PENALTY SYSTEM IS STILL A PIECE OF ****!!!

[Haitauer]

Im slowly starting to enjoy (get over) the penalty system. Reason is that after a drop from SR99 to SR10 and DR reset I stopped pushing it in races. Only use opportunity for overtaking if its clear and let faster/dirty pass you before turns. The time to reclaim that position comes sooner or later. This way i find my self finishing steadily at 2nd to 5th. Good for dr and sr. Also fight for the position only if its really possible to keep it and not loose the draft battle at next straight. Your better of drafting behind - saving fuel and waiting for an opportunity.

Edit.
Forgot the funny part. Push one to wall you get usually 3sec penalty - hit the wall on your own and get 5sec penalty on top of the time already lost in contact and missed line.

I see why this is as it is. Thank you goes to all you who always try to exploit walls for faster lap time. Rest of us suffer the penalties being off balace because of you.

 

[Chiefy17]

Hit up the arse going through the dipper...3 second penalty. Great system

 

[Haitauer]

Hit up the arse going through the dipper...3 second penalty. Great system

Yes - penalties for slowing down before a turn to get fast exit being judged as brake checking are far too sensitive

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Im slowly starting to enjoy (get over) the penalty system. Reason is that after a drop from SR99 to SR10 and DR reset I stopped pushing it in races. Only use opportunity for overtaking if its clear and let faster/dirty pass you before turns. The time to reclaim that position comes sooner or later. This way i find my self finishing steadily at 2nd to 5th. Good for dr and sr. Also fight for the position only if its really possible to keep it and not loose the draft battle at next straight. Your better of drafting behind - saving fuel and waiting for an opportunity.

Edit.
Forgot the funny part. Push one to wall you get usually 3sec penalty - hit the wall on your own and get 5sec penalty on top of the time already lost in contact and missed line.

I see why this is as it is. Thank you goes to all you who always try to exploit walls for faster lap time. Rest of us suffer the penalties being off balace because of you.

You're doing it wrong, you hit someone from behind then the wall to give them 3 sec penalty and get away free
Brake check then hit the wall works too.
Heck you can even hit the wall first then hit someone to give them a penalty.

Anyway it's fine to have severe penalties for wall hits as it's hard to avoid people that 'save' dives by using the walls or simply push it a bit too far and instantly turn into a brake check obstacle. It's not sensitive enough imo. On Bathurst walls get used all the time which rarely results in a penalty. It does create a lot of opportunities for accidents.

The off balance thing is annoying though as it's better to hit someone than to voluntarily run off road or into a wall as the etiquette video suggests you should do to avoid accidents.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

What's the most penalties anyone has seen a driver incur in game out of interest?

I had to double check I wasn't seeing things yesterday but had a BMW in the Tokyo Expressway race who had 60.0 seconds of penalties counting upwards before he was disconnected from the lobby so I would love to know how much carnage had been caused to amass that amount as the
most I've had on the Expressway is about 30 seconds...

 

[George Jakob]

What's the most penalties anyone has seen a driver incur in game out of interest?

I had to double check I wasn't seeing things yesterday but had a BMW in the Tokyo Expressway race who had 60.0 seconds of penalties counting upwards before he was disconnected from the lobby so I would love to know how much carnage had been caused to amass that amount as the
most I've had on the Expressway is about 30 seconds...

1min + it was at monza first turn (obviously) back when they used this weird system serve it instantly or the penalty will rise more & more until you do it.

 

[Haitauer]

The off balance thing is annoying though as it's better to hit someone than to voluntarily run off road or into a wall as the etiquette video suggests you should do to avoid accidents.

Wow.. Didnt even realize that. They teach you one thing and then penalize it. I think its stupid to give penalty from going wide to grass as you lose time anyways.. It should be just a reduction in DR when you drive off the track.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yes - penalties for slowing down before a turn to get fast exit being judged as brake checking are far too sensitive

This. I have no idea why but in this game my corner entry is very, very slow, i just cannot turn in like others do but my lap times are fine as my exits make up for it. I get a tap from behind, no harm no0 foul and I get a time penalty. Like what??

