes of autobahn with 180° corners on either side - sudkehre (south corner) was normal and nordkehre (north corner) was oval at about 40 degrees. It was taken at about 200km/h! link for track: http://8w.forix.com/avus.html

A lot of info about that time of racing and pictures can be found on that link http://8w.forix.com/index.html. Just take a look.

I love that era of racing, the great fight between sliver arrows (mercedes) and sliver fish (auto union) were legendary. And if you have a chance - go to Ingolstadt Audi Museum, where two cars are on display. Typ C for hillclimbing (double rear wheels) and Typ C/D Stromlinie. They are marvellous to look at. Also reccomended is the visit to Stuttgart in Mercedes Museum, where the silver arrows can bee seen along with that Mercedes Stromlinie wagen and a special never-been-racing car, which is hanged on the wall(!!!), about 8 metres long (I'm talking by memory, so don't grab me for numbers), with estimad top speed 650km/h and an engine from airplane (40.000cc, V shape, upside!) with few thousand HP. Sadly (the WWII began) the car never took out to the tracks ...

I've been in both museums and it was undescribable experience.
 
As much as I know people like classic race cars, I hope theres more 'normal' european cars included. :nervous:
 
T5-R
As much as I know people like classic race cars, I hope theres more 'normal' european cars included. :nervous:

Finally someone that agrees with me. The most of the gamers will like the cars from the street or their dream cars from japan us or europe.

But I must admit that its nice that PD includes some historical racers and I've listened to the engine sound mp3s and they sound nice but I more like a modern sports car's engine.

But no offense guys, that's my opinion and its a smart move from PD to put as many as different kinds of cars in it so many people from all ages will buy it. Maybe my grandfather would like to drive the cars he saw in his time on the roads and the racetracks.:)
 
Wow, maybe we'll get lucky and GT4 will actually be about 'Automobile History' and not just 'Japanese Automobile History'! :)

*fingers crossed*
 
Sven
Hmmmm, I wonder if this means we could see the Ariel Atom and Morgan Aero 8 Race Car and whatnot too...That would certainly be nice.
=/

I would give up 200 cars just to have Morgans in the game. If GT4 is supposed to be about the history of cars how could they not have the oldest family owned car company - who still hand-builds their cars out of an ash frame using 1950's technology, and yet are still competitive.
 
I think I saw, either here or somewhere else, a shot of a Jeep Cherokee in the game, could be another one added in?
 
SaintKamus
Jesus, how many people belive this rumour? it's been put down a number of times because of the FACTS out there.. EA does NOT hold exclusive rights to those licenses, just look at the games out there...

is F355 challenge an EA game?
is Outrun 2 an EA game?
is Forza Motorsport an EA game?

so much for your theory.
hey. you're right. so if those games can get ferrari and porsche and whatnot, then why can't gran turismo, huh??
 
oh and i asked yesternday for a link to the scee press release talked about on the first post and no-one has delivered it. could we have it please?
 
well, amar is a respective member, he got out the news about the BMW demo and made some great movies and pics. I'm sure what he says is true.
 
Apollo
I think I saw, either here or somewhere else, a shot of a Jeep Cherokee in the game, could be another one added in?

Let's hope so. It's a pitty they didn't put more jeeps and other SUV's in it.
This SUV's for example.
S.U.V.:
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BMW X5 Le Mans;
Bowler Wildcat;
Land Rover Freelander Rally Edition;
Mercedes-Benz G55 AMG;
Range Rover Overfinch 580s;
VW Touareg & Touareg Dakar Edition.



P.S.: Can you show us the picture?
 
vipersan
well it is right, that RUF is as a tuner, since they are in base a tuner. They use Porsche and modify it. Very heavily :).

tuners make parts. RUF is more or less an individual manufacturer.

RUF only usses a chassis, then builds from there. They do, however, tune stock porches for customers...which is interesting...think about this...and I'm not excited, I could care less, but it's a theory.

They will not put RUF in the tuner village alone to sell their cars, however I think there may be another reason (highly HIGHLY unreasonable and just a myth of a though, lol)

Porsche in the game? RUF as the tuner? hmmm....I don't think so, but it's possible I suppose.

but RUF is not a TUNER...their cars even have their own VIN numbers because they differ so much from porsche...only the chassis is the same.

I dunno why they'd put it in the tuner village though...since it technically makes it's own standalone cars....so it should be in it's own dealership...it's and odd thought
 
You could use some Ruf parts on other cars like the old VW Beetle.
 
@Tha_con: all arguments are correct! 👍 RUF belongs to the manufacturers!

live4speed
You could use some Ruf parts on other cars like the old VW Beetle.

Cool, if they also fit into the Karmann Ghia, my dream will come true^^
 
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