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

What's the most penalties anyone has seen a driver incur in game out of interest?

I had to double check I wasn't seeing things yesterday but had a BMW in the Tokyo Expressway race who had 60.0 seconds of penalties counting upwards before he was disconnected from the lobby so I would love to know how much carnage had been caused to amass that amount as the
most I've had on the Expressway is about 30 seconds...

Also saw a Pug driver on Tokyo last night running around with 57 seconds of penalties. This was on lap 3 alone!!!!

Just did a Race A this morning, and the pole sitter, with a 1:14:XXX lap was just blatantly cheating their way through the race by cutting the chicane and Ascari. In the end, a cheat didn't prosper as they finished 2nd, but look at the fastest lap, AND they ended up with blue ratings at the end of the race.

I got rear ended once going into the chicane, rest of the race was clean and my SR didn't move.

PD have to sort themselves out!!!

 

[Silver_Wolf]

PD have to sort themselves out!!!

Tell me about it! Just lost 10 SR points on Race A thanks to one collision in the chicane but at least nobody was cutting
corners in my race that I could see.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Also saw a Pug driver on Tokyo last night running around with 57 seconds of penalties. This was on lap 3 alone!!!!

Just did a Race A this morning, and the pole sitter, with a 1:14:XXX lap was just blatantly cheating their way through the race by cutting the chicane and Ascari. In the end, a cheat didn't prosper as they finished 2nd, but look at the fastest lap, AND they ended up with blue ratings at the end of the race.

I got rear ended once going into the chicane, rest of the race was clean and my SR didn't move.

PD have to sort themselves out!!!

At least there is no trophy for amount of fastest laps yet it's ridiculous you can set a fastest lap with penalty time on the clock or by bouncing off walls / other cars. Lap times should be invalidated when you incur any penalty or SR Down, both in race and during qualifying.

 

[gapper59]

Just for you to acknowledge... every time they do that... it gets worse a little bit more... that is so far the followed rule...

That's for sure. All we could do is pray to the game gods that they finally get it right, instead of making it worse.

Just wondering when their next attempt to fix it might be.

 

[Sean Renon]

I got a .506 penalty for having a sliver of my wheel touch (I'm assuming) the grass on the last corner of Dragon Trail, on the last lap - which ruined my chances at passing first who had to serve a 2.7 sec penalty.

I'm liking the stricter track limits, but I really think there should be a 3 strike system for very minor things like that, I ran a tiny bit wide on the S bends in the same race and was hit with a .8 second penalty. Seems a little over the top, especially since running wide very rarely grants you an advantage - and we never see penalties (in real life racing) being given for cars running wide on exit unless they're abusing the track.

 

[Chiefy17]

Yes - penalties for slowing down before a turn to get fast exit being judged as brake checking are far too sensitive

I was just taking it normal though. I was in the megane ( dont be hatin ) which is slower through there than the gtr so they had way more speed and just tapped me on the actual dip part when i was turning left crazy

 

[Draggon]

In the event that this weekend's update is to fix this problem before next week's races, I hope PD has not pushed the new content out before it's ready.

Nah, PD would never do that

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

It'll be interesting to see if they leave the penalty system alone as they go into their next invitational event. As we've seen in the past, the drivers will push the penalty system to the limit and if they do that during the big races it'll make the game look quite ridiculous.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

It'll be interesting to see if they leave the penalty system alone as they go into their next invitational event. As we've seen in the past, the drivers will push the penalty system to the limit and if they do that during the big races it'll make the game look quite ridiculous.

The last World Tour Maggiore was on the track. Apparently, I think this came from @mthomas_95, they all had a gentleman's agreement to not abuse the track limits on T4, as well as trying to serve the penalty as soon as possible

Don't worry, these guys are not your average dingaling driver in Sport mode

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

The last World Tour Maggiore was on the track. Apparently, I think this came from @mthomas_95, they all had a gentleman's agreement to not abuse the track limits on T4, as well as trying to serve the penalty as soon as possible

Don't worry, these guys are not your average dingaling driver in Sport mode

Part of me wishes that one of them would go rogue just to make the point that the game is broken.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Part of me wishes that one of them would go rogue just to make the point that the game is broken.

Bad PR is still PR, as they say... 💡

 

[Voodoovaj]

Yet, at Bathurst, the tight left in the mountain section will give you a huge "track cut" penalty. I don't understand. I can tap the wall up there and still be on track, but if I get a little too close to that section of wall, I'm cutting. So inconsistent and frustrating.

 

[Boedefeld]

Oh, such a fair penalty system. Nothing wrong with the game, it’s the users fault most of the time.

And no, it’s not me

Part of me wishes that one of them would go rogue just to make the point that the game is broken.

Every sane person knows this game is broken and any real sim racer won’t even go so far as look in the direction of this game. They stick to iRacing, rFactor, AC or ACC next year

 

[Suntek]

I fail to realize how is it allowed to still be in race if managing to accumulate 50,5s of penalties in one lap??
Did race C, a guy in front creates carnage from start, pinball, you name it.I catch up, he's on hefty 50s after 1/2 lap.
Proceeds to race with it, slamming g people off without penalty.
I manage to cleanly pass him at T1, just for him to proceed to to draft bump me entire lap without intention of passing.
I get orange sr EVERY single time he touched me, 13s in total.

I pit, he pits and gets out in front of me, just this time his 50s from few seconds ago is now 4s and he's ahead.

I the end he finishes 5th I think with 11s penalty, I finish 10th with sr rank drop thanks to him.

What the heck..

 

[DonZmeuheu]

The Penalty system in GTS is the biggest joke ever. I fall in only a few races from Sr. S to Sr. B. Every time somebody divebomb me, I got Sr. Down what a joke. After I realized that, I also divebombed a guy who stressed me before and guess what Sr. Is going up. So that means when you drive clean your safety rating fall and when you drive like a complete a..hole your safety rating is going up. I'm done with GTS...that makes no fun anymore.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I fail to realize how is it allowed to still be in race if managing to accumulate 50,5s of penalties in one lap??
Did race C, a guy in front creates carnage from start, pinball, you name it.I catch up, he's on hefty 50s after 1/2 lap.
Proceeds to race with it, slamming g people off without penalty.
I manage to cleanly pass him at T1, just for him to proceed to to draft bump me entire lap without intention of passing.
I get orange sr EVERY single time he touched me, 13s in total.

I pit, he pits and gets out in front of me, just this time his 50s from few seconds ago is now 4s and he's ahead.

I the end he finishes 5th I think with 11s penalty, I finish 10th with sr rank drop thanks to him.

What the heck..

Reminds me of the trolls on BMB last week. Occasionally you had a stunt driver doing donuts and driving backwards. Sure, they are ghosted, yet the game puts up a yellow flag for them. Pass anyone when that ghost clown is near and you get a penalty. They get the DQ timer for driving backwards yet he would drive forward for a little bit to clear it then do it again. One race such a clown was there for 8 laps keeping the yellow flag going most of the race.

I have been sticking to race C this week. I love Bathurst yet one car ramming you means a red rating in a daily B. I only did 3 races there, managed to escape with only a few minor SR downs from bumps from behind, yet in the third I got a penalty from someone hitting the wall then me. Instant 11 SR down for one incident. Being stuck in SR.C on BMB wasn't so bad, yet on a narrow winding track I do not want to end up with people that ping pong between the walls all the time. On race C you at least get a chance to recover SR when someone starts draft bumping or makes a mess in T1. In a B race any possible SR gain is gone after a few bumps from behind.

And indeed T1 on Tokyo is bad. The car in front getting SR down for getting bumped is as stupid as the last car to touch a car going off-road / into a wall getting the penalty. Playing snooker in T1, the instigator usually goes free as the car he punted will hit another car.

What you can try when someone draft bumps you, is touch the wall right after he bumps. That usually gives them a penalty and you don't get the SR Down. It sucks to lose speed that way, better than dropping to SR.B.

 

[Voodoovaj]

I have been sticking to race C this week.

Race A is killing me at the chicane. I even had a 3 second penalty for avoiding all the accidents, yet one spinner taps my right door and I get dinged for it.

In Race C, someone knocked a barrel onto the track, I hit it, 5 (FIVE) seconds penalty...again, I hit the barrel that was on track, like the middle of the track, not a car, or a barrel off track!

And I am ESPECIALLY hating on the dumb-dumbs trying to jam their car into the space between you and the wall on the first turn in Race C. If you can draft past me or come along side in the braking area, fine, have the corner, but when you are behind the guy in front, lifting off the brakes to try and shoehorn into that space serves no one any good.

Oh and btw @Sven Jurgens , I just got that stupid yellow flag penalty on the first lap when someone tagged the wall...what the actual F does PD expect people to do in these cases??? Why is this yellow flag penalty still in the game?? It's the most pointless, useless, penalty I can imagine. So ya, a dumb yellow flag penalty, followed by someone else's dumb move, after a race with a dumb barrel penalty, and my SR has been duly tanked.

Fantastic job to whomever is dealing with this.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I'll drag this thread back to the front page. Would the next update fix the ridiculous SR Downs or worse for getting tapped from behind?

This just cost me 8 SR on Brand's hatch. Apparently driving in a straight defensive line is really bad!

Did he expect me to change lines, plenty of room on the outside, no room left before the corner to start swerving.

Next race I get tapped from behind twice for 2 SR Downs, and in lap 2 a car is trying to draft overtake me on the inside to the Hawthorn bend. However traffic ahead is bumping each other and a car that just received a penalty is slow on the outside, So now I'm suddenly in the middle passing the slow car on the outside with a car half a length behind on my inside. The inside car wants more room for the corner and bumps me into the car on my outside that goes off road. I get 4 sec penalty.... Now I'm down to SR 80 (from 99) after 2 races.

 

[meck_rb7]

I'll drag this thread back to the front page. Would the next update fix the ridiculous SR Downs or worse for getting tapped from behind?

This just cost me 8 SR on Brand's hatch. Apparently driving in a straight defensive line is really bad!

Did he expect me to change lines, plenty of room on the outside, no room left before the corner to start swerving.

Next race I get tapped from behind twice for 2 SR Downs, and in lap 2 a car is trying to draft overtake me on the inside to the Hawthorn bend. However traffic ahead is bumping each other and a car that just received a penalty is slow on the outside, So now I'm suddenly in the middle passing the slow car on the outside with a car half a length behind on my inside. The inside car wants more room for the corner and bumps me into the car on my outside that goes off road. I get 4 sec penalty.... Now I'm down to SR 80 (from 99) after 2 races.

I think i'll wait untill the update drops before i'm doing daily's.. uhm... weekly's again.. I hope they'll change it for the better...

 

[rono_thomas]

Did he expect me to change lines, plenty of room on the outside, no room left before the corner to start swerving.

Youv’ve left nearly a cars gap on your inside, need to shut the door firmer, joe blogs sport mode racer, will always make the dumb moves.

 

[Suntek]

Youv’ve left nearly a cars gap on your inside, need to shut the door firmer, joe blogs sport mode racer, will always make the dumb moves.

Well he shut the door for the wiseguy in the gif and look how that ended up
I think as it is now, you either shut the door of perfect line and get orange sr, or leave it open and get punted for penalty and orange sr.
It's like pick a hammer you wanna get slammed with lol.

 

[rono_thomas]

Well he shut the door for the wiseguy in the gif and look how that ended up

I was commenting on the gif The inside line is open, in the sense that its not fully shut.